POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

[dxmnkd316]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

I listened to it close enough. I refuse to give Trump any Oxygen by thinking that the eulogy would have been any different if Trump had never existed. Trump does not deserve the Oxygen he gets from this stuff.

Oxygen is a TV network
oxygen is an element



Also, the fact is, that eulogy would have been substantially the same but written differently if Trump hadn't been elected.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Oxygen is a TV network
oxygen is an element



Also, the fact is, that eulogy would have been substantially the same but written differently if Trump hadn't been elected.

Maybe. Only Jon knows. Given he's a Presidential historian he probably was taking some latitude.

I capitalized that word for emphasis.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Maybe. Only Jon knows.

You're 100% right.

 

[Handyman]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Who cares? It is funny that the people who hate that Trump makes everything about himself cant stop making everything about him

 

[rufus]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">U.S. stocks are battered in one of their worst days in 2018 as U.S.-China trade deal appears to sputter <a href="https://t.co/933vsHZyh6">https://t.co/933vsHZyh6</a></p>— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) <a href="https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1070060727786979328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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He is blowing up his own deal (or he lied and never had one) and Wall Street is freaking out over it.

As usual, there was no deal, but as long as Red Don crows about having one, his followers will believe it.


And he still doesn't seem to understand that it's not China who's actually paying the tariffs.

 

[rufus]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

https://apnews.com/6d94eb47d2444e1eaf5066beba64b2fb

Disappointed. I was hoping he really was stupid enough to claim such a privilege.

 

[rufus]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Every VP since 1977 is at President Bush’s funeral, except one. Mondale, Quayle, Gore, Cheney, Biden, and Pence are there. The only one missing is President Reagan’s VP, George HW Bush.</p>— Ari Fleischer (@AriFleischer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AriFleischer/status/1070350900521263106?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bet if Ari keeps digging he'll find out Reagan didnt even bother to show up to today's funeral.

Pretty sure HW Bush was there.

 

[Rogie21]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A rich black athlete kneels during the National Anthem to protest racial injustice, you make him a pariah.<br><br>A rich white con man who unfortunately holds the title of President refuses to show respect for a former President & Veteran because hes a narcissistic *******... crickets. <a href="https://t.co/hOppR7Fz3z">pic.twitter.com/hOppR7Fz3z</a></p>— Jax the Ripper (@lindeeloo_who) <a href="https://twitter.com/lindeeloo_who/status/1070393643712856064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Wisko McBadgerton]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Civilians should stand and place their hands over their hearts at the passing of the flag, or in this case, the remains of the former POTUS.

Military does not do so, but rather stands at attention. (and salutes when appropriate) I haven't looked up the specific rules here but I'm pretty certain that the POTUS as Commander in Chief is not a civilian and is acting appropriately for his rank.

This will probably garner about a billion retweets and much outrage even so.

 

[Jimjamesak]

Civilians should stand and place their hands over their hearts at the passing of the flag, or in this case, the remains of the former POTUS.

Military does not do so, but rather stands at attention. (and salutes when appropriate) I haven't looked up the specific rules here but I'm pretty certain that the POTUS as Commander in Chief is not a civilian and is acting appropriately for his rank.

This will probably garner about a billion retweets and much outrage even so.

The President is a civilian. For example Eisenhower had to resign his rank to run for President.

But hey, keep carrying that water.

 

[aparch]

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Interesting to read about the Stolen Valor that Trump pulled when paying respects to the casket. Lots of people asking just which branch of service Trump served in to earn the right to salute Bush (when no other President did). Even if granted a pass at the salute gesture, he seems to also be catching flak for his thumb position during said salute.

 

[UMD21]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Heard Dubbers got banned maybe from something over on this side so I came to see it for my self. Low and behold, HANDY IS STILL ALIVE?! Got dayumn. Guess he gave up on hockey a decade ago..never expected he may still be posting here. Brings me way back to POI days (MagnifiedSpehar), don’t remember if I ever had a different USCHO account.

 

[aparch]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Civilians should stand and place their hands over their hearts at the passing of the flag, or in this case, the remains of the former POTUS.

Military does not do so, but rather stands at attention. (and salutes when appropriate) I haven't looked up the specific rules here but I'm pretty certain that the POTUS as Commander in Chief is not a civilian and is acting appropriately for his rank.

This will probably garner about a billion retweets and much outrage even so.

Wait, wait... so you're okay with Obama half-a**ing his salute with a coffee cup in hand because he has *earned* the ability to salute with his job title? Pretty sure Faux News was upset that Obama even dared to salute seeing as that he never served in the military, and then coupled with the nerve to do it with a coffee cup in hand.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

The President is a civilian. For example Eisenhower had to resign his rank to run for President.

But hey, keep carrying that water.

Beat me to it.

Except th Eisenhower part. Nicely done.

 

[unofan]

Civilians should stand and place their hands over their hearts at the passing of the flag, or in this case, the remains of the former POTUS.

Military does not do so, but rather stands at attention. (and salutes when appropriate) I haven't looked up the specific rules here but I'm pretty certain that the POTUS as Commander in Chief is not a civilian and is acting appropriately for his rank.

This will probably garner about a billion retweets and much outrage even so.

Others have already said it, but it bears repeating. We have civilian leadership of our military. President may be Commander in Chief, but he's clearly a civilian. That's like 4th grade civics.

 

[aparch]

Others have already said it, but it bears repeating. We have civilian leadership of our military. President may be Commander in Chief, but he's clearly a civilian. That's like 4th grade civics.

But, but, look at all his medals!

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[Wisko McBadgerton]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

The President is a civilian. For example Eisenhower had to resign his rank to run for President.

But hey, keep carrying that water.

Article II of the Constitution designates the POTUS Commander in Chief of all armed forces and militia, however you are correct in that the President is required to be a civilian. I didn't mean to suggest he wasn't, although I certainly wrote my statement incorrectly. Sorry.

I simply meant "not a civilian" when it comes to saluting protocols which was the topic at hand. The President doesn't follow civilian protocols.

Presidents adopting military salutes primarily started with Ronald Reagan upon receiving the advice of the then Marine Corps Commandant in 1981. Presidents have adopted the related military protocols ever since, although each President sets the protocol they wish to follow with their own Chief of Protocol. (Retired Master Chief Petty Officer Sean Lawler is the current White House Chief of Protocol.)

Federal statutes specifying flag protocol limited the right to salute the flag to those currently serving or veterans who have previously served in the military, when in uniform. That law was amended in 2008 to permit veterans to render military salutes to the flag even when not in uniform. The only exception is the sitting president. Why? Because since Reagan Presidents have chosen to follow most non-civilian protocols.

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Wait, wait... so you're okay with Obama half-a**ing his salute with a coffee cup in hand because he has *earned* the ability to salute with his job title? Pretty sure Faux News was upset that Obama even dared to salute seeing as that he never served in the military, and then coupled with the nerve to do it with a coffee cup in hand.

I'm ok with it, you seem to be the one bent out of shape about sitting Presidents saluting or not and what position their thumb is in.

 

[jerphisch]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Civilians should stand and place their hands over their hearts at the passing of the flag, or in this case, the remains of the former POTUS.

Military does not do so, but rather stands at attention. (and salutes when appropriate) I haven't looked up the specific rules here but I'm pretty certain that the POTUS as Commander in Chief is not a civilian and is acting appropriately for his rank.

This will probably garner about a billion retweets and much outrage even so.

GTFO if that was the black muslin your panties would twist until they ripped.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Article II of the Constitution designates the POTUS Commander in Chief of all armed forces and militia, however you are correct in that the President is required to be a civilian. I didn't mean to suggest he wasn't, although I certainly wrote my statement incorrectly. Sorry.

I simply meant "not a civilian" when it comes to saluting protocols which was the topic at hand. The President doesn't follow civilian protocols.

Presidents adopting military salutes primarily started with Ronald Reagan upon receiving the advice of the then Marine Corps Commandant in 1981. Presidents have adopted the related military protocols ever since, although each President sets the protocol they wish to follow with their own Chief of Protocol. (Retired Master Chief Petty Officer Sean Lawler is the current White House Chief of Protocol.)

Federal statutes specifying flag protocol limited the right to salute the flag to those currently serving or veterans who have previously served in the military, when in uniform. That law was amended in 2008 to permit veterans to render military salutes to the flag even when not in uniform. The only exception is the sitting president. Why? Because since Reagan Presidents have chosen to follow most non-civilian protocols.

Yeah. You’re right. He was clearly versed on the matter and had discussed it as such with master chief petty officer lawler in great detail.

Either that or he’s a giant ****ing doosh.

I’ll take the latter until proven wrong.