POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Yes I'm sure Nixon was in favor of gay marriage, campaign finance reform , and civil rights.

Are we talking about Richard Nixon or Cynthia Nixon here?

Richard.

Social Issues aside he got the EPA passed and was for Obamacare before it was called Obamacare. It's amazing how you can't discern context from anything.

 

[Rover]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Richard.

Social Issues aside he got the EPA passed and was for Obamacare before it was called Obamacare. It's amazing how you can't discern context from anything.

Scoobs, buddy, you need to find different heroes. I too enjoy Nixon's tweets from hell, but the guy wasn't a "Democrat" in any way, shape or form. I seriously doubt he was the driving force behind the EPA even if he did sign the legislation. That's kinda like saying Bush II was a paragon of corporate governance for signing Sarbanes-Oxley.

The problem with your "context" is most of your assumptions are stupid and fit a pre-conceived narrative. Aside from that though I'm sure you're a lot of fun at parties and family get-togethers.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Scoobs, buddy, you need to find different heroes. I too enjoy Nixon's tweets from hell, but the guy wasn't a "Democrat" in any way, shape or form. I seriously doubt he was the driving force behind the EPA even if he did sign the legislation. That's kinda like saying Bush II was a paragon of corporate governance for signing Sarbanes-Oxley.

The problem with your "context" is most of your assumptions are stupid and fit a pre-conceived narrative. Aside from that though I'm sure you're a lot of fun at parties and family get-togethers.

The EPA, Sarbanes Oxley, or Obamacare would NOT (sorry was a typo) be signed by any Republican President today. The first two were signed by Republican Presidents into law and Obamacare was a Republican solution to Health Care.

If that isn't direct evidence of the Republican Party drifting right I don't know what is.

And if that isn't direct evidence that Richard Nixon, and Bush I and II would have no shot at a primary today then I don't know what to tell you.

I can tell you there are many centrist Democrats that are now in the House that just as easily could have been Republicans pre Gingrich.

But, yeah, I'm the moron here.

 

[SJHovey]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

So when you call someone obtuse, you're just asking a legit polite question. When you get called obtuse all the big meanie D's are hurting your precious fragile feefees?

If you read my post, I think you'll see that actually I asked if her intention was to be deliberately obtuse, or if she truly didn't understand this process.

As for name calling, you guys can call me all the names you like. Take a number. In fact, I kind of like it when the name calling starts, because it usually means that my post as maybe gotten under someone's skin a bit, that they have nada with which to respond, or perhaps some combination of the two.

I've never placed anyone on ignore, nor do I intend to. If you think you can get me to stop posting, like Bob or others, good luck with that. I relish the fact that I'm frequently in the minority in these political threads.

 

[WeAreNDHockey]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

In fact, I kind of like it when the name calling starts, because it usually means that my post as maybe gotten under someone's skin a bit, that they have nada with which to respond, or perhaps some combination of the two.

Oddly though it has been pointed out that in addition to the name calling, there were plenty of proper responses to your latest both sides are bad post. You do get under my skin because it greatly saddens me when I see how stupid a great portion of the American electorate is becoming. That people cannot see the blatant and never ending hypocrisy of the current incarnation of the republican party both saddens and worries me. I know one thing chief, when this country finally falls into the scrap bin of history it ain't gonna be because people like me were sounding the alarm and questioning the intelligence of people like you who can't see that one side here is clearly worse than the other -- even if both sides ARE "bad." It's because too many people like you stood around watching while it happened.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Oddly though it has been pointed out that in addition to the name calling, there were plenty of proper responses to your latest both sides are bad post. You do get under my skin because it greatly saddens me when I see how stupid a great portion of the American electorate is becoming. That people cannot see the blatant and never ending hypocrisy of the current incarnation of the republican party both saddens and worries me. I know one thing chief, when this country finally falls into the scrap bin of history it ain't gonna be because people like me were sounding the alarm and questioning the intelligence of people like you who can't see that one side here is clearly worse than the other -- even if both sides ARE "bad." It's because too many people like you stood around watching while it happened.

Yes. BSABSVR is an American solution to the current problems. And it is destroying the country. And the "centrists" are falling for it in droves.

 

[mookie1995]

The EPA, Sarbanes Oxley, or Obamacare would be signed by any Republican President today. The first two were signed by Republican Presidents into law and Obamacare was a Republican solution to Health Care.

If that isn't direct evidence of the Republican Party drifting right I don't know what is.

And if that isn't direct evidence that Richard Nixon, and Bush I and II would have no shot at a primary today then I don't know what to tell you.

I can tell you there are many centrist Democrats that are now in the House that just as easily could have been Republicans pre Gingrich.

But, yeah, I'm the moron here.

tD allows people who hate colored, Jews, and the gays to vote as a single block and not be embarrassed. Robert Byrd would vote for tD

That's why he got old angry white D in PA to vote for him- certainly not a right leaning shift in US politics.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

tD allows people who hate colored, Jews, and the gays to vote as a single block and not be embarrassed. Robert Byrd would vote for tD

That's why he got old angry white D in PA to vote for him- certainly not a right leaning shift in US politics.

The shift to the right got W elected twice and Trump would have lost without it. It came in with the House that Gingrich controlled. Our politics has been defined by Gingrich for the last two decades.

 

[mookie1995]

The shift to the right got W elected twice and Trump would have lost without it. It came in with the House that Gingrich controlled. Our politics has been defined by Gingrich for the last two decades.

W won because people tend to not continue a party after 2 terms (and gore DID win even though he was only a slightly better candidate than dukaskis) (then 911 happened and people tend to reelect a pres at war) (don't over thinknit) (after all the people then elected a negro TWICE)

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

W won because people tend to not continue a party after 2 terms (and gore DID win even though he was only a slightly better candidate than dukaskis) (then 911 happened and people tend to reelect a pres at war) (don't over thinknit) (after all the people then elected a negro TWICE)

You can keep thinking that but none of that explains how since 1980 the Ayn Rand crowd has been allowed to steal 23 Trillion dollars from the Middle and Lower Class. The only explanation is a drift to the right.

 

[GrinCDXX]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

As for name calling, you guys can call me all the names you like. Take a number. In fact, I kind of like it when the name calling starts, because it usually means that my post as maybe gotten under someone's skin a bit, that they have nada with which to respond, or perhaps some combination of the two.

So in this case where it's been demonstrated that the name callers didn't have "nada" with which to respond, we're left only with getting under peoples' skin as to why you kind of like it. So let's be clear, by definition, you're being a troll.

 

[mookie1995]

You can keep thinking that but none of that explains how since 1980 the Ayn Rand crowd has been allowed to steal 23 Trillion dollars from the Middle and Lower Class. The only explanation is a drift to the right.

Dude
Kennedy and Clinton and friends are LOADED. They put up a fight for politics
End of the day they giddily laugh to the bank.

Rich vs poor matters more than right vs left.

They wind you into a rage that nobody in power on your side gives a crap about.

 

[mookie1995]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

White people have more in common with colored people than with rich people.

Rich play the races off to keep anyone from looking at them.

Right and left are props on a stage

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Dude
Kennedy and Clinton and friends are LOADED. They put up a fight for politics
End of the day they giddily laugh to the bank.

Rich vs poor matters more than right vs left.

They wind you into a rage that nobody in power on your side gives a crap about.

There are plenty of people in power on my side that care. Just not enough to change anything significant.

 

[mookie1995]

There are plenty of people in power on my side that care. Just not enough to change anything significant.

True believers. A minority. Just like mookie is sure there is a single soul somewhere who wants a balanced budget

 

[Rover]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

The EPA, Sarbanes Oxley, or Obamacare would be signed by any Republican President today.

Are you out of your fuking mind? You think Chump (you know, the current Republican President) would sign ANY of these?

I don't think you're a moron Scoobs, I think you're delusional.

Also mookie is right (did I just say that? ). Listen to the man....well, on this issue, this one time, anyway.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Are you out of your fuking mind? You think Chump (you know, the current Republican President) would sign ANY of these?

I don't think you're a moron Scoobs, I think you're delusional.

Also mookie is right (did I just say that? ). Listen to the man....well, on this issue, this one time, anyway.

Oh, and **** you. I am not delusional. That was a typo. It should be WOULD NOT.

 

[Rover]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Oh, and **** you. I am not delusional. That was a typo. It should be WOULD NOT.

Phew. I was about to send the men with the white coats to your location.

Regarding your first request, no thanks.

 

[SJHovey]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Oddly though it has been pointed out that in addition to the name calling, there were plenty of proper responses to your latest both sides are bad post. You do get under my skin because it greatly saddens me when I see how stupid a great portion of the American electorate is becoming. That people cannot see the blatant and never ending hypocrisy of the current incarnation of the republican party both saddens and worries me. I know one thing chief, when this country finally falls into the scrap bin of history it ain't gonna be because people like me were sounding the alarm and questioning the intelligence of people like you who can't see that one side here is clearly worse than the other -- even if both sides ARE "bad." It's because too many people like you stood around watching while it happened.

It's always kind of funny when people read a post and interpret it as a "both sides are bad" post, or trot out the old BSABSVR to show how social media savvy they are.

My original posts have nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats. It wasn't suggesting that either side is bad, both sides are bad, or that one side is worse than the other. I leave that up to you guys.

My point is this. I don't care if you are a Whig, a Democrat, a Republican, a Federalist, a Libertarian, a Socialist, a Communist or whatever other label you want to ascribe to a political party. The practice of a political party taking action or passing laws for it's political advantage is as old as politics itself. It undoubtedly goes back to the Roman Senate and beyond. It certainly isn't exclusive or unique to the U.S., a country in existence for less than 250 years.

Now, if you want to continue to get bent out of shape about it, by all means do so.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

It's always kind of funny when people read a post and interpret it as a "both sides are bad" post, or trot out the old BSABSVR to show how social media savvy they are.

My original posts have nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats. It wasn't suggesting that either side is bad, both sides are bad, or that one side is worse than the other. I leave that up to you guys.

My point is this. I don't care if you are a Whig, a Democrat, a Republican, a Federalist, a Libertarian, a Socialist, a Communist or whatever other label you want to ascribe to a political party. The practice of a political party taking action or passing laws for it's political advantage is as old as politics itself. It undoubtedly goes back to the Roman Senate and beyond. It certainly isn't exclusive or unique to the U.S., a country in existence for less than 250 years.

Now, if you want to continue to get bent out of shape about it, by all means do so.

This is just not true. Everything used to be bipartisan. Everything. Now, everything is a big **** you to the other side. Did you not listen to the speeches given a HW Bush's funeral? You might learn something.

Even Obamacare they tried as hard as they could to make it as bipartisan as possible. It just wasn't as possible as it should have been.