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POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

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Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

There is the belief that an Impeachment, even if unpopular, would be an achor around his next come 2020 if it is timed right. I go back and forth on it. On the one hand I think it might make him a sympathetic figure to some (and tick off some of the voters the Dems need in key states) but on the other hand he will kill all sympathy with his anger tweeting and attacking. I mean it would be the troll move of all troll moves. If he has the reaction he had yesterday to Mueller testifying can you imagine his reaction to Impeachment? He literally might go full Hitler on the bit...

What sucks is Impeachment is the right thing to do. But if it loses you the WH in 2020 is it worth it? That is a question I cant answer no matter how much I think about it.

2 for 2. Handy is on a roll.
 
Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

What sucks is Impeachment is the right thing to do. But if it loses you the WH in 2020 is it worth it? That is a question I cant answer no matter how much I think about it.

And that's exactly why Nancy is in such a sh-t position. This is the ultimate question and perhaps one of the most consequential asked in the last hundred years about our nation.

I give her a very, very wide berth. She knows better than anyone the variables and the consequences. The rest of us are just magpies sitting on a fence.
 
Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

Where I would be upset is not over impeachment which won't lead to Chump's removal by the Senate, but if upon losing re-election there aren't prosecutions of him and the people in his administration. While its true that Ford pardoned Nixon for any and all crimes committed in office, and Chump may do the same for himself, many of Nixon's toadies got sent to the clink for a few years. That absolutely needs to happen in 2021 after the Justice Dept is fumigated of all cult members.
 
Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

There is the belief that an Impeachment, even if unpopular, would be an achor around his neck come 2020 if it is timed right. I go back and forth on it. On the one hand I think it might make him a sympathetic figure to some (and tick off some of the voters the Dems need in key states) but on the other hand he will kill all sympathy with his anger tweeting and attacking. I mean it would be the troll move of all troll moves. If he has the reaction he had yesterday to Mueller testifying can you imagine his reaction to Impeachment? He literally might go full Hitler on the bit...

What sucks is Impeachment is the right thing to do. But if it loses you the WH in 2020 is it worth it? That is a question I cant answer no matter how much I think about it.

I'm a little that way too, but if impeachment loses the WH in 2020, it's a no-brainer for me. There is too much at stake.

Now if the impeachment process causes dump to completely lose it, ensuring a D victory in 2020, that would be excellent. But playing for that knowing impeachment might mobilize R votes is a big risk. Ds should be able to work their azzes off and beat him without impeachment.
 
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Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

There is the belief that an Impeachment, even if unpopular, would be an achor around his neck come 2020 if it is timed right. I go back and forth on it. On the one hand I think it might make him a sympathetic figure to some (and tick off some of the voters the Dems need in key states) but on the other hand he will kill all sympathy with his anger tweeting and attacking. I mean it would be the troll move of all troll moves. If he has the reaction he had yesterday to Mueller testifying can you imagine his reaction to Impeachment? He literally might go full Hitler on the bit...

What sucks is Impeachment is the right thing to do. But if it loses you the WH in 2020 is it worth it? That is a question I cant answer no matter how much I think about it.

Well stated and properly summarizes the conundrum surrounding the great Shakespearean question of the day.
 
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My thinking has been wavering but it comes down to this:

1. We don't know what the electoral effect of pursuing impeachment will be. For every argument that people will feel it wastes time there's an argument that it will catalyze sporadic-voters who finally see the Dems doing something because it's right and not politically calculated.

2. It's right.

For me, 1 makes it a toss-up so 2 is the tiebreaker. If anybody can demonstrate to me that the expected value of pursuing impeachment is negative then there's no tie and I'll be against impeachment. But as long as it's an unknown, let's try doing the right thing for once. It's good for the soul.
 
Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

I thought there was a thread discussing the general topic a while back, but apparently not.

The Feds are resuming the death penalty after 16 years of its absence.
 
Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

My thinking has been wavering but it comes down to this:

1. We don't know what the electoral effect of pursuing impeachment will be. For every argument that people will feel it wastes time there's an argument that it will catalyze sporadic-voters who finally see the Dems doing something because it's right and not politically calculated.

2. It's right.

For me, 1 makes it a toss-up so 2 is the tiebreaker. If anybody can demonstrate to me that the expected value of pursuing impeachment is negative then there's no tie and I'll be against impeachment. But as long as it's an unknown, let's try doing the right thing for once. It's good for the soul.

Good logic. I guess one simplifying part of this is that our mission will be the same regardless: actively pitch in during the campaign.
 
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Did we have a thread about why Hillary lost? That might be fun.
 
Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

Did we have a thread about why Hillary lost? That might be fun.

<img src="https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/triumph.jpeg" height="300" >

There is one now.
 
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This was erroneously reported by the Beeb as Russia pranking Dump by editing the footage. Evidently that did not happen. This was, apparently, completely real.

<img src="https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/07/25/USAT/e447ab92-0b72-4b3e-9cb4-6797dd57e7b5-AP_Trump_8.JPG" height="300"

The eagle has two heads instead of one — a symbol historically tied to empire and dominance. It closely resembles the bird on the Russian coat of arms

...

The right talons, rather than clasping 13 arrows, clutch a set of golf clubs

...

The left talon holds a big wad of cash, too, not an olive branch

...

The stars on the shield are actually hammers & sickles

...

E PLURIBUS UNUM has been replaced by 45 ES UN TITERE, in English, “45 is a puppet”

And because this is the information age...
 
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This was erroneously reported by the Beeb as Russia pranking Dump by editing the footage. Evidently that did not happen. This was, apparently, completely real.

<img src="https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/07/25/USAT/e447ab92-0b72-4b3e-9cb4-6797dd57e7b5-AP_Trump_8.JPG" height="300"



And because this is the information age...

Yep, posted that back about two hours (or is that pages?) ago. Russia TV was laughing at it.

The subtle details are amazing. Golf clubs instead of arrows. Crumpled cash instead of olive branches. Two headed eagle like Russia's bird. "45 is a puppet" in Spanish where the Latin motto would be.
 
Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

Yep, posted that back about two hours (or is that pages?) ago. Russia TV was laughing at it.

The subtle details are amazing. Golf clubs instead of arrows. Crumpled cash instead of olive branches. Two headed eagle like Russia's bird. "45 is a puppet" in Spanish where the Latin motto would be.

Oops, sorry, I see you did. I had read about it originally as a Russian TV prank editing the emblem, not that it was actually on the presentation itself.

Really nice job. Lots of detail and quite professional. And of course perfectly apt for Sh-tler.
 
Oops, sorry, I see you did. I had read about it originally as a Russian TV prank editing the emblem, not that it was actually on the presentation itself.

Really nice job. Lots of detail and quite professional. And of course perfectly apt for Sh-tler.

Eh, I figured it got buried somewhere between rehashing Hillary for the $Texas time and which thumb Pelosi should sit on while not discussing impeachment. :D


I love the plausible deniability:

How this happened remains a mystery. The Post spoke to a White House representative who said officials had not seen the image in advance. A spokesperson for Turning Point USA, meanwhile, told the paper he was stumped as to the origins of the image, characterizing it as “a last-minute A/V mistake”.

“I can’t figure out who did it yet,” the spokesman said, adding that he didn’t know where the image had come from.
And no one from his staff or Turning Point caught it? Everyone decided to let the emperor stand there with no clothes? *chefs kiss*
 
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And that's exactly why Nancy is in such a sh-t position. This is the ultimate question and perhaps one of the most consequential asked in the last hundred years about our nation.

I give her a very, very wide berth. She knows better than anyone the variables and the consequences. The rest of us are just magpies sitting on a fence.

trix is gonna be mad at you ;)
 
Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

Eh, I figured it got buried somewhere between rehashing Hillary for the $Texas time and which thumb Pelosi should sit on while not discussing impeachment. :D


I love the plausible deniability:

And no one from his staff or Turning Point caught it? Everyone decided to let the emperor stand there with no clothes? *chefs kiss*

You assume they would vet things like this? Their arrogance wouldnt allow for it not to mention their laziness.

Has anyone ever tweeted Trump the Russian TV links? I mean the Russians are literally explaining how they are playing him and how he is too stupid to see it. Can you imagine his reaction to see that :eek:
 
Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

And no one from his staff or Turning Point caught it?

It's almost as if they're all morons.

Edit: Also, this may shock us all, but the self-proclaimed super-patriots apparently have no idea what majorly important national symbols and icons are supposed to look like!
 
You assume they would vet things like this? Their arrogance wouldnt allow for it not to mention their laziness.

Has anyone ever tweeted Trump the Russian TV links? I mean the Russians are literally explaining how they are playing him and how he is too stupid to see it. Can you imagine his reaction to see that :eek:

"Look at them talking in Russian, Oooh! I heard my name. Look at that. They respect me. They love me! Now they have video of me! Look Melania, the Russians love me, and can't stop talking about me!"

:D

I also love when Julie Davis points out how Russia1 AND FOX News have identical segments, right down to the B-roll footage.
 
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"Look at them talking in Russian, Oooh! I heard my name. Look at that. They respect me. They love me! Now they have video of me! Look Melania, the Russians love me, and can't stop talking about me!"

:D

I also love when Julie Davis points out how Russia1 AND FOX News have identical segments, right down to the B-roll footage.

Yeah that always makes me smile :D

French,

They only care about American Icons when libruls are burning them or they represent the CSA ;)
 
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