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POTUS Elect Trump II: Lefties whining and regurgitating fake news

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Obviously, and nobody has suggested otherwise. Russia hacked in order to influence the election (successfully -- watch the footage of the Duma applauding Trump's election), but Russia did not hack the vote totals (I don't even know how they could -- the machines are freestanding as far as I know).

It's just laziness on the part of journalists. The word 'hack' has been changed to be something hip and edgy to use, even when actual hacking can't be found within a hundred miles of the story.
 
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Just as a thought experiment: what if they had an investigation and it turned out Russia had hacked the vote totals? What do you think would happen?

I am certain Trump would just ignore the whole thing and say inane things about bad liberals / crooked Hillary / the lying media / smartypants "experts" who said my fingers are abnormally short... Unless John Roberts decided to have one of his decennial lapses into conscience we couldn't do anything, I assume?
 
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Comey's horse**** letter shifted the election, not Russkieleaks.
 
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If you think the bolded part is some kind of revelation, not one person on here has suggested otherwise. In fact, multiple people have specifically noted that we're not suggesting the votes themselves were hacked.

It's funny, we're seeing an evolution of the strawman argument. In the past, it was generally required that a strawman at least bear a resemblance to the original point. You know, to not look completely stupid. Now? You just pile up some straw in a field, grab a beer, and drive General Lee right through it. That's considered proof on the right now.
 
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whatever will be will be. (let kep share his french here... :D )

just serves the US right for all the influence and puppets installed over the past century.


"there are fixed elections going on?!?!!? why i'm shocked!!!" :D

about time we took internet security seriously.
 
Re: POTUS Elect Trump II: Lefties whining and regurgitating fake news

Just as a thought experiment: what if they had an investigation and it turned out Russia had hacked the vote totals? What do you think would happen?

I am certain Trump would just ignore the whole thing and say inane things about bad liberals / crooked Hillary / the lying media / smartypants "experts" who said my fingers are abnormally short... Unless John Roberts decided to have one of his decennial lapses into conscience we couldn't do anything, I assume?

Before today? I have no idea. If the revelation happens between today and January 20th, I have no idea but it would be more violent than before today. After January 20th, we'd never hear about it.
 
Re: POTUS Elect Trump II: Lefties whining and regurgitating fake news

Comey's horse**** letter shifted the election, not Russkieleaks.

Yeah, but it's all connected. Comey, Wikileaks and the Russians all conspired (er, combined) for a perfectly-timed torpedo. Hillary was up 10 points and skating in on an empty net. It was over. But those three, for whatever their various agendas, breathed life back into what was dead to everyone except a few hundred saps / paid trolls typing in their underwear. And by a week after the election nobody but those saps believed there was anything substantial again.

It was the definitive October surprise. Quite beautifully carried off, actually, like 9/11. I mean if you want to view it aesthetically. Someday maybe 9/11 and 11/9 will be considered the pretty bookends that destroyed America.
 
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If you think the bolded part is some kind of revelation, not one person on here has suggested otherwise. In fact, multiple people have specifically noted that we're not suggesting the votes themselves were hacked.

then stop it with the "russia hacked the election" already!! all y'all
 
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Comey's horse**** letter shifted the election, not Russkieleaks.

the fact (fact) that people hated hilly shifted the election.

(and peeps not to stop already following what polls say. even rover has learned his lesson :) )
 
then stop it with the "russia hacked the election" already!! all y'all

Russia influenced the election by hacking various entities, including the RNC and DNC, and selectively releasing information it gleaned from the hacks to harm Clinton and favor Trump.

I can't help it if the media shorthands that to "Russia hacked the election" or if you, Sic, and Flaggy somehow don't have the mental capacity to glean the long form argument from the media's shorthand version.
 
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the fact (fact) that people hated hilly shifted the election.

(and peeps not to stop already following what polls say. even rover has learned his lesson :) )

No, that's what made it close. Without Hillary being hated Trump would have been down 20. Heck, maybe 30 -- he really is a doofus. So Hillary Hate wasn't dispositive. For that we needed Comey's Hand of God.
 
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then stop it with the "russia hacked the election" already!! all y'all

What? Bull****. They did hack the election. Doesn't matter if it changed the results or not. In fact it's not likely we'll ever know. But they did hack the ****ing election. You don't get to scrape that under the rug.
 
Re: POTUS Elect Trump II: Lefties whining and regurgitating fake news

Russia influenced the election by hacking various entities, including the RNC and DNC, and selectively releasing information it gleaned from the hacks to harm Clinton and favor Trump.

I can't help it if the media shorthands that to "Russia hacked the election" or if you, Sic, and Flaggy somehow don't have the mental capacity to glean the long form argument from the media's shorthand version.


OH MY FRIGGIN' GOD!!!!! someone tried to influence an election!!!!!

glad you have the mental capacity to see how the saudi's release oil to move prices in other parts of the world when they want sometime or someone asks.

or china buys this or that. or sells this or that to influence another country.

or england does
or france
or russia.

shocked i say, shocked!!!!


let's start an investigation!!! or fix flint's water. either way
 
then stop it with the "russia hacked the election" already!! all y'all

The national polls ended up being fairly accurate. Hillary won the popular vote by about 2 to 2.5 points, and most had her up 4 but fading.

The state polls were the ones that got it wrong.
 
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No, that's what made it close. Without Hillary being hated Trump would have been down 20. Heck, maybe 30 -- he really is a doofus. So Hillary Hate wasn't dispositive. For that we needed Comey's Hand of God.

wrong.

she wasn't winning. didn't matter who the R put up. loser.
 
Re: POTUS Elect Trump II: Lefties whining and regurgitating fake news

All I know is the Voulez-vouz line and "Je suis Batman"

I didn't take French. I took Spanish. French is useless.

Practically the same thing, both descended from Latin. If you can read Spanish, you can figure out quite a lot of French just from the way the words look. Had a kid in my French class who had taken a couple years of Spanish before this, and ended up writing half his tests in Spanish.
 
Re: POTUS Elect Trump II: Lefties whining and regurgitating fake news

Yeah, but it's all connected. Comey, Wikileaks and the Russians all conspired (er, combined) for a perfectly-timed torpedo. Hillary was up 10 points and skating in on an empty net. It was over.

Was she? Not snark. Not smarmy. But ... was she? Honestly.

The NYT had her as winning at 1930 Eastern on Nov 8, and then, in two of the most stunning hours of NYT and American history, the great cross-over happened.

Did Wikileaks, Comey, Vlad, et al, cause this in just two hours.
Or, pray tell, was Michael Moore right < barf > but nobody listened to his dire warnings.
 
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