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POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

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SJHovey said:
It's always kind of funny when people read a post and interpret it as a "both sides are bad" post, or trot out the old BSABSVR to show how social media savvy they are.

My original posts have nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats. It wasn't suggesting that either side is bad, both sides are bad, or that one side is worse than the other. I leave that up to you guys.

My point is this. I don't care if you are a Whig, a Democrat, a Republican, a Federalist, a Libertarian, a Socialist, a Communist or whatever other label you want to ascribe to a political party. The practice of a political party taking action or passing laws for it's political advantage is as old as politics itself. It undoubtedly goes back to the Roman Senate and beyond. It certainly isn't exclusive or unique to the U.S., a country in existence for less than 250 years.

Now, if you want to continue to get bent out of shape about it, by all means do so.
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And yet, despite how commonplace you think this is, you have yet to cite a single example of Democrats doing anything like what the Republicans are doing in WI and MI. In terms of brazenly undemocratic legislation, this is even worse than gerrymandering. At least that's taking (excessive) advantage of power that voters have granted to you. In this case, the voters have just expressed a desire to take some power away from them. And their response is "Oh yeah? **** you".
 
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GrinCDXX said:
And yet, despite how commonplace you think this is, you have yet to cite a single example of Democrats doing anything like what the Republicans are doing in WI and MI.
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The response you will get is, "that's not important".

But, if you ask me that's everything.
 
5mn_Major said:
More weeding out of the GOP moderates and replaced by loyal extremists. UN ambassador Haley moves on and Fox News Analyst Heather Nauert replaces her. She's a real piece of work.
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I don’t think she is an extremist in any way, but I was absolutely shocked when I read she was being nominated. Hopefully she does a great job though.
 
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SJHovey said:
It's always kind of funny when people read a post and interpret it as a "both sides are bad" post, or trot out the old BSABSVR to show how social media savvy they are.

My original posts have nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats. It wasn't suggesting that either side is bad, both sides are bad, or that one side is worse than the other. I leave that up to you guys.

My point is this. I don't care if you are a Whig, a Democrat, a Republican, a Federalist, a Libertarian, a Socialist, a Communist or whatever other label you want to ascribe to a political party. The practice of a political party taking action or passing laws for it's political advantage is as old as politics itself. It undoubtedly goes back to the Roman Senate and beyond. It certainly isn't exclusive or unique to the U.S., a country in existence for less than 250 years.

Now, if you want to continue to get bent out of shape about it, by all means do so.
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Just because everybody thinks you're an idiot doesn't mean you're not. :D
 
ScoobyDoo said:
The shift to the right got W elected twice and Trump would have lost without it. It came in with the House that Gingrich controlled. Our politics has been defined by Gingrich for the last two decades.
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The Rush Limbaugh era...

A right leaning act or push, defended and pushed further by right wing radio, acted upon by the right, lather, rinse, repeat. A vicious cyle where they continually eat their own sh**.
 
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jerphisch said:
So when you call someone obtuse, you're just asking a legit polite question. When you get called obtuse all the big meanie D's are hurting your precious fragile feefees?
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Correct. He gets to call us "half-wits", but the minute one of us calls him anything, it's "name-calling".

Can't stand the heat, stay the fck outta the kitchen.
 
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SJHovey said:
In fact, I kind of like it when the name calling starts, because it usually means that my post as maybe gotten under someone's skin a bit, that they have nada with which to respond, or perhaps some combination of the two
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You keep saying this, but I don't think it means what you think it means.
 
rufus said:
No, I want you to give me examples of lame duck legislation that intends to do what this does, namely, the losing party, in this case examples from you, the Democrats, using their political authority to weaken the statutory powers of the winning party, in this case, Republicans.
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So, nothing, huh?

Will you stop with this 'both sides' chit, now?
 
SJHovey said:
Wait, you think the Wisconsin legislation is using political authority to "weaken the statutory powers of the winning party?" How exactly does it do that?

It weakens the statutory powers of the office of governor. Whoever holds that seat.
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Quit fighting strawmen. You know exactly what I meant. They gave those powers to a Republican governor. Now that it's going to be a Democrat governor, they want to take those powers away again
 
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SJHovey said:
The practice of a political party taking action or passing laws for it's political advantage is as old as politics itself. It undoubtedly goes back to the Roman Senate and beyond. It certainly isn't exclusive or unique to the U.S., a country in existence for less than 250 years.
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Here's what you missing. The reality is that Republicans put their party before everything, everyone, always regardless of ethics - not the case with the Dems. This explains just about every single thing they do.

And they do so against the will of the people as America is an honest, liberal majority country but is saddled with a biased voting process and an unethical oligarch that cheats and steals to stay in power.

These are real differences.
 
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5mn_Major said:
Here's what you missing. The reality is that Republicans put their party before everything, everyone, always regardless of ethics - not the case with the Dems. This explains just about every single thing they do.

And they do so against the will of the people as America is an honest, liberal majority country but is saddled with a biased voting process and an unethical oligarch that cheats and steals to stay in power.

These are real differences.
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And don't forget the 23 trillion they stole. That includes the trillion that they added with the last tax cut.
 
SJHovey said:
With respect to lame duck legislation, iirc correctly after Obama took a beating in the mid-terms in 2010, the outgoing Democratic congress passed a bunch of legislation that they knew would never get passed once the Republicans took office. I think their ban on the executive branch using the "don't ask, don't tell" policy in the military was part of what they did away with, which is fine with me because it was a stupid practice by the executive anyway. But I'm not 100% certain I have the dates right on that.
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Fine. What legislation did they or any other Democratic majority pass that limited the authority of the incoming Republican majority?

Cause that's the issue at hand, no matter how much you present strawmen, obfuscate, or offer up 'both sides'
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
And don't forget the 23 trillion they stole. That includes the trillion that they added with the last tax cut.
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I'm pro business but this was both terrible policy and theft. The only reason it was done was to curry favor for influence in elections. The only thing that matters to the GOP is the GOP.
 
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Yet, you ****ers can witch hunt the current Secretary of State all you want? Go **** yourself.
 
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