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POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College
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Personally I hope the dems fund their emergencies by taxing the living hell out of churches
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College
I do believe there are limits in how the money shifts can be performed, but I'm unsure of exactly what those restrictions are.
Either way, it's a horrible idea and no side should be excited by it or the possible downstream ramifications.
I do believe there are limits in how the money shifts can be performed, but I'm unsure of exactly what those restrictions are.
Either way, it's a horrible idea and no side should be excited by it or the possible downstream ramifications.
Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College
Sure. But that's partly my point. If a President wants to find $4-5 billion, no big deal. He can find it easily. But the wish list that lefties are now ejaculating over that they think they'll get in January 2021 is going to be a slightly bigger shift of funds.
Sure. But that's partly my point. If a President wants to find $4-5 billion, no big deal. He can find it easily. But the wish list that lefties are now ejaculating over that they think they'll get in January 2021 is going to be a slightly bigger shift of funds.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College
Yes. That makes sense. They've been political all along. Their exemption does not seem warranted anymore.
Yes. That makes sense. They've been political all along. Their exemption does not seem warranted anymore.
Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College
It is a stupid idea. It shouldn't be done, unless there are real emergencies.
But declaring national emergencies doesn't install full dictatorial powers on the president like some here and elsewhere seem to suggest, the power to just levy taxes at will and spend whatever amount of money he or she wants.
It is a stupid idea. It shouldn't be done, unless there are real emergencies.
But declaring national emergencies doesn't install full dictatorial powers on the president like some here and elsewhere seem to suggest, the power to just levy taxes at will and spend whatever amount of money he or she wants.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
You don’t sound frightened at all.
rufus
rock and roller
Such a pressing emergency, its been going on for two months with nothing being done about it.
Yeah, that's gonna hold up in court
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College
Comes nowhere near the rights ejaculation when Merrick Garland's nomination was ignored. You reap what you ****ing sow.
Comes nowhere near the rights ejaculation when Merrick Garland's nomination was ignored. You reap what you ****ing sow.
trixR4kids
Well-known member
Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College
A national emergency for an actual crisis like climate change vs a manufactured "crisis" along the border... what could possibly be the difference?
A national emergency for an actual crisis like climate change vs a manufactured "crisis" along the border... what could possibly be the difference?
He would be if the Black Muslim did this
French Rage
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Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College
Tweet for anything: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/535441553079431168
Tweet for anything: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/535441553079431168
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Repubs must not allow Pres Obama to subvert the Constitution of the US for his own benefit & because he is unable to negotiate w/ Congress.</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/535441553079431168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 20, 2014</a></blockquote>
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****ing Wow.
Do as I say, not as I do. Republicans love hypocrisy. They're married to it. All the time. But, us liberals treat them like the snowflakes they are so they can't vote for us. Oh, boo, hoo.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Repubs must not allow Pres Obama to subvert the Constitution of the US for his own benefit & because he is unable to negotiate w/ Congress.</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/535441553079431168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 20, 2014</a></blockquote>
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****ing Wow.
Do as I say, not as I do. Republicans love hypocrisy. They're married to it. All the time. But, us liberals treat them like the snowflakes they are so they can't vote for us. Oh, boo, hoo.
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College
It's ignoring another piece of the Constitution for "I wanna I wanna I wanna!"
It's the precedent from “No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law" to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If that's something that can be ignored for a (self created) emergency what isn't? You give politicians a tool, they'll use it.
It's ignoring another piece of the Constitution for "I wanna I wanna I wanna!"
It's the precedent from “No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law" to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If that's something that can be ignored for a (self created) emergency what isn't? You give politicians a tool, they'll use it.
Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College
So are you suggesting that what dumpy is doing is ok, and the things the D's want to do is not?
As far as I can see, national health care IS a national emergency- unlike the theoretical people harmed by immigrants, the fact that we don't have national healthcare is clearly leading to more early deaths- our life expectancy has dropped, and is going in the opposite direction to other developed countries.
Poverty, for sure, causes premature death. So there's a national emergency. Direct funds there.
Climate change kills people- ask people recovering from hurricanes or fires... direct funds there.
And guns kill people- more people are killed by guns than immigrants. Direct funds to deal with that.
So are you suggesting that what dumpy is doing is ok, and the things the D's want to do is not?
As far as I can see, national health care IS a national emergency- unlike the theoretical people harmed by immigrants, the fact that we don't have national healthcare is clearly leading to more early deaths- our life expectancy has dropped, and is going in the opposite direction to other developed countries.
Poverty, for sure, causes premature death. So there's a national emergency. Direct funds there.
Climate change kills people- ask people recovering from hurricanes or fires... direct funds there.
And guns kill people- more people are killed by guns than immigrants. Direct funds to deal with that.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College
While I'm sure this news will cause every Bernout social media to jizz themselves, I really think this should be challenged in the courts first. What's stopping Donald from taking this further with nutjobs like Pence and Miller whispering in his ear?
And you folks all sound waaaaaay overconfident about this.
While I'm sure this news will cause every Bernout social media to jizz themselves, I really think this should be challenged in the courts first. What's stopping Donald from taking this further with nutjobs like Pence and Miller whispering in his ear?
And you folks all sound waaaaaay overconfident about this.
Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College
BTW, watching the replay of Maddow last night, the whole Russia thing is getting deeper and deeper. The pattern is consistent that Mueller is winning at every point. Mueller, a long time Republican, one should note.
And for the haters, don't forget that many of these people said in a court of law that they did break the law. Including Manafort. He's just dumb enough to violate his agreement, so it's likely he will spend the rest of his life in jail. Or dumpy will let him go, which means he'll have to head to russia to get asylum.
So don't forget the bigger picture. There is a russian agent behind all of this.
BTW, watching the replay of Maddow last night, the whole Russia thing is getting deeper and deeper. The pattern is consistent that Mueller is winning at every point. Mueller, a long time Republican, one should note.
And for the haters, don't forget that many of these people said in a court of law that they did break the law. Including Manafort. He's just dumb enough to violate his agreement, so it's likely he will spend the rest of his life in jail. Or dumpy will let him go, which means he'll have to head to russia to get asylum.
So don't forget the bigger picture. There is a russian agent behind all of this.
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College
I'd imagine Pelosi will do the vote to end the emergency first and when McConnell sits and spins on it then people and states with standing will start filing lawsuits. Hopefully it gets bogged down and Trump is voted out before the Supreme Court rules on it because I don't trust them not to narrowly hand Trump a win like Bush v. Gore where "it only applies here"
I'd imagine Pelosi will do the vote to end the emergency first and when McConnell sits and spins on it then people and states with standing will start filing lawsuits. Hopefully it gets bogged down and Trump is voted out before the Supreme Court rules on it because I don't trust them not to narrowly hand Trump a win like Bush v. Gore where "it only applies here"
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College
Of course it’ll be struck down in the courts. But if it isn’t, that’s when the party starts.
Of course it’ll be struck down in the courts. But if it isn’t, that’s when the party starts.
Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College
Does a court of law get a chance to review the alleged factual basis of a declaration of emergency, as opposed to the constitutional authority to use if for its stated purpose? I have to think Dems would welcome a review of the factual basis, assuming that would occur in federal district court.
uno?
Does a court of law get a chance to review the alleged factual basis of a declaration of emergency, as opposed to the constitutional authority to use if for its stated purpose? I have to think Dems would welcome a review of the factual basis, assuming that would occur in federal district court.
uno?
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