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POTUS 45:53: I Didn't Appoint That Judge So It Doesn't Matter.

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Re: POTUS 45:53: I Didn't Appoint That Judge So It Doesn't Matter.

Cite? Memo form, brief, or what?

I used to write use cases for a living. You never stated IF, you only stated WHEN. You write for situation that will be encountered for the subject at hand. Otherwise, you could write about If a hippopotamus were to have lunged at the person while in the process of committing treason, then we'd have a more entertaining story by far. Sure, but that's not really the subject of why you're writing; you write for when a situation applicable to the specific subject occurs.
 
That's not what Mueller said.

Never mind he'd never refuse a court order.

Kep - I was being somewhat facetious in stating Mueller set up that possible scenario. But I do think he tried to remain as neutral as possible to the naked eye and would not be surprised if they call him in.

Remember that Mueller said today "when" someone obstructs, not "if" someone obstructs. In addition, he said according to the constitution he could not charge a sitting president from the offices of the DOJ.

He wouldn't waste his time clarifying that distinction if he held the opinion Trump wasn't guilty of a crime.
 
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I used to write use cases for a living. You never stated IF, you only stated WHEN. You write for situation that will be encountered for the subject at hand. Otherwise, you could write about If a hippopotamus were to have lunged at the person while in the process of committing treason, then we'd have a more entertaining story by far. Sure, but that's not really the subject of why you're writing; you write for when a situation applicable to the specific subject occurs.

I can appreciate that, but unless I just don't understand, use case writing is not something law-trained attorneys learn. Do you know of law schools or legal departments that teach or follow it?
 
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I can appreciate that, but unless I just don't understand, use case writing is not something law-trained attorneys learn. Do you know of law schools or legal departments that teach or follow it?

It's not as though the notion of writing for positive/negative outcomes of a situation are met is unique to use cases. The law is different in that extenuating circumstances are written as If/Then scenarios in the theoretical, but Mueller was writing about specific situations that actually happened, not in the theoretical. Every commentator I've read has stated that the man was very particular in the language he used. It reminded me of the style that I once had to write, though certainly not as well as he did.
 
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Prove me.

Trump and Bernie win their party nominations. Who do you vote for? Knowing a third party vote is useless.

Game plan for Ds this year: nominate a slight left but still moderate D so they can actually win the election (helps to not be part of a dynasty, part of what did Clinton in). THEN start doing what you want to do.

If they nominate someone like Bernie, many of those swing voters will go third party or independent, and increase the chances of a Trump win. Why? Those that are THAT far left will be label socialists (whether actually true or not) and cause worry among those swing voters. Like it or not, that will happen.

Don't put the cart before the horse, play to the voters that are listening (basically, anyone outside that 35%) and it's a slam dunk win.
 
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Game plan for Ds this year: nominate a slight left but still moderate D so they can actually win the election (helps to not be part of a dynasty, part of what did Clinton in). THEN start doing what you want to do.

If they nominate someone like Bernie, many of those swing voters will go third party or independent, and increase the chances of a Trump win. Why? Those that are THAT far left will be label socialists (whether actually true or not) and cause worry among those swing voters. Like it or not, that will happen.

Don't put the cart before the horse, play to the voters that are listening (basically, anyone outside that 35%) and it's a slam dunk win.

So an eminently qualified, left-of-center (but not too far left) candidate? God I wish we would have thought of that for the 2016 election.
 
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So an eminently qualified, left-of-center (but not too far left) candidate? God I wish we would have thought of that for the 2016 election.

Read the fine print (about the dynasty). We needed another Clinton in office as much as we needed another Bush in office. ;)
 
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That's not what Mueller said.

That is what Nadler (Chair of Judiciary) said Mueller's response was to testifying in open session last week. They were negotiating it and still are. Hell he isnt even sure he will subpoena him and Mueller saying "The Report is My Testimony" pretty much tells us all we need to know about whether he wants to speak in front of Congress unless compelled to.

Slap Shot,

He wouldnt refuse, that doesnt mean he has any interest in answering questions. He will do exactly what Kep said...he will re-iterate what the report says (that which he is allowed to) and will do his best not to speculate under direct questioning. He doesnt want his opinion to be used just the facts. That is why the report is set up the way it is and that is why he kept his trap shut after Barr lied about what the report said. He wants to remain impartial and A-Political, which is kind of impossible when discussing the findings of an investigation on a politician.
 
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Game plan for Ds this year: nominate a slight left but still moderate D so they can actually win the election (helps to not be part of a dynasty, part of what did Clinton in). THEN start doing what you want to do.

If they nominate someone like Bernie, many of those swing voters will go third party or independent, and increase the chances of a Trump win. Why? Those that are THAT far left will be label socialists (whether actually true or not) and cause worry among those swing voters. Like it or not, that will happen.

Don't put the cart before the horse, play to the voters that are listening (basically, anyone outside that 35%) and it's a slam dunk win.

Why will they be labelled socialist? Maybe cause simp rubes like you buy whatever Republicans tell you without doing any sort of critical thinking or information gathering of your own?

Nah, that couldn't be it.
 
So an eminently qualified, left-of-center (but not too far left) candidate? God I wish we would have thought of that for the 2016 election.

Rube just wants a Republican without an 'R' after their name. You know, the Centrist position.

Uncle Joe, we want you.
 
Game plan for Ds this year: nominate a slight left but still moderate D so they can actually win the election (helps to not be part of a dynasty, part of what did Clinton in). THEN start doing what you want to do.

If they nominate someone like Bernie, many of those swing voters will go third party or independent, and increase the chances of a Trump win. Why? Those that are THAT far left will be label socialists (whether actually true or not) and cause worry among those swing voters. Like it or not, that will happen.

Don't put the cart before the horse, play to the voters that are listening (basically, anyone outside that 35%) and it's a slam dunk win.


Does Abe Simpson post here?

“I used to be with ‘it’, but then they changed what ‘it’ was. Now what I’m with isn’t ‘it’ anymore and what’s ‘it’ seems weird and scary. It’ll happen to you!“
 
Re: POTUS 45:53: I Didn't Appoint That Judge So It Doesn't Matter.

President went on full tilt this morning before he hopped on the plane to Colorado to give the commencement at the Air Force Academy.
 
Re: POTUS 45:53: I Didn't Appoint That Judge So It Doesn't Matter.

Why will they be labelled socialist? Maybe cause simp rubes like you buy whatever Republicans tell you without doing any sort of critical thinking or information gathering of your own?

Nah, that couldn't be it.

What a nice mature response. Can I start calling you (D)ufus?

They will be labeled that because the media will label them that, and yes, some will simply accept that, because the media only reports the truth, you know. ;)

As for the (R) without the (R) comment, it appears anything to the right of Bernie is an (R) to you.
 
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What a nice mature response. Can I start calling you (D)ufus?

They will be labeled that because the media will label them that, and yes, some will simply accept that, because the media only reports the truth, you know. ;)

As for the (R) without the (R) comment, it appears anything to the right of Bernie is an (R) to you.

Correct. We have no problem electing a Fascist Dictator but don't ask us to elect anyone who believes in Social Security and Medicare. They're socialists. We don't want that.
 
Re: POTUS 45:53: I Didn't Appoint That Judge So It Doesn't Matter.

Is he sun downing or did he just admit Russia interfered

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Russia, Russia, Russia! That’s all you heard at the beginning of this Witch Hunt Hoax...And now Russia has disappeared because I had nothing to do with Russia helping me to get elected. It was a crime that didn’t exist. So now the Dems and their partner, the Fake News Media,.....</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1134066371510378501?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Re: POTUS 45:53: I Didn't Appoint That Judge So It Doesn't Matter.

Is he sun downing or did he just admit Russia interfered

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Russia, Russia, Russia! That’s all you heard at the beginning of this Witch Hunt Hoax...And now Russia has disappeared because I had nothing to do with Russia helping me to get elected. It was a crime that didn’t exist. So now the Dems and their partner, the Fake News Media,.....</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1134066371510378501?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He said on the Tarmac this morning that the Democrats colluded with Russia to win the election. And, he also stated that the media colluded with the Democrats to win the election. Thus, he overcame the electoral college, Russia, the media, and the Democratic Machine to become our beloved President.
 
What a nice mature response. Can I start calling you (D)ufus?

They will be labeled that because the media will label them that, and yes, some will simply accept that, because the media only reports the truth, you know. ;)

As for the (R) without the (R) comment, it appears anything to the right of Bernie is an (R) to you.

Trump will call the Dem socialist no matter who wins the nomination. The DNC could run Reagan’s head a la Futurama and he’d be called socialist, because the calling card for this election is going to be yelling “Illegal Immigration!” And “Venezuela!” over and over again.
 
Re: POTUS 45:53: I Didn't Appoint That Judge So It Doesn't Matter.

He said on the Tarmac this morning that the Democrats colluded with Russia to win the election. And, he also stated that the media colluded with the Democrats to win the election. Thus, he overcame the electoral college, Russia, the media, and the Democratic Machine to become our beloved President.

25th A, where are you?
 
Re: POTUS 45:53: I Didn't Appoint That Judge So It Doesn't Matter.

Trump will call the Dem socialist no matter who wins the nomination. The DNC could run Reagan’s head a la Futurama and he’d be called socialist, because the calling card for this election is going to be yelling “Illegal Immigration!” And “Venezuela!” over and over again.

I'm just trying to get over how I already live in a socialist state? We have Social Security (with disability no lesss), Medicaid, Medicare. Welfare. This is all bad bad stuff.
 
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