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POTUS 45:47: I Never Said There Was No Collusion!

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Is the GOP that lockstep behind the wall? They voted for the CR back in December pretty easily. This clean 3-week CR actually offers them the perfect way out; they get credit for re-opening the government by voting for it; but they can pretend they didn't capitulate by making it temporary, thus getting to pretend they're keeping their shot at the wall open. And the fact that it stands a chance in hell of passing the House, unlike the wall bill, makes them appear productive.

From what I heard today, they said some conservatives were not happy with the Russian Asset's concessions to the Dems. Whether that included conservative senators, I'm not sure.
 
Re: POTUS 45:47: I Never Said There Was No Collusion!

I’m wondering which vote takes place first. I would think that would tell us the strategery in play here.
 
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Normally I would agree but in this case no. First of all the second the Dems give any ground, even in the abstract, they lose. The biggest knock on Dems is they worry too much about what people think which makes them look weak. Right now they dont look weak but if they float even a small concession, even just on paper, Trump will flip the narrative. Not to mention they will find some way to use funds by not calling it tax dollars or something...

Stay the course. This is a winner just like Health Care was in November. This was his signature issue, he promised and couldnt deliver it even with GOP in complete control. He went all in on the shutdown and has a losing hand in the game...bankrupt him and do it in humiliating fashion. Make sure he is smarting from the loss (and he is) so the next time he tries to negotiate in bad faith (like he did previously with DACA and is doing now) you can laugh and walk away and he has to capitulate.

I think you’ve absolutely nailed it here. The line in the sand is $0 for the wall. NONE.

Because you’re dead on with the messaging and how trump will spin it. And actually, he wouldn’t be wrong. Any concession is a win. **** that.
 
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The other thing is, no matter if the Russian Asset makes concessions, you can't take him at his word that he'll follow through. Tomorrow, he'll be on twitter saying "no deal".

And now you look weak for giving in to him.
 
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Points for creativity

“A Republican state lawmaker in Arizona has introduced a bill that would tax porn to fund President Trump's proposed border wall by making all electronics automatically block porn unless users pay a fee.”

Some derp tried that in ND last legislative session. Basically the bill said if the device could access the internet (has an IP address) you had to either guarantee porn blocking or pay the fee.

And then someone asked ... doesn't my lake home thermostat that connects to WiFi so I can control it from wherever have an IP address ...

Bill. Dead.
 
Some derp tried that in ND last legislative session. Basically the bill said if the device could access the internet (has an IP address) you had to either guarantee porn blocking or pay the fee.

And then someone asked ... doesn't my lake home thermostat that connects to WiFi so I can control it from wherever have an IP address ...

Bill. Dead.

I’m sure there’s a good 69 joke there somewhere for the thermostat
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The criticism I am hearing from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/davos?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#davos</a> delegates is NOT that <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realDonaldTrump</a> is not attending <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WEF2019?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WEF2019</a>, It’s that there are NO members of his delegation here.<br>60 nations with government represention & the US is not one of them <a href="https://t.co/jNga1yN4bZ">https://t.co/jNga1yN4bZ</a></p>— Stephanie Ruhle (@SRuhle) <a href="https://twitter.com/SRuhle/status/1087728559529984000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The criticism I am hearing from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/davos?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#davos</a> delegates is NOT that <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realDonaldTrump</a> is not attending <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WEF2019?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WEF2019</a>, It’s that there are NO members of his delegation here.<br>60 nations with government represention & the US is not one of them <a href="https://t.co/jNga1yN4bZ">https://t.co/jNga1yN4bZ</a></p>— Stephanie Ruhle (@SRuhle) <a href="https://twitter.com/SRuhle/status/1087728559529984000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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#### him.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The criticism I am hearing from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/davos?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#davos</a> delegates is NOT that <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realDonaldTrump</a> is not attending <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WEF2019?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WEF2019</a>, It’s that there are NO members of his delegation here.<br>60 nations with government represention & the US is not one of them <a href="https://t.co/jNga1yN4bZ">https://t.co/jNga1yN4bZ</a></p>— Stephanie Ruhle (@SRuhle) <a href="https://twitter.com/SRuhle/status/1087728559529984000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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gov shutdown.... whataya want?!!? :eek:

:p
 
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The other thing is, no matter if the Russian Asset makes concessions, you can't take him at his word that he'll follow through. Tomorrow, he'll be on twitter saying "no deal".

And now you look weak for giving in to him.

"but you promised!!!!"

WRONG

"you told us you'd do it!!!!"

WRONG

:D
 
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Use it and pray.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BUILD A WALL & CRIME WILL FALL! This is the new theme, for two years until the Wall is finished (under construction now), of the Republican Party. Use it and pray!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1088058134713823233?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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I don't think so. I think we should have sent someone. I wouldn't send the Prez or the VP but someone should be there.
The forum is basically just a bunch of billionaires pretending to take action to solve problems that they've spent their whole life creating/exacerbating. Sending some Republican there isn't going to help.
 
Re: POTUS 45:47: I Never Said There Was No Collusion!

The forum is basically just a bunch of billionaires pretending to take action to solve problems that they've spent their whole life creating/exacerbating. Sending some Republican there isn't going to help.

Fair enough. I keep hoping someone will wake up and realize that the Governments have to do something. But, whatever.
 
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