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POTUS 45:52: Not Founded On Anything
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Never mind all the Russian contacts which were under surveillance.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: POTUS 45:52: Not Founded On Anything
He didnt. The fact that you even pretend he did proves you know nothing of the subject.
He didnt. The fact that you even pretend he did proves you know nothing of the subject.
Re: POTUS 45:52: Not Founded On Anything
You're describing the Emperor's clothes, Sic.
You're describing the Emperor's clothes, Sic.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45:52: Not Founded On Anything
Do you think there is support for this contention?
I don't. From what I understand the intel community was deeply concerned about Russian interference in the election but Obama did not do anything about it because McConnell told him if he did he'd crucify him. The fact that there was skulduggery in the Dump campaign is the worst thing that happened. The fact that McConnell told him that is the next worst. The fact that Obama knuckled under is the third worst and while I don't approve of it after the prior 6 years of GOP shenanigans I don't blame him.
Do you think there is support for this contention?
I don't. From what I understand the intel community was deeply concerned about Russian interference in the election but Obama did not do anything about it because McConnell told him if he did he'd crucify him. The fact that there was skulduggery in the Dump campaign is the worst thing that happened. The fact that McConnell told him that is the next worst. The fact that Obama knuckled under is the third worst and while I don't approve of it after the prior 6 years of GOP shenanigans I don't blame him.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
I’d look for something better, which is what we should do. I don’t see another way forward.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45:52: Not Founded On Anything
That's a vote for the status quo. You're waiting, you're not doing. If you want to do then join the bad guys and try to make them good or join the maybe-not-good-but-at-least-not-bad guys and try to make them better.
But if you are going to sit it out you don't get to complain.
That's a vote for the status quo. You're waiting, you're not doing. If you want to do then join the bad guys and try to make them good or join the maybe-not-good-but-at-least-not-bad guys and try to make them better.
But if you are going to sit it out you don't get to complain.
Ok, could you perhaps try applying the analogy to the real world, understanding that your alternative option doesn't exist?
French Rage
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Re: POTUS 45:52: Not Founded On Anything
And the investigations started because Trump's people were communicating with people who were already such big ****ign red flags that anyone talking to them, especially working on a ****ing presidential campaign, is worth attention, and to not do so would be a dereliction of duty. I understand that when one is comically incompetent then basic competence looks like a crazy conspiracy. Sort of how horses and facial hair looked like dragons to the Incans.
And the investigations started because Trump's people were communicating with people who were already such big ****ign red flags that anyone talking to them, especially working on a ****ing presidential campaign, is worth attention, and to not do so would be a dereliction of duty. I understand that when one is comically incompetent then basic competence looks like a crazy conspiracy. Sort of how horses and facial hair looked like dragons to the Incans.
It doesn’t right now, but that doesn’t mean it can’t. There was a day when we had one party rule and within 25 years or so the party didn’t exist any longer. We’re not stuck with our current setup forever.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45:52: Not Founded On Anything
Tax cut for the rich.
Everybody else got f-cked.
Tax cut for the rich.
Everybody else got f-cked.
Re: POTUS 45:52: Not Founded On Anything
Which just says that you are not willing to look and pay attention.
What part of the economy is actually helped by the tax cuts? How many new jobs has that created? What part of the economy and environment are benefiting by all of the roll backs of the regulations? How many new jobs has that added?
We were promised that all of the tax cuts will trickle down, and most of them were used for corporate stock buy backs- I know we have contracted our company since the tax cuts, not expanded.
And the regulation roll backs? How does it help people that coal companies can just put their waste into streams? All that does is make people sick, and now there's a huge push to cut healthcare.
D's have a solid plan for recovery, and, historically, real economic expansion in the last 40 years have always happened when D's were in charge and had ideas.
As for immigration- how is it so helpful that we shun people at our borders? How is it helpful to the US to make people all over the world mad at us because we don't really bother to 1) look into their asylum claims and 2) try to do anything about them? Lets say even 50% of them are true- should we not do something? Perhaps instead of locking people up, we come up with programs to help Central America???
Tax cuts for people who don't need them are not helping. Removing healthcare is hurting. Cutting the border off isn't helping. yet you constantly vote for that path.
And you pretend to care about corruption, but ignore the guy in the white house, as you just want to move on...
There are other ways forward. It's about time you voted with your brain instead of your feelings.
Which just says that you are not willing to look and pay attention.
What part of the economy is actually helped by the tax cuts? How many new jobs has that created? What part of the economy and environment are benefiting by all of the roll backs of the regulations? How many new jobs has that added?
We were promised that all of the tax cuts will trickle down, and most of them were used for corporate stock buy backs- I know we have contracted our company since the tax cuts, not expanded.
And the regulation roll backs? How does it help people that coal companies can just put their waste into streams? All that does is make people sick, and now there's a huge push to cut healthcare.
D's have a solid plan for recovery, and, historically, real economic expansion in the last 40 years have always happened when D's were in charge and had ideas.
As for immigration- how is it so helpful that we shun people at our borders? How is it helpful to the US to make people all over the world mad at us because we don't really bother to 1) look into their asylum claims and 2) try to do anything about them? Lets say even 50% of them are true- should we not do something? Perhaps instead of locking people up, we come up with programs to help Central America???
Tax cuts for people who don't need them are not helping. Removing healthcare is hurting. Cutting the border off isn't helping. yet you constantly vote for that path.
And you pretend to care about corruption, but ignore the guy in the white house, as you just want to move on...
There are other ways forward. It's about time you voted with your brain instead of your feelings.
Re: POTUS 45:52: Not Founded On Anything
Once again, pointing out that this administration isn't qualified to run a country- they are not smart enough to know the obvious.
Once again, pointing out that this administration isn't qualified to run a country- they are not smart enough to know the obvious.
Re: POTUS 45:52: Not Founded On Anything
How about not waiting for someone else to start a third party and do it yourself.
That's all people do is ***** about the two party system and do NOTHING about it.
How about not waiting for someone else to start a third party and do it yourself.
That's all people do is ***** about the two party system and do NOTHING about it.
rufus
rock and roller
How will you ever know if you refuse to even give them a chance?
But you will give the Right chance after chance after chance, no matter how badly they pound you in the ***, without even offering the courtesy of a reacharound.
Re: POTUS 45:52: Not Founded On Anything
"Do you want to be picked up by that stranger, or by that known serial killer?"
"You know, you used to have the option to get pic...*killed by serial killer*"
"Do you want to be picked up by that stranger, or by that known serial killer?"
"You know, you used to have the option to get pic...*killed by serial killer*"
Re: POTUS 45:52: Not Founded On Anything
Not true. We had Republicans and Democrats. Now we have Trumps and Democrats.
Still two parties, but absolutely a different two from 10 years ago. Trump did something about it.
Not true. We had Republicans and Democrats. Now we have Trumps and Democrats.
Still two parties, but absolutely a different two from 10 years ago. Trump did something about it.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Re: POTUS 45:52: Not Founded On Anything
Unfortunately Obama gave Trump some of what he wanted by apparently being quoted in a book that Trump winning felt like a slap in the face.
Unfortunately Obama gave Trump some of what he wanted by apparently being quoted in a book that Trump winning felt like a slap in the face.
rufus
rock and roller
Would this be before or after Webster's Dad drunkenly bragged to the Aussie diplomat about all their great contacts and relationships with Russia?
Are you saying we should not engage in counter-intelligence operations if we believe a person or persons may be either co-opted by, or actively working for an Enemy intelligence service?
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