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POTUS 45.43: The Caravan is Coming. Fear the Caravan.

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10 years. And no, I don't have a DUI, but know people who do.

If you think their permanent immigration is tough, have a look at the process for becoming a naturalized Canadian citizen.

I can only imagine. I don't have a DUI, but yes, know a couple people who do.
 
Re: POTUS 45.43: The Caravan is Coming. Fear the Caravan.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rumor has it that Senator Joe Donnelly of Indiana is paying for Facebook ads for his so-called opponent on the libertarian ticket. Donnelly is trying to steal the election? Isn’t that what Russia did!?</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1058827516427808768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi gain the majority, they will try to raise your taxes, restore job-killing regulations, shut down your coal mines and timber mills, take away your healthcare, impose socialism, and ERASE your borders. VOTE for <a href="https://twitter.com/MattForMontana?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MattForMontana</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/GregForMontana?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GregForMontana</a>! <a href="https://t.co/aDnCQKY7QD">pic.twitter.com/aDnCQKY7QD</a></p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1058820790546821120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rumor has it that Senator Joe Donnelly of Indiana is paying for Facebook ads for his so-called opponent on the libertarian ticket. Donnelly is trying to steal the election? Isn’t that what Russia did!?</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1058827516427808768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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That awkward moment where you don't realize you admitted to something...
 
Re: POTUS 45.43: The Caravan is Coming. Fear the Caravan.

As I said, I welcome all legal immigrants. Yet you accuse me of being a xenophobe. Does not compute.

You don't want illegals then start jailing CEO's of large agri corporations and the hospitality industry. Start there. And none of this white collar prison **** but pound your *** prison with all the hard core murderers and rapists.

And then when the economy completely shuts down because you needed those workers and you were too ****ing lazy to fix immigration to get workers permits for all the labor we need and your in another depression economy don't come crying to me.
 
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You don't want illegals then start jailing CEO's of large agri corporations and the hospitality industry. Start there. And none of this white collar prison **** but pound your *** prison with all the hard core murderers and rapists.

And then when the economy completely shuts down because you needed those workers and you were too ****ing lazy to fix immigration to get workers permits for all the labor we need and your in another depression economy don't come crying to me.

I have also said go after the businesses that hire illegals. Multiple times.
 
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I have also said go after the businesses that hire illegals. Multiple times.

You have, and it's an approach that I have considered. It seems reasonable. When an undocumented immigrant will do the job for $50-100/day under the table, why would a business pay a living wage to a citizen? This screws over the pocketbooks of citizens.

However, this would drive up prices for many goods and services, because it's likely that few Americans would do the type of grunt work usually done by the undocumented, without being offered considerably more than the current minimum wage.

So, it's not as simple of an approach as it looks. Nothing about economics is ever simple or clear, except for centrally-planned economies never working in the long run. ;)
 
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You have, and it's an approach that I have considered. It seems reasonable. When an undocumented immigrant will do the job for $50-100/day under the table, why would a business pay a living wage to a citizen? This screws over the pocketbooks of citizens.

However, this would drive up prices for many goods and services, because it's likely that few Americans would do the type of grunt work usually done by the undocumented, without being offered considerably more than the current minimum wage.

So, it's not as simple of an approach as it looks. Nothing about economics is ever simple or clear, except for centrally-planned economies never working in the long run. ;)

With the min Fed wage going up to $15/hour...that argument about taking jobs no one wants is disappearing. Yes, I'm aware of the exceptions.
 
You have, and it's an approach that I have considered. It seems reasonable. When an undocumented immigrant will do the job for $50-100/day under the table, why would a business pay a living wage to a citizen? This screws over the pocketbooks of citizens.

However, this would drive up prices for many goods and services, because it's likely that few Americans would do the type of grunt work usually done by the undocumented, without being offered considerably more than the current minimum wage.

So, it's not as simple of an approach as it looks. Nothing about economics is ever simple or clear, except for centrally-planned economies never working in the long run. ;)

Let alone toilet cleaning.... if iPhones were made in the US none would sell :)
 
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Lol, wut? Were people talking about Obama's crowds?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Landing in Montana now - at least everybody admits that my lines and crowds are far bigger than Barack Obama’s... <a href="https://t.co/PCibGjS209">https://t.co/PCibGjS209</a></p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1058781668151050240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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In the upcoming year, there are 4 total ticketmaster entries for all of Bozeman, MT. Five finger death punch, the Harlem Globetrotters, Zoso, and the suicide girls. In other words, Trump getting the entertainment starved people of central Montana to see him might not be very earth shattering.
 
Re: POTUS 45.43: The Caravan is Coming. Fear the Caravan.

In the upcoming year, there are 4 total ticketmaster entries for all of Bozeman, MT. Five finger death punch, the Harlem Globetrotters, Zoso, and the suicide girls. In other words, Trump getting the entertainment starved people of central Montana to see him might not be very earth shattering.

So it's like when a lot of people go to UND games. Sad sad people with no other viable entertainment. Sad.
 
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I have also said go after the businesses that hire illegals. Multiple times.

Again, the ideal solution is to make immigrant worker programs that mimic illegal immigration (GOP won't do it), if not enforce laws against companies (GOP hasn't done it effectively)...and regardless know that the GOP want to keep the status quo and stoke fear for political purposes.

Folks must understand this is all on the GOP.
 
Re: POTUS 45.43: The Caravan is Coming. Fear the Caravan.

You have, and it's an approach that I have considered. It seems reasonable. When an undocumented immigrant will do the job for $50-100/day under the table, why would a business pay a living wage to a citizen? This screws over the pocketbooks of citizens.

However, this would drive up prices for many goods and services, because it's likely that few Americans would do the type of grunt work usually done by the undocumented, without being offered considerably more than the current minimum wage.

So, it's not as simple of an approach as it looks. Nothing about economics is ever simple or clear, except for centrally-planned economies never working in the long run. ;)

If you watch the news about the economic impact for the immigration tightening, you clearly see that the most affected group are R and/or dumy supporters. The highest percentage being farmers (who also benefit a LOT from government support, even for doing nothing.... but that's not welfare...). Next are the industrial food groups from other areas. And who do you think hires all of the illegals for their home gardening work??? Rich republicans.

Which is more to say- if you go after the businesses, you also go after more R's than D's. So that's not going to happen.

From a manipulation standpoint, assuming the borders get back opened up a little, and illegal immigration starts back up again, the biggest effect will be the lowering of wages of the illegals. So that the food people can profit even more from their illegal workers.
 
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