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POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College

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ScoobyDoo said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mexico was going to pay for the wall<br>Mexico was going to pay for the wall<br>Mexico was going to pay for the wall<br>Mexico was going to pay for the wall...</p>— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) <a href="https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1096168437066412032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 14, 2019</a></blockquote>
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MinnesotaNorthStar said:
He never said Mexico was going flat out pay for it.

Well, except for all the times he did, obviously
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Get ready for him to say the Mexicans did pay for it.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
And from the Right Right Wing.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tomorrow will be the first day that President Trump will have a fully operational confirmed Attorney General. Let that sink in. Mueller will be gone soon.</p>— Matt Schlapp (@mschlapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/1096180928420950017?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 14, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Schlappy is so fcking clueless, it's pathetic. :D
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Shots fired.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We’re tired of being governed by chaos. The Congress has spoken on a bipartisan basis. Not getting what you want to fulfill a campaign promise/chant is not a national emergency.</p>— Amy Klobuchar (@amyklobuchar) <a href="https://twitter.com/amyklobuchar/status/1096218571003310080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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This is the stuff she is good at.
 
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burd said:
Get ready for him to say the Mexicans did pay for it.
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Shortly followed by every news organization filing an FOIA request for proof.

French Rage said:
Nothing says "national emergency" like going to Florida to golf: https://twitter.com/CivMilAir/status/1096152298064146435
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It's a good thing he isn't a paramedic with how quickly he reacts to "emergencies". He'd take you to a hospital 2 hours away instead of the one across the street while you're having a heart atack...driving the speed limit.

"It's OK, it's OK...I give the best CPR. Nobody CPR's as good as I do."
 
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The Rube said:
Oddly enough, I think this is part of his whole plan. When his declaration gets shut down, he can blame the swamp. Not his fault. He tried to get that wall built.
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One thing for sure: if it comes down to a SCOTUS review of his authority to use emergency powers and to appropriate funds the way he is promising, Kavanaugh will back him, no matter what.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"Me, I'm a small government conservative. You know, the kind who supports the president bypassing congress to order the military to build a wall in front of his child concentration camps."</p>— Lincoln Michel (@TheLincoln) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheLincoln/status/1096163605651824642?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 14, 2019</a></blockquote>
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burd said:
One thing for sure: if it comes down to a SCOTUS review of his authority to use emergency powers and to appropriate funds the way he is promising, Kavanaugh will back him, no matter what.
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Kavanaugh, Alito, and Thomas will do whatever the GOP tells them to.
 
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alfablue said:
So are you suggesting that what dumpy is doing is ok, and the things the D's want to do is not?

As far as I can see, national health care IS a national emergency- unlike the theoretical people harmed by immigrants, the fact that we don't have national healthcare is clearly leading to more early deaths- our life expectancy has dropped, and is going in the opposite direction to other developed countries.

Poverty, for sure, causes premature death. So there's a national emergency. Direct funds there.

Climate change kills people- ask people recovering from hurricanes or fires... direct funds there.

And guns kill people- more people are killed by guns than immigrants. Direct funds to deal with that.
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Where did I say it was ok? I think I've been pretty clear on this board that I oppose executive orders or any other sort of unilateral action by the President to just decide what the law is or should be. This is no different. I was simply responding to some posters here who were gleefully looking into the future, and before they rubbed themselves raw I wanted to throw a little cold water their way by reminding them that whatever sort of "national emergencies" they want their President to implement in 2021, there still are the constitutional constraints, and the practical constraints of "where is the money actually going to come from."
 
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Spartanforlife4 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Trying to use the 25th Amendment to try and circumvent the Election is a despicable act of unconstitutional power grabbing...which happens in third world countries. You have to obey the law. This is an attack on our system & Constitution.” Alan Dershowitz. <a href="https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TuckerCarlson</a></p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1096246820097966080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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So it's unconstitutional to use an amendment of the constitution, yet we're literally supporting the ousting of another state's president due to the constitution of that country. I suppose that's why the third-world part got thrown in there, but that is quite the pretzel to twist oneself in. Though I should know by now to stop trying to rationalize the hypocrisy.
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Apparently NO ONE reads the Constitution. Mostly the Republicans.
 
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SJHovey said:
Where did I say it was ok? I think I've been pretty clear on this board that I oppose executive orders or any other sort of unilateral action by the President to just decide what the law is or should be. This is no different. I was simply responding to some posters here who were gleefully looking into the future, and before they rubbed themselves raw I wanted to throw a little cold water their way by reminding them that whatever sort of "national emergencies" they want their President to implement in 2021, there still are the constitutional constraints, and the practical constraints of "where is the money actually going to come from."
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You mean like when the Republicans jizzed themselves when they got Gorsuch on the Court?

You reap what you sow. Republicans are setting precedent that will not be undone.
 
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https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019/politics/trump-team-russia-then-now/

How Team Trump keeps changing its story in the Russia investigation

Over the past two years, President Donald Trump and his team have offered changing accounts regarding key matters in the Russia investigation. Their denials have been debunked, Trump has contradicted his senior aides and sometimes his team has completely flipped its position.

Special counsel Robert Mueller is investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election along with potential collusion between Trump’s campaign and the Russian government. So far, six Trump associates have been charged, but nobody has been implicated in collusion. Trump adamantly denies collusion.

Public contradictions, walkbacks and flip-flops have become a hallmark of how Trump’s team has responded to the Russia probe, which was launched in 2016 and is now in its third year.

Here are the most consequential examples of Team Trump changing its story.
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Did any Trump campaign aides have contacts with Russia?

Then - No. There weren’t any.
Now - Yes. There were many.

Did anyone on the Trump campaign collude with Russia?

Then - There was no collusion whatsoever.
Now - Trump himself didn’t collude.

What was the purpose of the Trump Tower meeting?

Then - To discuss Russian adoptions.
Now - To get dirt on Hillary Clinton.

Did Trump draft the misleading Trump Tower meeting statement?

Then - Nope. He wasn’t even involved.
Now - Yes. He dictated the statement.

Why did Trump fire Comey?

Then - Because of the Clinton email investigation.
Now - Because of the Russia investigation.

Did Trump tell Comey to go easy on Flynn?

Then - Absolutely not.
Now - It's Possible.

Will Trump agree to an interview with Mueller?

Then - He wants to do it.
Now - Zero Chance.

Can a sitting US president obstruct justice?

Then - No.
Now - Possibly.

How do Trump’s lawyers view Mueller?

Then - He’s a respected and focused investigator.
Now - He’s a corrupt partisan on a witch hunt.

Is Trump going to pardon Manafort?

Then - It’s not being considered.
Now - It’s still on the table.

Does Trump have any business ties to Russia?

Then - Trump has nothing to do with Russia.
Now - Trump pursued Russia deals through 2016.

When did discussions end for Trump Tower Moscow?

Then - January 2016 before the primaries.
Now - Possibly as late as November 2016.

Did Trump sign a letter of intent for Trump Tower Moscow?

Then - No he didn't.
Now - Yes he did.

How does Trump view campaign aides under Russia scrutiny?

Then - They’re the best of the best.
Now - They’re irrelevant nobodies.

What does Trump think of Cohen?

Then - He’s a trusted attorney.
Now - He is a desperate liar.
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Totally the acts of a camp full innocent people.
 
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Nah just ask drew. Only reason things are happening is because of Obama judges. Time to end the witch hunt
 
SJHovey said:
Where did I say it was ok? I think I've been pretty clear on this board that I oppose executive orders or any other sort of unilateral action by the President to just decide what the law is or should be. This is no different. I was simply responding to some posters here who were gleefully looking into the future, and before they rubbed themselves raw I wanted to throw a little cold water their way by reminding them that whatever sort of "national emergencies" they want their President to implement in 2021, there still are the constitutional constraints, and the practical constraints of "where is the money actually going to come from."
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Well, there's $200 billion or more sitting in the Pentagon budget.
 
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SJHovey said:
Where did I say it was ok? I think I've been pretty clear on this board that I oppose executive orders or any other sort of unilateral action by the President to just decide what the law is or should be.
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So what will Trump have to do that will cause you to support any other realistic choice for president?
 
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5mn_Major said:
So what will Trump have to do that will cause you to support any other realistic choice for president?
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I didn't vote for Trump when he ran in 2016, and I certainly have no intention of voting for him in any other election.
 
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