Project Management

[jerphisch]

I start in a week. I assume I can go on hour-long crying jags and no one will mind, right?

I checked the self-reported base salaries for IT Project Managers with 6-14 years experience on LinkedIn and found the highest paying markets. The medians seem very low to me -- I am starting at 160.

 1. 100.0 SF
2. 90.0 DC
3. 88.6 Houston
4. 86.0 Seattle
5. 85.1 NYC
6. 85.0 Boston
7. 81.0 Chicago
8. 80.2 LA
9. 80.1 RDU
10. 80.0 Denver

Yeah, that list seems wrong.

 

[LynahFan]

Problem is that “project manager” is an ill-defined term. That salary data might include GED holders overseeing a 10-person construction site.

 

[dxmnkd316]

That list is low. That's closer to entry or maybe like a PM II position.

 

[dxmnkd316]

FUCK a

 

[Kepler]

Buy me a drink first?

 

[dxmnkd316]

Well, crisis slightly averted. Not great. But not six weeks bad.

 

[Swansong]

You don't need to buy me a drink first.......

 

[aparch]

Bumping this thread from the depths it sank to because I'm interested in y'all's updates.

Problem is that “project manager” is an ill-defined term. That salary data might include GED holders overseeing a 10-person construction site.

Also, I could use a little good luck and good thoughts as my career towards Civil Engineer PM progresses.

To abbreviate a very long story: the department head got railroaded by management, there's zero direction within the entire company, the accounting staff has quit entirely twice, our subconsulltants haven't been paid in six months, and a fairly large state project has so many problems the interim department head hasn't even touched on. Oh, and one of the big state jobs that the owner was patting himself on the back for being a shoe-in for us to win the CM services for, our company wasn't picked. And no one in our main office knows, they're still celebrating being "top of the potential list..."

.... so after *almost* 10 years at my company, I'm looking for a new employer (civil heavy highway) who actually has a fu**ing clue. The boss they forced out was the one guy who actually advocated for me to become a certified materials coordinator, since I don't have an engineering degree or PE (just a Construction Management degree), it adds value to my resume. He mentored a lot of us and built up one hell of a department before others in the company saw him as a threat (and they shouldn't have).

It does look like a small group of our team will be interviewed by the new place our former boss went to. (So many firms in the market asked to interview our former boss; none of them could believe that a) our boss was looking and b) that our company would be so stupid to get rid of him). So I hopefully can be a part of the new firm that's excited to have us.

It's a little scary time, not gonna lie. I'm nervously excited.

 

[Kepler]

It's a little scary time, not gonna lie. I'm nervously excited.

Getting a new job after 16 years was terrifying but the third best decision I ever made. You will feel so liberated, and the novelty and challenge will enrich your life.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Bumping this thread from the depths it sank to because I'm interested in y'all's updates.

Was just asked to join the core team for a new $100 million install for the next four or so years. Utterly terrifying to be responsible for $20-30M. Largest project so far was in the range of $8M on a $25M project, but this is a different class of project altogether. Only a handful of these in the corp at any time considering it's about 5% of our entire capital spend in a year (obviously spread out over four years, so in the range of 1%/yr).


Echo Kepler's comments. You won't know until you try. WIsh you the best of luck in getting a new job and hope it works out. If it doesn't, there's a shit ton of jobs out there.

 

[Kepler]

Was just asked to join the core team for a new $100 million install for the next four or so years. Utterly terrifying to be responsible for $20-30M. Largest project so far was in the range of $8M on a $25M project, but this is a different class of project altogether. Only a handful of these in the corp at any time considering it's about 5% of our entire capital spend in a year (obviously spread out over four years, so in the range of 1%/yr).


Echo Kepler's comments. You won't know until you try. WIsh you the best of luck in getting a new job and hope it works out. If it doesn't, there's a **** ton of jobs out there.

Exactly. Plus, at the end of the day it's commerce. It means nothing. It's not a kid or a spouse or your college hockey team. It's just vapor.

 

[Swansong]

I, too, am looking around (internally). Since my hospital is being absorbed by a larger system, our IT infrastructure is being consolidated. In the short/medium term, there will be no reductions (my god we're bare bones staffed anyway) and in fact I've applied for four of the new manager-level positions opening up in my new service line. I don't have particularly high hopes to get one, but interviewing for a position you're qualified for is never bad.

What does that have to do with project management? Well, these new roles would be about half personnel management and half project management. I do a ton of project management now, so I figured that wouldn't be a bad fit. My current job (technically a team lead position) will be sort of reduced in scope to more of a "lead analyst" position, which is good and bad. Good because that is what it should be, and what it is at every single similarly-sized organization in the country and it would come with no salary change (I'm already towards the lower end of my scale). But bad because I kind of like the PM work and I like punching above my weight class. We'll see I suppose.

 

[anygreen]

I, too, am looking around (internally). Since my hospital is being absorbed by a larger system, our IT infrastructure is being consolidated. In the short/medium term, there will be no reductions (my god we're bare bones staffed anyway) and in fact I've applied for four of the new manager-level positions opening up in my new service line. I don't have particularly high hopes to get one, but interviewing for a position you're qualified for is never bad.

What does that have to do with project management? Well, these new roles would be about half personnel management and half project management. I do a ton of project management now, so I figured that wouldn't be a bad fit. My current job (technically a team lead position) will be sort of reduced in scope to more of a "lead analyst" position, which is good and bad. Good because that is what it should be, and what it is at every single similarly-sized organization in the country and it would come with no salary change (I'm already towards the lower end of my scale). But bad because I kind of like the PM work and I like punching above my weight class. We'll see I suppose.

Any updates on this one? Do you manage it well?
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