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POTUS 45.5 - Sweden is Under Attack

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/17/fact-check-trump-news-conference/98009514/

More lies. These are from last week. Once a liar always a liar.

• Trump said that the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which unanimously decided not to reinstate Trump’s travel ban, has had its rulings overturned by the Supreme Court “at a record number.” Not true.

• Trump wrongly said that Hillary Clinton “gave” Russia 20% of the uranium in the United States. Clinton was one of nine votes approving the deal. She alone couldn’t have stopped the deal, which involved 20% of U.S. production capacity, not stocks, and the uranium can’t go to Russia without export licenses.

• The president claimed his November victory was “the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan.” It wasn’t. Three presidents since Reagan captured a larger share of electoral votes than Trump did, including Republican George H.W. Bush.

• Trump said “jobs have already started to surge” since his election, citing investments by Ford, Fiat Chrysler and Intel. But the investments, much of which were in the works before the election, were largely market driven.

• Contrary to the president’s claim that “nobody mentions that Hillary received the questions to the debates,” there was plenty of press coverage in October when it was revealed that former CNN contributor Donna Brazile shared several questions with the Clinton campaign during the primary election.

• Trump said he thought the media had “a lower approval rate than Congress.” No — the public’s approval of Congress is lower than its trust in the media.
 
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What doesn't he "understand"? I want to read this from you. Turnabout is fair play when it comes to "allowed sources".

And who's to say it's knowingly bearing false witness?

So, he's not lying, because he honestly thinks he's really smart even though he isn't? Got it. Here's an easier one for you, Trump says "I love golf, I think it's one of the greats, but I don't have time". At least six rounds into his presidency it would seem that was bearing false witness, as you'd put it.
 
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9th circuit: Absolutely true; the majority of their rulings are overturned. Show me who is higher.

Uranium: She could have still said no. She didn't. Therefore she did give it to them without dissent.

Electoral college: Something tells me there's a misquoting happening; show me where that's said.

Market driven: Market's been further going up with Trump bringing confidence to the market, despite Cuban stating otherwise.

Questions: Let's see the clip where they talk about it.

Approval rating: Once again, cooked polls. Let's see the numbers.

Next?
 
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So, he's not lying, because he honestly thinks he's really smart even though he isn't? Got it. Here's an easier one for you, Trump says "I love golf, I think it's one of the greats, but I don't have time". At least six rounds into his presidency it would seem that was bearing false witness, as you'd put it.

When has he golfed? In all seriousness, he didn't even have time during the elect period. You must be mistaking for Obama again.
 
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9th circuit: Absolutely true; the majority of their rulings are overturned. Show me who is higher.

Uranium: She could have still said no. She didn't. Therefore she did give it to them without dissent.

Electoral college: Something tells me there's a misquoting happening; show me where that's said.

Market driven: Market's been further going up with Trump bringing confidence to the market, despite Cuban stating otherwise.

Questions: Let's see the clip where they talk about it.

Approval rating: Once again, cooked polls. Let's see the numbers.

Next?

Wrong.

http://www.factcheck.org/2017/02/factchecking-trumps-news-conference/
 
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9th circuit: Absolutely true; the majority of their rulings are overturned. Show me who is higher.

The 6th and 11th circuits have higher overturn rates: http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...-circuit-isnt-most-overturned-court-country-/

And the majority of their cases that are reviewed are overturned. Those that are reviewed are only a small fraction of the total number of cases/rulings. All of the circuit courts range from 40% overturned to 60% overturned meaning (and I'm making a minor assumption that those around 40% don't throw the weighting off) that a majority of those heard by SCOTUS are overturned across the board, regardless of which circuit they come from. It shouldn't come as a shock that if SCOTUS is going to take time to hear something, there's a good chance it's something they might feel the need to overturn.
 
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The site doesn't even have a Trump quote about the Electoral college..

The president claimed his November victory was “the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan.” It wasn’t. Three presidents since Reagan captured a larger share of electoral votes than Trump did, including Republican George H.W. Bush.

Learn to read.
 
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When has he golfed? In all seriousness, he didn't even have time during the elect period. You must be mistaking for Obama again.

Yesterday for starters, if you want to believe White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders, or Rory McIlroy, who says the drumpster made it around in "around 80".
 
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Learn to read.

And here's the WH transcript, in case Flaggy believes that a third-party misquoted him: https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/02/16/remarks-president-trump-press-conference

I’m here following through on what I pledged to do. That's all I’m doing. I put it out before the American people. Got 306 Electoral College votes. I wasn’t supposed to get 222. They said there’s no way to get 222; 230 is impossible. Two hundred and seventy, which you need, that was laughable. We got 306 because people came out and voted like they've never seen before. So that's the way it goes. I guess it was the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan.

And of course it's not even close. 5 of the 7 election winners since Reagan had more than 306, only W did not in both of his elections.
 
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When has he golfed? In all seriousness, he didn't even have time during the elect period. You must be mistaking for Obama again.

Christ, he went golfing with Abe, you frickin' mush-brained idiot.
 
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The site doesn't even have a Trump quote about the Electoral college. It's also using different year-length comparisons for the court overrulings. And you're trying to justify Clinton being given questions and tips vs. Trump by referencing a different debate setting. Try again.

Dude he said it at the press conference. He was flat out fact checked by an NBC reporter and had to backtrack twice about it.

Here is An Article With the Video

Amazing things happen when you stop watching youtube you absolute horrorshow...
 
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My question was going to be: is that by percent or gross numbers?

I can't really glean that from the story because it doesn't give all the numbers for all the circuits.

I'm guessing it's by percent since they, you know, list the percents and all. 9th circuit would probably win in gross numbers given how large the 9th circuit court is. And measuring their quality based on gross numbers instead of percents would be moronic.
 
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I'm guessing it's by percent since they, you know, list the percents and all. 9th circuit would probably win in gross numbers given how large the 9th circuit court is. And measuring their quality based on gross numbers instead of percents would be moronic.

You missed the point of my question, but speculated at what the numbers are not there to determine:

The 9th may not be most overturned by percent, but by shear case volume may be "most overturned".


< comment here about lies, ****ed lies, and statistics >
 
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You missed the point of my question, but speculated at what the numbers are not there to determine:

The 9th may not be most overturned by percent, but by shear case volume may be "most overturned".


< comment here about lies, ****ed lies, and statistics >

Yes, I'm sure Trump knew all of those details and it was a simple case of misspeaking, that must be it. Uhhuh. Sure.
 
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You missed the point of my question, but speculated at what the numbers are not there to determine:

The 9th may not be most overturned by percent, but by shear case volume may be "most overturned".


< comment here about lies, ****ed lies, and statistics >

Any person with any intelligence knows exactly what Trump meant and that it's exactly Bull****. This splitting of hairs and parsing of data is pointless.
 
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Looks like Milo's days at Breitbart are numbered...
 
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