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POTUS 45.63: This Thread Gets Better Ratings Than The Super Bowl
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Re: POTUS 45.63: This Thread Gets Better Ratings Than The Super Bowl
Well, if you can't keep it in your pants, and least keep it in the family.
Well, if you can't keep it in your pants, and least keep it in the family.
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there's a good buck in that racket.
Not necessarily true in this case
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“I built the greatest economy in the history of the world...I built it. We had the best employment.”<br><br>For context, this is where Trump took over: <a href="https://t.co/aA3L5fAu6k">pic.twitter.com/aA3L5fAu6k</a></p>— Helen Kennedy (@HelenKennedy) <a href="https://twitter.com/HelenKennedy/status/1254900353113391105?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The party of personal responsibility sure ain’t what it never was anymore. <a href="https://t.co/vgjsOyKRU6">https://t.co/vgjsOyKRU6</a></p>— Rex Huppke (@RexHuppke) <a href="https://twitter.com/RexHuppke/status/1254899001817739265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The party of personal responsibility sure ain’t what it never was anymore. <a href="https://t.co/vgjsOyKRU6">https://t.co/vgjsOyKRU6</a></p>— Rex Huppke (@RexHuppke) <a href="https://twitter.com/RexHuppke/status/1254899001817739265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Seriously was this edited? Is it real?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">this is my noble prize acceptance speech <a href="https://t.co/MVyhH6vmSE">https://t.co/MVyhH6vmSE</a></p>— Matt HOST OF HARDBALL AT 7PM ON MSNBC Negrin (@MattNegrin) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattNegrin/status/1254889688873209858?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Seriously was this edited? Is it real?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">this is my noble prize acceptance speech <a href="https://t.co/MVyhH6vmSE">https://t.co/MVyhH6vmSE</a></p>— Matt HOST OF HARDBALL AT 7PM ON MSNBC Negrin (@MattNegrin) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattNegrin/status/1254889688873209858?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
dxmnkd316
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Re: POTUS 45.63: This Thread Gets Better Ratings Than The Super Bowl
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
Trump is doing... bad in these latest two polls. And one is Rasmussen.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
Trump is doing... bad in these latest two polls. And one is Rasmussen.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45.63: This Thread Gets Better Ratings Than The Super Bowl
But still well within the swing of his tenure. And remember, we need about a 6-point victory just to win the EC.
The response to the pandemic is giving me hope, though. People are literally risking their lives to fight this. Public service is gaining fans and selfishness is losing them. I'm watching our country grow back up after 40 years as a toxic frat party.
By November, we should have enough adults to expel these sociopaths, and not just from the White House. In a democratic system the people eventually get a say, after all other options have been exhausted. I know the GOP will come with lies and dirty tricks -- in red states they will probably even use force and real physical harm. It will be the South in the 60s again, because these are the same racist as-sholes and their only playbook is violence. But people under difficult conditions do not behave as in libertarian fap fantasies -- it's not every man for himself. And in a country where people start caring about each other again the Republican party doesn't have a chance.
But still well within the swing of his tenure. And remember, we need about a 6-point victory just to win the EC.
The response to the pandemic is giving me hope, though. People are literally risking their lives to fight this. Public service is gaining fans and selfishness is losing them. I'm watching our country grow back up after 40 years as a toxic frat party.
By November, we should have enough adults to expel these sociopaths, and not just from the White House. In a democratic system the people eventually get a say, after all other options have been exhausted. I know the GOP will come with lies and dirty tricks -- in red states they will probably even use force and real physical harm. It will be the South in the 60s again, because these are the same racist as-sholes and their only playbook is violence. But people under difficult conditions do not behave as in libertarian fap fantasies -- it's not every man for himself. And in a country where people start caring about each other again the Republican party doesn't have a chance.
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Re: POTUS 45.63: This Thread Gets Better Ratings Than The Super Bowl
I think you are over-inflating how much it will take to win. If you believe polls Biden is already shifting the necessary votes in the states he has to win back (Sconnie/Penn/Michigan) and lest we forget Hillary didnt lose them by much. (and many of those polls were from last month before he crapped the bed on COVID) Trump's numbers dipping now isnt making things closer for Biden, it is making things harder for Trump. He was already facing a tough task because Biden is liked in many of the places Hillary wasnt. Now Trump and his cohorts basically just told the Old People to slough off and die. This has gone pear shaped on him fast. Christ even wagging the dog (twice!) to them A-RABS didnt fix things for him.
I make no guarantees cause I bet often enough to know better...but if he has anyone on his staff who is supposed to analyze the polls they are getting the hemlock ready...especially if they read the Florida numbers.
I think you are over-inflating how much it will take to win. If you believe polls Biden is already shifting the necessary votes in the states he has to win back (Sconnie/Penn/Michigan) and lest we forget Hillary didnt lose them by much. (and many of those polls were from last month before he crapped the bed on COVID) Trump's numbers dipping now isnt making things closer for Biden, it is making things harder for Trump. He was already facing a tough task because Biden is liked in many of the places Hillary wasnt. Now Trump and his cohorts basically just told the Old People to slough off and die. This has gone pear shaped on him fast. Christ even wagging the dog (twice!) to them A-RABS didnt fix things for him.
I make no guarantees cause I bet often enough to know better...but if he has anyone on his staff who is supposed to analyze the polls they are getting the hemlock ready...especially if they read the Florida numbers.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45.63: This Thread Gets Better Ratings Than The Super Bowl
I never bet because I am so risk averse. In this case we have to factor in that the house will try to rig the game against us. We have to win really big, because when we win the other side is not going to accept it, and we will have a de facto insurgency poisoning the country.
I never bet because I am so risk averse. In this case we have to factor in that the house will try to rig the game against us. We have to win really big, because when we win the other side is not going to accept it, and we will have a de facto insurgency poisoning the country.
Re: POTUS 45.63: This Thread Gets Better Ratings Than The Super Bowl
View from the other side of the pond.
April 25, 2020
By Fintan O’Toole
THE WORLD HAS LOVED, HATED AND ENVIED THE U.S. NOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE PITY IT
Over more than two centuries, the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger. But thereis one emotion that has never been directed towards the US until now: pity.
However bad things are for most other rich democracies, it is hard not to feel sorry for Americans. Most of them did not vote for Donald Trump in 2016. Yet they are locked down with a malignantnarcissist who, instead of protecting his people from Covid-19, has amplified its lethality. The country Trump promised to make great again has never in its history seemed so pitiful.
Will American prestige ever recover from this shameful episode? The US went into the coronavirus crisis with immense advantages: precious weeks of warning about what was coming, the world’s bestconcentration of medical and scientific expertise, effectively limitless financial resources, a military complex with stunning logistical capacity and most of the world’s leading technology corporations. Yet it managed to make itself the global epicentre ofthe pandemic.
As the American writer George Packer puts it in the current edition of the Atlantic, “The United States reacted ... like Pakistan or Belarus – like a country with shoddy infrastructure and a dysfunctionalgovernment whose leaders were too corrupt or stupid to head off mass suffering.”
It is one thing to be powerless in the face of a natural disaster, quite another to watch vast power being squandered in real time – wilfully, malevolently, vindictively. It is one thing for governmentsto fail (as, in one degree or another, most governments did), quite another to watch a ruler and his supporters actively spread a deadly virus. Trump, his party and Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News became vectors of the pestilence.
The grotesque spectacle of the president openly inciting people (some of them armed) to take to the streets to oppose the restrictions that save lives is the manifestation of a political deathwish. What are supposed to be daily briefings on the crisis, demonstrative of national unity in the face of a shared challenge, have been used by Trump merely to sow confusion and division. They provide a recurring horror show in which all the neuroses thathaunt the American subconscious dance naked on live TV.
If the plague is a test, its ruling political nexus ensured that the US would fail it at a terrible cost in human lives. In the process, the idea of the US as the world’s leading nation – an ideathat has shaped the past century – has all but evaporated.
Other than the Trump impersonator Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil, who is now looking to the US as the exemplar of anything other than what not to do? How many people in Düsseldorf or Dublin are wishingthey lived in Detroit or Dallas?
It is hard to remember now but, even in 2017, when Trump took office, the conventional wisdom in the US was that the Republican Party and the broader framework of US political institutions wouldprevent him from doing too much damage. This was always a delusion, but the pandemic has exposed it in the most savage ways.
Abject surrender
What used to be called mainstream conservatism has not absorbed Trump – he has absorbed it. Almost the entire right-wing half of American politics has surrendered abjectly to him. It has sacrificed on the altar of wanton stupidity the most basic ideas of responsibility,care and even safety.
Thus, even at the very end of March, 15 Republican governors had failed to order people to stay at home or to close non-essential businesses. In Alabama, for example, it was not until April 3rdthat governor Kay Ivey finally issued a stay-at-home order.
In Florida, the state with the highest concentration of elderly people with underlying conditions, governor Ron DeSantis, a Trump mini-me, kept the beach resorts open to students travelling fromall over the US for spring break parties. Even on April 1st, when he issued restrictions, DeSantis exempted religious services and “recreational activities”.
Georgia governor Brian Kemp, when he finally issued a stay-at-home order on April 1st, explained: “We didn’t know that [the virus can be spread by people without symptoms] until the last 24 hours.”
This is not mere ignorance – it is deliberate and homicidal stupidity. There is, as the demonstrations this week in US cities have shown, plenty of political mileage in denying the reality ofthe pandemic. It is fuelled by Fox News and far-right internet sites, and it reaps for these politicians millions of dollars in donations, mostly (in an ugly irony) from older people who are most vulnerable to the coronavirus.
It draws on a concoction of conspiracy theories, hatred of science, paranoia about the “deep state” and religious providentialism (God will protect the good folks) that is now very deeply infusedin the mindset of the American right.
Trump embodies and enacts this mindset, but he did not invent it. The US response to the coronavirus crisis has been paralysed by a contradiction that the Republicans have inserted into the heartof US democracy. On the one hand, they want to control all the levers of governmental power. On the other they have created a popular base by playing on the notion that government is innately evil and must not be trusted.
The contradiction was made manifest in two of Trump’s statements on the pandemic: on the one hand that he has “total authority”, and on the other that “I don’t take responsibility at all”. Caughtbetween authoritarian and anarchic impulses, he is incapable of coherence.
Fertile ground
But this is not just Donald Trump. The crisis has shown definitively that Trump’s presidency is not an aberration. It has grown on soil long prepared to receive it. The monstrous blossoming of misrule has structure and purpose and strategy behind it.
There are very powerful interests who demand “freedom” in order to do as they like with the environment, society and the economy. They have infused a very large part of American culture with thebelief that “freedom” is literally more important than life. My freedom to own assault weapons trumps your right not to get shot at school. Now, my freedom to go to the barber (“I Need a Haircut” read one banner this week in St Paul, Minnesota) trumps yourneed to avoid infection.
Usually when this kind of outlandish idiocy is displaying itself, there is the comforting thought that, if things were really serious, it would all stop. People would sober up. Instead, a largepart of the US has hit the bottle even harder.
And the president, his party and their media allies keep supplying the drinks. There has been no moment of truth, no shock of realisation that the antics have to end. No one of any substance onthe US right has stepped in to say: get a grip, people are dying here.
That is the mark of how deep the trouble is for the US – it is not just that Trump has treated the crisis merely as a way to feed tribal hatreds but that this behaviour has become normalised.When the freak show is live on TV every evening, and the star is boasting about his ratings, it is not really a freak show any more. For a very large and solid bloc of Americans, it is reality.
And this will get worse before it gets better. Trump has at least eight more months in power. In his inaugural address in 2017, he evoked “American carnage” and promised to make it stop. But nowthat the real carnage has arrived, he is revelling in it. He is in his element.
As things get worse, he will pump more hatred and falsehood, more death-wish defiance of reason and decency, into the groundwater. If a new administration succeeds him in 2021, it will have toclean up the toxic dump he leaves behind. If he is re-elected, toxicity will have become the lifeblood of American politics.
Either way, it will be a long time before the rest of the world can imagine America being great again.
View from the other side of the pond.
April 25, 2020
By Fintan O’Toole
THE WORLD HAS LOVED, HATED AND ENVIED THE U.S. NOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE PITY IT
Over more than two centuries, the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger. But thereis one emotion that has never been directed towards the US until now: pity.
However bad things are for most other rich democracies, it is hard not to feel sorry for Americans. Most of them did not vote for Donald Trump in 2016. Yet they are locked down with a malignantnarcissist who, instead of protecting his people from Covid-19, has amplified its lethality. The country Trump promised to make great again has never in its history seemed so pitiful.
Will American prestige ever recover from this shameful episode? The US went into the coronavirus crisis with immense advantages: precious weeks of warning about what was coming, the world’s bestconcentration of medical and scientific expertise, effectively limitless financial resources, a military complex with stunning logistical capacity and most of the world’s leading technology corporations. Yet it managed to make itself the global epicentre ofthe pandemic.
As the American writer George Packer puts it in the current edition of the Atlantic, “The United States reacted ... like Pakistan or Belarus – like a country with shoddy infrastructure and a dysfunctionalgovernment whose leaders were too corrupt or stupid to head off mass suffering.”
It is one thing to be powerless in the face of a natural disaster, quite another to watch vast power being squandered in real time – wilfully, malevolently, vindictively. It is one thing for governmentsto fail (as, in one degree or another, most governments did), quite another to watch a ruler and his supporters actively spread a deadly virus. Trump, his party and Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News became vectors of the pestilence.
The grotesque spectacle of the president openly inciting people (some of them armed) to take to the streets to oppose the restrictions that save lives is the manifestation of a political deathwish. What are supposed to be daily briefings on the crisis, demonstrative of national unity in the face of a shared challenge, have been used by Trump merely to sow confusion and division. They provide a recurring horror show in which all the neuroses thathaunt the American subconscious dance naked on live TV.
If the plague is a test, its ruling political nexus ensured that the US would fail it at a terrible cost in human lives. In the process, the idea of the US as the world’s leading nation – an ideathat has shaped the past century – has all but evaporated.
Other than the Trump impersonator Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil, who is now looking to the US as the exemplar of anything other than what not to do? How many people in Düsseldorf or Dublin are wishingthey lived in Detroit or Dallas?
It is hard to remember now but, even in 2017, when Trump took office, the conventional wisdom in the US was that the Republican Party and the broader framework of US political institutions wouldprevent him from doing too much damage. This was always a delusion, but the pandemic has exposed it in the most savage ways.
Abject surrender
What used to be called mainstream conservatism has not absorbed Trump – he has absorbed it. Almost the entire right-wing half of American politics has surrendered abjectly to him. It has sacrificed on the altar of wanton stupidity the most basic ideas of responsibility,care and even safety.
Thus, even at the very end of March, 15 Republican governors had failed to order people to stay at home or to close non-essential businesses. In Alabama, for example, it was not until April 3rdthat governor Kay Ivey finally issued a stay-at-home order.
In Florida, the state with the highest concentration of elderly people with underlying conditions, governor Ron DeSantis, a Trump mini-me, kept the beach resorts open to students travelling fromall over the US for spring break parties. Even on April 1st, when he issued restrictions, DeSantis exempted religious services and “recreational activities”.
Georgia governor Brian Kemp, when he finally issued a stay-at-home order on April 1st, explained: “We didn’t know that [the virus can be spread by people without symptoms] until the last 24 hours.”
This is not mere ignorance – it is deliberate and homicidal stupidity. There is, as the demonstrations this week in US cities have shown, plenty of political mileage in denying the reality ofthe pandemic. It is fuelled by Fox News and far-right internet sites, and it reaps for these politicians millions of dollars in donations, mostly (in an ugly irony) from older people who are most vulnerable to the coronavirus.
It draws on a concoction of conspiracy theories, hatred of science, paranoia about the “deep state” and religious providentialism (God will protect the good folks) that is now very deeply infusedin the mindset of the American right.
Trump embodies and enacts this mindset, but he did not invent it. The US response to the coronavirus crisis has been paralysed by a contradiction that the Republicans have inserted into the heartof US democracy. On the one hand, they want to control all the levers of governmental power. On the other they have created a popular base by playing on the notion that government is innately evil and must not be trusted.
The contradiction was made manifest in two of Trump’s statements on the pandemic: on the one hand that he has “total authority”, and on the other that “I don’t take responsibility at all”. Caughtbetween authoritarian and anarchic impulses, he is incapable of coherence.
Fertile ground
But this is not just Donald Trump. The crisis has shown definitively that Trump’s presidency is not an aberration. It has grown on soil long prepared to receive it. The monstrous blossoming of misrule has structure and purpose and strategy behind it.
There are very powerful interests who demand “freedom” in order to do as they like with the environment, society and the economy. They have infused a very large part of American culture with thebelief that “freedom” is literally more important than life. My freedom to own assault weapons trumps your right not to get shot at school. Now, my freedom to go to the barber (“I Need a Haircut” read one banner this week in St Paul, Minnesota) trumps yourneed to avoid infection.
Usually when this kind of outlandish idiocy is displaying itself, there is the comforting thought that, if things were really serious, it would all stop. People would sober up. Instead, a largepart of the US has hit the bottle even harder.
And the president, his party and their media allies keep supplying the drinks. There has been no moment of truth, no shock of realisation that the antics have to end. No one of any substance onthe US right has stepped in to say: get a grip, people are dying here.
That is the mark of how deep the trouble is for the US – it is not just that Trump has treated the crisis merely as a way to feed tribal hatreds but that this behaviour has become normalised.When the freak show is live on TV every evening, and the star is boasting about his ratings, it is not really a freak show any more. For a very large and solid bloc of Americans, it is reality.
And this will get worse before it gets better. Trump has at least eight more months in power. In his inaugural address in 2017, he evoked “American carnage” and promised to make it stop. But nowthat the real carnage has arrived, he is revelling in it. He is in his element.
As things get worse, he will pump more hatred and falsehood, more death-wish defiance of reason and decency, into the groundwater. If a new administration succeeds him in 2021, it will have toclean up the toxic dump he leaves behind. If he is re-elected, toxicity will have become the lifeblood of American politics.
Either way, it will be a long time before the rest of the world can imagine America being great again.
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Re: POTUS 45.63: This Thread Gets Better Ratings Than The Super Bowl
Based on....Obama winning re-election and the EC with a 3.8% margin in our most recent example of a Dem win?
Based on....Obama winning re-election and the EC with a 3.8% margin in our most recent example of a Dem win?
French Rage
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https://www.wcax.com/content/news/T...opening-schools-before-summer--570004901.html
https://www.wcax.com/content/news/T...opening-schools-before-summer--570004901.html
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45.63: This Thread Gets Better Ratings Than The Super Bowl
Kill Your Kids for Komcast
Kill Your Kids for Komcast
rufus
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Maybe not kill. Make them super spreaders, certainly.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well, that certainly explains a lot. <a href="https://t.co/zHWComHwUU">https://t.co/zHWComHwUU</a></p>— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) <a href="https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1255493277362597888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well, that certainly explains a lot. <a href="https://t.co/zHWComHwUU">https://t.co/zHWComHwUU</a></p>— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) <a href="https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1255493277362597888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: POTUS 45.63: This Thread Gets Better Ratings Than The Super Bowl
Holy ****. None of this is really news, but it's striking to see in words. Also not surprising that Pence is a complete submissive.
Holy god...
This article is amazing:
Holy ****. None of this is really news, but it's striking to see in words. Also not surprising that Pence is a complete submissive.
Holy god...
This article is amazing:
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