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POTUS Elect Trump II: We Are So Totally F%*#ed

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Welp. I guess that's why they were throwing the stretch passes...
 
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Slap Shot said:
I've listened to Cuban wax politics several times. Man is quite bright, well spoken and reasoned. Nothing like what you might expect from watching cheer on the Mavericks.
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I have to agree there. He may be a flamboyant d-bag at times, but he's smart and knows which way the wind blows.
 
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I'm sure the, "I didn't vote for him" contingent at USCHO can explain this away like they do everything else.

Donald Trump and the Tainted Presidency

Do not let this be buried in the pundits’ blathering: A hostile foreign power stole confidential correspondence from American citizens — this is no different than physically breaking into an American office and carting off boxes of written letters — and funneled that stolen material to a willing conspirator, Julian Assange. The foreign power then had its desired result achieved on our Election Day.

This was an act of war and our presidency was the spoil.

This is not to say that some of what was revealed about the Democrats in the hacked emails wasn’t disturbing. It was, although most of the emails simply showed the unappetizing process by which the sausage is made. What made the leaks feel fishy was the absolute asymmetry of the targeting — it was Democratic only.

On Friday, intelligence officials released a ****ing report on the Russian hacking that read: “We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump.”

On the same day, Trump was briefed on the hacking by intelligence officials, after which he released an incredulous statement claiming “there was absolutely no effect on the outcome of the election.”

The intelligence community did not say that the Russian hacking had “no effect on the outcome of the election,” but rather stated quite clearly: “We did not make an assessment of the impact that Russian activities had on the outcome of the 2016 election. The U.S. Intelligence Community is charged with monitoring and assessing the intentions, capabilities, and actions of foreign actors; it does not analyze U.S. political processes or U.S. public opinion.”

No wonder then that you have systematically sought to denigrate all inquiry into this act of cyber warfare that the intelligence report called “unprecedented.” You have scorned our intelligence agencies — you tweet “intelligence” in quotes the same way that we should eventually use quotes around the word “president” when it precedes your name — and you have continued your assault on the press.

On Friday, Trump told my colleague Michael Shear that the focus on the hacking amounted to “a political witch hunt.” Wrong again. It’s a truth hunt. Furthermore, the only person subjected to a witch hunt in this election was named Hillary.

Some may hesitate to say that the American presidency was stolen, but it is irrefutable that the integrity of our democratic process was injured when the sanctity of what we considered uncorrupted self-determination was assaulted.

Donald Trump is Vladimir Putin’s American “president” — clearly his preference and possibly his product.
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burd said:
I wonder how the last great GOP hero, Ronald Reagan, would respond?
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"Donald, you're a man after my own heart."


Trump’s Debts Are Widely Held on Wall Street, Creating New Potential Conflicts

Hundreds of millions of dollars of debt attached to Mr. Trump’s properties, some of them backed by Mr. Trump’s personal guarantee, were packaged into securities and sold to investors over the past five years, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of legal and property documents.

Mr. Trump has previously disclosed that his businesses owe at least $315 million to 10 companies. According to the Journal’s analysis, Trump businesses’ debts are held by more than 150 institutions. They bought the debt after it was sliced up and repackaged into bonds—a process known as securitization, which has been used for more than $1 billion of debt connected to Mr. Trump’s companies.

Hundreds of millions of dollars of debt attached to Mr. Trump’s properties, some of them backed by Mr. Trump’s personal guarantee, were packaged into securities and sold to investors over the past five years, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of legal and property documents.

Mr. Trump has previously disclosed that his businesses owe at least $315 million to 10 companies. According to the Journal’s analysis, Trump businesses’ debts are held by more than 150 institutions. They bought the debt after it was sliced up and repackaged into bonds—a process known as securitization, which has been used for more than $1 billion of debt connected to Mr. Trump’s companies.
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Why is securitization of debt even legal? Didn't we learn anything from the Great Recession?
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Why is securitization of debt even legal? Didn't we learn anything from the Great Recession?
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I'm sure it was designed to protect the consumer's interest in case their lender went belly up from having the outstanding principal of the loan called in, or if the lender thinks things might go south, trade the loan to another collector for a flat amount. Obviously the unintended consequence is the latter and its result: trading the loan for profit. As if the profit from interest isn't enough...
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
These idiots had 6 years to come up with a replacement for Obamacare. Where is it?

Great Editorial today in the NY Times on the hidden Republican agenda.

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/o...-nominees.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

Good article on Repeal and destroy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/09/u...are-lobby.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
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Do you really think Mitch McConnell or the Congressional Republicans give a crap about people on Medicaid?

Democrats should let them do it...this is what the White Working Class Voter wanted!
 
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Handyman said:
Do you really think Mitch McConnell or the Congressional Republicans give a crap about people on Medicaid?

Democrats should let them do it...this is what the White Working Class Voter wanted!
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I agree. I think they SHOULD let them do it. I think they should not have any opposition to any of it. If they want to win elections that's their best method right now is to let these idiots hang themselves.

But, here's the funny Republicans.

Senator Bob Corker on Obamacare: 'Much more prudent course of action' to repeal and replace 'at the same time'
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Hey, Bob. You have to have a replacement to do that. You have to, you know, govern. Something you can't do and haven't done since the 90's.
 
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I was wondering what the equivalent reaction in the other direction would be, if say Trump and the GOP truly implode and we get the four horsemen and then a tremendous liberal wave in 2018-20.

What would I wish for if I could have everything? In no particularly order. Amendments where required.

1. Abolition of the Electoral College. Presidency to be decided by plurality of popular vote.
2. Statehood for DC and the US territories. I'd split them into the Pacific Islands (American Samoa, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands) and the Atlantic Islands (Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands). That's three new states and 6 new Democratic Senators, but, you know, just coincidence and they should be represented
3. Amendment specifying that the rights delineated in the constitution do not apply to any fictive person (e.g., corporations).
4. ERA, well duh.
5. Amendment specifying Congressional districts will be redrawn by a non-partisan board using impartial mathematical models which emphasize maximal contiguity and whatever that dispersion of mass metric is that tells you a shape is not "twisty"
6. Public financing of elections, with one exception: total individual contributions capped at 1/10th of median American net worth (MANW). No collective or fictive entity may contribute. Advertising limited to the actual campaign and capped at 10x MANW.
7. Single payer health care
8. 90% estate tax over 100x MANW.
9. Criminalize the use of overseas tax shelters.
 
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1. I'll leave that to the states to pass.
2. Agreed (Samoa has the highest per capital rate of participation in the armed forces. I think Guam is up there as well. Time to thank them.)
3. Agreed
4. Yep.
5. Agreed
6. In a dream world I would love this. I have no idea how it would pass muster though short of an amendment.
 
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