POTUS 45.5 - Sweden is Under Attack

[ScoobyDoo]

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That may not matter. The DOJ mostly operates as a check on the strong's abuse of the weak. This administration has already shown it doesn't care about that. If the Republican mission were to be summed up in one sentence, it would be "To harm the weak."

And isn't protecting the weak the entire point of The Constitution? And isn't that what the right harps on over and over and over again. Oops, there I go again. Trying to point out a logical fallacy when logical fallacies are irrelevant to the GOP, Conservatives, and the American People.

*sigh*

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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Where in that link does it say anything about organized crime?

To be fair, I think we all recall the huge outcry and hundreds of stories and national headlines when it was revealed that Hunter Biden was named to the Board (and as chief counsel) of Ukranian gas giant, Burisma, along with Sec. State Kerry's son's college roommate and best friend, Devon Archer, the man who is also responsible for overseeing the Kerry family's vast Ketchup fortune. Burisma, of course was founded and controlled by a guy named Mykola Zlochevsky who was then Ukranian President, now exile in Russia, Viktor Yanukovych's chief energy minister and and security council chair. That those board appointments came within days of Uncle Joe announcing an additional $50 million in aid to Ukraine to help them achieve energy independence from Russia certainly had the ethics watchdogs up in arms:

The head of a watchdog group on government ethics said there was no inherent conflict in Biden's job.
"It can't be that because your dad is the vice president, you can't do anything," said Melanie Sloan, executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.

Financial conflict of interest laws and regulations for government officials do not apply to the president and vice president, explained Richard Painter, who was chief ethics lawyer for former Republican President George W. Bush from 2005 until 2007.
Even if they did apply, the laws do not extend to the financial interests of officials' grown children, he said.
"It's very clear the statute does not cover this, even if the statute applied to the vice president," said Painter, now at the University of Minnesota Law School.
Regulations do require government officials to recuse themselves on decisions where their family members are a party, or representing a party, he said.
In any case, Painter said he does not believe that Biden, who plays a central foreign policy role at the White House, should step back from working on issues affecting energy in Ukraine for appearance's sake.

Remember all that?

Yeah, me neither.

Which isn't to say any or all of it isn't potentially shady, but there does seem to be some pretty differing approaches to how this stuff has been assessed and covered.

 

[mookie1995]

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It's going to be tough for the Justice Department to operate with their leader having zero credibility. I don't think that office survives that.

puhleeze

 

[Kepler]

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And isn't protecting the weak the entire point of The Constitution? And isn't that what the right harps on over and over and over again. Oops, there I go again. Trying to point out a logical fallacy when logical fallacies are irrelevant to the GOP, Conservatives, and the American People.

*sigh*

We are seeing the clash of two theories of government. The traditional left and right see government as a social contract where we put ourselves under a set of mutually agreed-upon laws so neither a majority nor a strong minority can harm other members. The new fascist right sees government as a militarized police force protecting the owning elite from potential rebellion by their slaves.

 

[alfablue]

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It will have to. The pressure is mounting. He didn't want to fire the last guy that lied either.

Lest we forget, if it was true that Sessions met with any Ruskies, he clearly committed perjury during the confirmation hearing. Heard the statement a few times this morning on NPR.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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We are seeing the clash of two theories of government. The traditional left and right see government as a social contract where we put ourselves under a set of mutually agreed-upon laws so neither a majority nor a strong minority can harm other members. The new fascist right sees government as a militarized police force protecting the owning elite from potential rebellion by their slaves.

I just find it amazing that the vast majority of elites and their mindless followers think that's ok. It's staggering.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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We are seeing the clash of two theories of government. The traditional left and right see government as a social contract where we put ourselves under a set of mutually agreed-upon laws so neither a majority nor a strong minority can harm other members. The new fascist right sees government as a militarized police force protecting the owning elite from potential rebellion by their slaves.

Funny thing, most of the corporate shills that believe in the latter voted for Clinton. Guess where all the Goldman-Sachs campaign contributions went... I'll give you a hint, it wasn't Trump...

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Lest we forget, if it was true that Sessions met with any Ruskies, he clearly committed perjury during the confirmation hearing. Heard the statement a few times this morning on NPR.

Once again, the part about "during the campaign" is conveniently left out. Report all of the facts, fake news.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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But Trump has gone from criticizing Wall Street and Goldman Sachs to hiring Goldman veterans to help him govern. Trump's two biggest economic hires are Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, a former Goldman Sachs partner, and top economic adviser Gary Cohn, who stepped down in December as chief operating officer of Goldman Sachs.

Analysts say those hires may actually be helping Goldman stock.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/14/investing/goldman-sachs-stock-record-high-dodd-frank/index.html

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/14/investing/goldman-sachs-stock-record-high-dodd-frank/index.html

Funny thing is, Trump believes them to be globalist "defectors". Whether it's true or not, we'll see. Of course, all you see is the name of the company, and want to start attacking.

 

[Rover]

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Everybody who didn't vote because you thought there'd be no difference between a Trump administration and a Clinton one, please raise your hand.

 

[Kepler]

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I just find it amazing that the vast majority of elites and their mindless followers think that's ok. It's staggering.

I get the 1% thinking it. They benefit, and they have by and large been raised in isolation and indoctrinated that they deserve their status. I went to school with them; I know them.

The folks who I can't understand are the willing slaves. There seems to be a personality trait on the right which craves authority. They would rather lose their freedom but feel they are safe than have their freedom but have to face every new day knowing it's all up to them, Santa isn't coming down that chimney.

This explains the spectacular projection by Flag et. al. where they correctly identify the situation -- an elite working actively to pen them in and control them -- but then run and lap at their master's shoes trying to insinuate themselves into his good graces, and growl and sputter at those who are actually trying to save freedom.

It's Stockholm Syndrome writ large as the entire Republican voter base.

 

[mookie1995]

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Lest we forget, if it was true that Sessions met with any Ruskies, he clearly committed perjury during the confirmation hearing. Heard the statement a few times this morning on NPR.

he qualified his answer as not being a surrogate of the campaign.

bs way of not having sex with that woman.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Everybody who didn't vote because you thought there'd be no difference between a Trump administration and a Clinton one, please raise your hand.

Although I voted, the parties are certainly reason why I went Johnson. I'll still support the President because he is the national representation, but I learned well enough from 2010 not to make the mistake of cow-towing to the establishment GOP.

 

[mookie1995]

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Everybody who didn't vote because you thought there'd be no difference between a Trump administration and a Clinton one, please raise your hand.

mookie is sure that there would have been a domestic terror shoot up or 2 already if she won so far we just have jewish tombstones tipped and some lines drawn on signs.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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mookie is sure that there would have been a domestic terror shoot up or 2 already if she won so far we just have jewish tombstones tipped and some lines drawn on signs.

Don't forget the riots in the streets of cities with a left-wing mayor ordering the police to stand down, and then begging for rebuild money.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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he qualified his answer as not being a surrogate of the campaign.

bs way of not having sex with that woman.

Clinton went down for that. Are we saying Sessions won't? Even though he wasn't convicted having the Government vote on impeachment and losing his law license was major. It also crippled his Presidency.

Are we saying now that Sessions wouldn't have the same happen to him?

Also, I would argue (as I have in the past) that lying about sex and lying about treason are two different things.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Clinton went down for that. Are we saying Sessions won't? Even though he wasn't convicted having the Government vote on impeachment and losing his law license was major. It also crippled his Presidency.

Are we saying now that Sessions wouldn't have the same happen to him?

Also, I would argue (as I have in the past) that lying about sex and lying about treason are two different things.

Since when is Russia our enemy? To take a word from Obama, the 80's called; they want their foreign policy back.

 

[mookie1995]

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treason?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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treason?

If you're involved in fixing the American election process with a foreign government, then yes, you are committing treason.

The evidence is piling up. Even if it didn't "effect" the outcome it's still treason.