POTUS 45.6 - Russia Is Just A Witch Hunt

[The Sicatoka]

Re: POTUS 45.6 - Russia Is Just A Witch Hunt

And the story here is that you apparently just did, too, and you still don't have anything showing Obama personally ordered the illegal tapping of Trump Tower, which is the 1/250 possibility that you are staunchly defending as though it actually happened. Or did Drudge just find this and now you're playing it off as your own research?

Would Mr. Trump be so Twitter-challenged as to short-hand "Obama Administration" as "Obama"?
Short answer: Yes, Mr. Trump is challenged, vastly, in many areas.

And no, not my research. Credit: Armstrong and Getty

 

[alfablue]

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Would Mr. Trump be so Twitter-challenged as to short-hand "Obama Administration" as "Obama"?
Short answer: Yes, Mr. Trump is challenged, vastly, in many areas.

And no, not my research. Credit: Armstrong and Getty

Why don't you answer anyone else's questions? You just keep challenging the same thing over and over again.

Why doesn't don release the information proving that President Obama or just his administration illegally wiretapped him or his campaign? It's 100% within his bounds as the President?

Or on the flip side- which is worse- the fact that some of his guys were listened to as part of routine recording of Russian phones or the fact that they were even calling the Russians? Since that's currently the highest probability option going on here.

That's pretty much all of the claims of wiretapping and recording lead to.

 

[Scarlet]

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I don't think leaving out "Administration" is because he's Twitter challenged. I think it was deliberate so he can say he meant Administration but now all his minions are all OBAMA IS TOTALLY CORRUPT OMGWTGBBQ!!!1!!

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Again, the people who will be worst hurt are the people who voted Trump into office.

Karma.

Can't wait. Of course, it will still be Obama's fault somehow. Or Hillary's, or Soros', or whoever the right's Ghoul of the Moment is at that point.

 

[alfablue]

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Can't wait. Of course, it will still be Obama's fault somehow. Or Hillary's, or Soros', or whoever the right's Ghoul of the Moment is at that point.

Well, it will be Obama Care that failed. Not this. Can't be this. Even if it is this.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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Why don't you answer anyone else's questions? You just keep challenging the same thing over and over again.

Why doesn't don release the information proving that President Obama or just his administration illegally wiretapped him or his campaign? It's 100% within his bounds as the President?

Or on the flip side- which is worse- the fact that some of his guys were listened to as part of routine recording of Russian phones or the fact that they were even calling the Russians? Since that's currently the highest probability option going on here.

That's pretty much all of the claims of wiretapping and recording lead to.

There was no wire tap. Clapper said so Sunday.

So what was the NYT reporting on (Jan 19, 2017) when they said there was a wiretap that found no conclusive evidence?

Those two items do not align.


PS - I'd love tDJT to sign and release ... classified. That would set off the next "how dumb is Trump" feces inferno.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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< sidebar >

"... Obama tapped ..."

For some reason I envision Mr. Obama in black referee Reeboks, black jazz pants (please, no yoga pants), a black turtleneck (of course), a black watch cap, black gloves, with a black doctor's satchel, going all "John Belushi in Animal House" stealth mode, and sneaking into Trump Tower.



C'mon. Admit it. You smirked and chuckled at the image too.

 

[alfablue]

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There was no wire tap. Clapper said so Sunday.

So what was the NYT reporting on (Jan 19, 2017) when they said there was a wiretap that found no conclusive evidence?

Those two items do not align.


PS - I'd love tDJT to sign and release ... classified. That would set off the next "how dumb is Trump" feces inferno.

So the word "wiretapped" means that don's building was wiretapped? I don't read that what so ever in that article.

You are making that conclusion all on your own.

Were people wiretapped? Yes, we know that- the Russians are. And anyone who called them got caught up in that. You don't seem to recognize that- it's what got Flynn in trouble.

Again, the REALLY OBVIOUS conclusion to any trumpster getting recorded on the phone was them dealing with Russians. Do you not see that?

It's VERY possible that people from don's campaign got wiretapped- but it wasn't because THEY were being wiretapped- but who they were calling.

Bring more proof than just making a conclusion based on the appearance of a word in an article.

 

[Kepler]

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< sidebar >

"... Obama tapped ..."

For some reason I envision Mr. Obama in black referee Reeboks, black jazz pants (please, no yoga pants), a black turtleneck (of course), a black watch cap, black gloves, with a black doctor's satchel, going all "John Belushi in Animal House" stealth mode, and sneaking into Trump Tower.

Only to find Kelly Anne.

 

[Handyman]

Re: POTUS 45.6 - Russia Is Just A Witch Hunt

There was no wire tap. Clapper said so Sunday.

So what was the NYT reporting on (Jan 19, 2017) when they said there was a wiretap that found no conclusive evidence?

Those two items do not align.


PS - I'd love tDJT to sign and release ... classified. That would set off the next "how dumb is Trump" feces inferno.

You know James Clapper isnt the writer of the article from the NYT right? They didnt align because (most likely) the sources for the NYT's article were mistaken. Or, and try and keep up since apparently you have an issue discerning how two stories about similar subjects might be about two different things, they were discussing two different situations. (situations that were legal anyways so who flipping cares) Or, as alfa said, Trump was tapped at all but the diplomats and spies he and his bunch of racist, misogynistic, Anti-American Cronies were dealing with were. Amazing how that works...

Keep trying to make it seem like there is some flaw, some hole, some conspiracy that isnt there. You sound more like Donald than you want to man...you are approaching Flaggy territory.

But since I have you here and you are reading this...still waiting for some explanation about how Obama fits into all of this. I mean again, he is the one Trump is accusing of tapping him not the FBI/CIA/Clapper/etc. He said OBAMA...and you, even though you tried and preface it by saying "It obviously isnt true, but it COULD be true...maybe it is true...lets discuss it like it is true...hey he did it!!" keep dodging that point trying to play slight of hand with the facts. Where is the proof? Stop stalling, stop talking about Clapper and the NYTs because they are irrelevant. Either back up the Donald's (and yours...it would seem) assertions that Obama illegally /legally tapped Trump Towers or just admit he is a lying piece of crap and Obama didnt do it. Dont cloud it in "well chances are" or "I am a skeptic" or "Occam's Razor" just say it. Answer the question, did Obama order the tapping? If so...prove it!

 

[rufus]

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There was no wire tap. Clapper said so Sunday.

No wiretap of Trump Tower, you frickin' maroon.

Were there wiretaps of Russian officials? Undoubtedly.

Why were members of trump's staff talking to these officials? And what about? Congress should investigate these things.

 

[MaizeRage]

Re: POTUS 45.6 - Russia Is Just A Witch Hunt

Even Sean Spicer didn't try as hard to defend Trump's BS as Old Pio is now.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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Again, the REALLY OBVIOUS conclusion to any trumpster getting recorded on the phone was them dealing with Russians. Do you not see that?

The same NYT article that said "wiretapped" (their bad choice of word?) also said "no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing" when they were (obviously) tapping Russians.

So, either there was no tap (Clapper) and there should be an investigation, or, there was a tap* and it found "no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing".

NYT says there was a tap and nothing conclusive.


*A tap, so somewhere, on something (meaning I'll say not in Trump Tower), which would mean "FISA warrant" (tapping Russians) which would easy for Trump to release (as POTUS), or, there was no FISA warrant for the tap of the Russians (whups).

 

[The Sicatoka]

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Only to find Kelly Anne.

I was more envisioning Belushi on the ladder and Melania in the window.

 

[Handyman]

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No wiretap of Trump Tower, you frickin' maroon.

Were there wiretaps of Russian officials? Undoubtedly.

Why were members of trump's staff talking to these officials? And what about? Congress should investigate these things.

He has to be trolling...

Putin's Propaganda Arm Dumps CIA Files

So now Wikileaks not only hacked the DNC but the CIA and is releasing all sorts of files? Sure I cant see anything wrong with that...

 

[Rogie21]

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GOP Rep. Nunes, who chairs the House Intelligence Committee pulled out the "can't take Trump's words literally" excuse, chiding reporters for doing just that with president who is political neophyte. Beyond pathetic, beyond craven.

 

[jerphisch]

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The same NYT article that said "wiretapped" (their bad choice of word?) also said "no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing" when they were (obviously) tapping Russians.

So, either there was no tap (Clapper) and there should be an investigation, or, there was a tap* and it found "no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing".

NYT says there was a tap and nothing conclusive.


*A tap, so somewhere, on something (meaning I'll say not in Trump Tower), which would mean "FISA warrant" (tapping Russians) which would easy for Trump to release (as POTUS), or, there was no FISA warrant for the tap of the Russians (whups).

Do you cross the street on your own? Clapper said there was no tap of Trump Tower or the Trump campaign. He never commented on a tap of Russian officials.

 

[Rogie21]

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He has to be trolling...

Putin's Propaganda Arm Dumps CIA Files

So now Wikileaks not only hacked the DNC but the CIA and is releasing all sorts of files? Sure I cant see anything wrong with that...

So will Trump respond with the "I love Wikileaks" praise from his campaign rallies or the "disgraceful," and "death penalty" comments he made in 2010 when Wikileaks revealed documents stolen by Bradley Manning? HINT: first he'll ask himself, "What's in it for Trump?"

 

[alfablue]

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The same NYT article that said "wiretapped" (their bad choice of word?) also said "no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing" when they were (obviously) tapping Russians.

So, either there was no tap (Clapper) and there should be an investigation, or, there was a tap* and it found "no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing".

NYT says there was a tap and nothing conclusive.


*A tap, so somewhere, on something (meaning I'll say not in Trump Tower), which would mean "FISA warrant" (tapping Russians) which would easy for Trump to release (as POTUS), or, there was no FISA warrant for the tap of the Russians (whups).

And?

I don't get your point.

We KNOW that the Russians have been tapped. I'm sure they have been tapped since, well, forever. This can't come as any surprise. I would even suggest that the Soviets/Russians have been tapped for SO LONG that that started prior to the FISA court, and it would not be considered required to go back, since it's been going on forever. Are you really surprised that the Ruskies are monitored?

Here's a better conclusion from this instance- don and his staff are apparently so clueless over intel matters that they don't even think we monitor calls to the Russians. Talk about naïve.

None the less, for whatever intel he wants, don can declassify and release it. Doesn't matter how or when it came.

All in all, the ball is in your court- prove it. And having a NYT article use the word "wiretap*" isn't proof.

 

[Handyman]

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And?

I don't get your point.

We KNOW that the Russians have been tapped. I'm sure they have been tapped since, well, forever. This can't come as any surprise. I would even suggest that the Soviets/Russians have been tapped for SO LONG that that started prior to the FISA court, and it would not be considered required to go back, since it's been going on forever. Are you really surprised that the Ruskies are monitored?

Here's a better conclusion from this instance- don and his staff are apparently so clueless over intel matters that they don't even think we monitor calls to the Russians. Talk about naïve.

None the less, for whatever intel he wants, don can declassify and release it. Doesn't matter how or when it came.

All in all, the ball is in your court- prove it. And having a NYT article use the word "wiretap*" isn't proof.

Well Flynn didnt know and he was a big wig in Intelligence...these people are so clueless it actually hurts my brain to try and think down to their level.