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POTUS 45.64: Governance By Unhinged Twitter Rants

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Drew S. said:
My big question is what line are republicans in Congress not willing to cross? It seems to far we don’t have an answer to that.
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There's no line. The'll do anything they need to to steal the election. The only question is on 11/4 when they announce they've "won," what do you and I do?

We have to start with a 100% boycott on all work and purchasing, and force the 1% to remove them. And with our free time we literally stand in the streets and make crowds of millions in cities that say no more. A velvet revolution. It's either that or guns, and whichever side uses guns loses to the US military.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
This is the most fraught time since Lincoln. This is really quite worrying.

We’re at a dangerous point right now and I’m not sure we know how bad it is.
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I think the country is divided into three camps on this.

40% think this is America at its best and we are great again and love what trump and other elected republicans are doing and saying.

About 25% know how God-awful 5h!tty the mess we are in is and that we are at an inflection point, that this is the most danger our system has faced since the mid 19th century and trump literally may be the end to our country as a functioning democratic republic.

And finally about 35% think things are going in a troubling direction but don't believe the end is anywhere near and we will simply solve this by making another course correction by electing someone besides trump in November. That final 35% also has no fear of what might happen after the November elections and that all things will simply progress as normal, with a run of the mill transition to a new government and by next summer all will seem normal.
 
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WeAreNDHockey said:
I think the country is divided into three camps on this.

40% think this is America at its best and we are great again and love what trump and other elected republicans are doing and saying.

About 25% know how God-awful 5h!tty the mess we are in is and that we are at an inflection point, that this is the most danger our system has faced since the mid 19th century and trump literally may be the end to our country as a functioning democratic republic.

And finally about 35% think things are going in a troubling direction but don't believe the end is anywhere near and we will simply solve this by making another course correction by electing someone besides trump in November. That final 35% also has no fear of what might happen after the November elections and that all things will simply progress as normal, with a run of the mill transition to a new government and by next summer all will seem normal.
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I think this is accurate.

Now here's the problem as I see it: the 40% Dumpies are all in, mentally. Everything Fox et al says is gospel. We know Dump will say he won and anything else is "fake" and "illegal." We know if the GOP gives even a tiny indication they will go along with it, or at least look the other way, then the RWNM will scream everything Dump is screaming -- a major political party will commit treason against the US Constitution.

The 25% will be in the streets, but what will the 35% do? How far gone are they? How lazy and soft? The Plutes will take the path of greatest profit -- capital would churn live babies into a slurry if there was a penny extra profit in it, it is by definition amoral -- and the entire structure of capitalism from finance to media to retail will defend capital interests.

So we have to make it more profitable for the Plutes to put down the coup than go along with it. The way to do that is massive withdrawal from the economy, at every level. Do the 35% have the onions for that? Or will they shrug and say, well, Singapore runs well enough, who really needs democracy?
 
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I believe those percentages are accurate. And the sad thing is that 40% that are locked in is the biggest number. And that's been the problem every election cycle since 1980.
 
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Kepler said:
So we have to make it more profitable for the Plutes to put down the coup than go along with it. The way to do that is massive withdrawal from the economy, at every level. Do the 35% have the onions to do that?
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No. They don't.
 
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WeAreNDHockey said:
No. They don't.
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Let's hope they do because I do not know whether 25% of the population in the streets, 40% backed by their wackadoodle god-emperor screaming to murder them, and 35% just trying to keep their head down and put food on the table, will be enough to stop the machine.

Now add that once violence erupts, most likely from the 40%, the 35% are going to want it to stop ASAP, no matter what that entails. Nobody wants bombs being tossed about and the vast majority of all human beings in all times has preferred "a thousand years of tyranny to one night of chaos." So the right can get what it wants by becoming violent, which is its dearest fantasy anyway.
 
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I believe those percentages are accurate. And the sad thing is that 40% that are locked in is the biggest number. And that's been the problem every election cycle since 1980.
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That's my fear. Part of the 35% are just too apathetic to vote. Part of the 25% have given up on the system because for much of the existence of our country the system has hurt the 99% and helped the 1%, and that string has been mostly unbroken since the 1970s and they no longer participate in what they believe to be (and in some ways is) a corrupt, morally evil system. But that 40% seems bound and determined to ruin the country.

More than ever before the future hinges on turnout for an election that will likely be happening in the middle of the worst health crisis the world has ever faced (this fall is going to be exponentially worse than the last 2 months have been). And as Kep wondered about, what might happen if the good guys DO win in November and trump and the MAGAts refuse to accept the results? Does trump's Senate do the right thing or do they throw gasoline on the fire?

If you are not literally scared for the future of this country, you are either evil or you are not paying attention. I don't see any other way of looking at it.
 
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That's my fear. Part of the 35% are just too apathetic to vote.
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In the scenario I am positing they do vote, in a landslide, for Biden and the Dems, but the GOP simply cheats nakedly and wholesale. They either nullify the election or more likely simply announce their own utterly made up results with a thin rationale justifying them canceling or altering millions of ballots. Their argument are accepted and rebroadcast on Fox and Hate Radio and elected Republicans and their punditry go on the offensive accusing us of the very fraud they are perpetuating.

That could happen in November. The right is no longer a democratic entity, it is a criminal enterprise with a terrorist arm.

So what happens if they do that? What can we do, and more importantly what can we do right now to prepare?
 
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rufus said:
Oooooooh. Obamagate. Sounds serious.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In this now declassified email that Susan Rice sent herself, we see that President Obama refused to request law enforcement investigations of Team Trump’s known Russia ties and insisted that any actions be “by the book.” Apparently, “Obamagate” means doing the right thing. <a href="https://t.co/AFWhGNicCM">pic.twitter.com/AFWhGNicCM</a></p>— Evan McMullin (@EvanMcMullin) <a href="https://twitter.com/EvanMcMullin/status/1262846385822461952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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This is a "rebuttal" I saw elsewhere regarding that tweet. fwiw:

It’s called cover.

She publicly denied she knew about the investigation and unmasking and the we get this email?? :lol:

Rice has lost all credibility:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">President <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realDonaldTrump</a> needs to retweet this video of Susan Rice lying through her teeth about unmasking. <a href="https://t.co/REIBkUnSWM">pic.twitter.com/REIBkUnSWM</a></p>— thebradfordfile™ (@thebradfordfile) <a href="https://twitter.com/thebradfordfile/status/1262887793161834498?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Also, Clapper ****ed up when he briefed Obama and Rice. They were not supposed to know some of the classified material Comey’s team had. That’s why Rice wrote the memo to herself (who does that?), to protect her and Obama.
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That’s why Rice wrote the memo to herself (who does that?), to protect her and Obama.
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*raises hand* I do. I have also retained every email I have ever sent from my corporate email (eight years worth (as a field tech, email is infrequent)). But it has saved my *ss and my company's *ss a couple times.


Once, in particular, a resident engineer had me lined up square with the bus he was gonna throw me under for his incompetence because "I never told him of a utility conflict with a critical high pressure natural gas line," for a project I was on with him for six months, that he was struggling to close out.

Two emails from my archive forwarded to my boss later, and that RE was suddenly looking at a letter from HR asking for him to quit or he was going to be fired.


It's called cover-your-*ss and document everything.
 
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aparch said:
*raises hand* I do. I have also retained every email I have ever sent from my corporate email (eight years worth (as a field tech, email is infrequent)). But it has saved my *ss and my company's *ss a couple times.


Once, in particular, a resident engineer had me lined up square with the bus he was gonna throw me under for his incompetence because "I never told him of a utility conflict with a critical high pressure natural gas line," for a project I was on with him for six months, that he was struggling to close out.

Two emails from my archive forwarded to my boss later, and that RE was suddenly looking at a letter from HR asking for him to quit or he was going to be fired.


It's called cover-your-*ss and document everything.
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I do that and I *do* get a lot of email. Current archive file goes back to 2016, and I have 66,004 emails in it. That's an average of 40 per day, 7 days a week for 4.5 years.

So worth it to have the archive.

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aparch said:
*raises hand* I do. I have also retained every email I have ever sent from my corporate email (eight years worth (as a field tech, email is infrequent)). But it has saved my *ss and my company's *ss a couple times.


Once, in particular, a resident engineer had me lined up square with the bus he was gonna throw me under for his incompetence because "I never told him of a utility conflict with a critical high pressure natural gas line," for a project I was on with him for six months, that he was struggling to close out.

Two emails from my archive forwarded to my boss later, and that RE was suddenly looking at a letter from HR asking for him to quit or he was going to be fired.


It's called cover-your-*ss and document everything.
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This is why I never task or perform a baseline-changing action unless it's against a timestamped artifact in my company's database of record. And yes it has saved my reputation, and maybe my job, at least once.

It doesn't even have to be protection against malfeasance as in your example. People honestly forget, or get confused, especially when personnel changes and time passes.

You kids out there: always use protection.
 
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LynahFan said:
I do that and I *do* get a lot of email. Current archive file goes back to 2016, and I have 66,004 emails in it. That's an average of 40 per day, 7 days a week for 4.5 years.

So worth it to have the archive.

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Just wait until it corrupts and you find out auto archive hasn't worked since 2013.
 
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My previous employer had a 21 day window to archive an email or lose it forever. I hated that. I received anywhere from 50 to 100 emails a day, Monday-Friday, and another couple dozen over the weekends. Every now and again, I would forget to archive one and a couple of times I was saved when either the sender or another recipient did archive it. When I left that job last August I had around 100,000 emails saved. I never bothered to set up any kind of auto-save options.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another state sending absentee ballot *applications* to all voters is Georgia (GOP Governor & Secretary of State).<br><br>So far, President Trump has not threatened to withhold federal money from Georgia. <a href="https://t.co/8Nn6UKRA1E">pic.twitter.com/8Nn6UKRA1E</a></p>— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) <a href="https://twitter.com/jamiedupree/status/1263106237316677632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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