dxmnkd316
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Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.
They supported trump because they didn’t have brains.
They supported trump because they didn’t have brains.
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POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.
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Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.
Next time ask them how old they were when they chose to be straight and how do they know they chose correctly. Clearly they can identify with the concept of wanting someone else's pen1s up close and personal otherwise how would they know?
Next time ask them how old they were when they chose to be straight and how do they know they chose correctly. Clearly they can identify with the concept of wanting someone else's pen1s up close and personal otherwise how would they know?
Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.
To paraphrase an old saying, they chose the devil they didn't know.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/better the devil you know than the devil you don't
To paraphrase an old saying, they chose the devil they didn't know.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/better the devil you know than the devil you don't
FadeToBlack&Gold
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Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.
It's easy for you and I, the privileged, white, and college-educated, to say that they didn't think too critically about it. If we were black, and the centrist, corporate Dems like Clinton, Bloomberg, Lieberman, Durbin, Pelosi, etc. clearly hadn't done much to lift our prospects in the ~40 years since the parties switched positions on race, perhaps we'd be throwing caution into the wind for once, too.
Don't forget, Bill supported "Three strikes", and other such laws.
It's easy for you and I, the privileged, white, and college-educated, to say that they didn't think too critically about it. If we were black, and the centrist, corporate Dems like Clinton, Bloomberg, Lieberman, Durbin, Pelosi, etc. clearly hadn't done much to lift our prospects in the ~40 years since the parties switched positions on race, perhaps we'd be throwing caution into the wind for once, too.
Don't forget, Bill supported "Three strikes", and other such laws.
Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.
That's a big one. It was good in principle, but it backfired massively.
That's a big one. It was good in principle, but it backfired massively.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.
Yeah, it’s because the Democrats have been treading water with the GOP anchor around their neck for 40 years.
They didn’t help their own cause as much as they should have, but it’s hard to break through 250 years of systemic racism and plutocracy.
Yeah, it’s because the Democrats have been treading water with the GOP anchor around their neck for 40 years.
They didn’t help their own cause as much as they should have, but it’s hard to break through 250 years of systemic racism and plutocracy.
Handyman
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Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.
Sorry but that is a cop out and a bit of a straw man. If you were an inner city black youth why would you think someone like Hillary Clinton gave two craps about who you were or how you struggled? Why do you think BLM protested at Bernie rallies? The fact is to many of them the Dem Establishment is just as Lilly White and Privileged as the GOP. They may have Beyonce at their rallies, or Common might sing a song to praise them but that actually hurts the narrative more than it helps.
It isnt the Dems job to reverse the course of racism and no one says they are responsible for that. Truth be told though, many of them sound fraudulent when they act like they have empathy for the plight of some protected class.
Sorry but that is a cop out and a bit of a straw man. If you were an inner city black youth why would you think someone like Hillary Clinton gave two craps about who you were or how you struggled? Why do you think BLM protested at Bernie rallies? The fact is to many of them the Dem Establishment is just as Lilly White and Privileged as the GOP. They may have Beyonce at their rallies, or Common might sing a song to praise them but that actually hurts the narrative more than it helps.
It isnt the Dems job to reverse the course of racism and no one says they are responsible for that. Truth be told though, many of them sound fraudulent when they act like they have empathy for the plight of some protected class.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.
Why isn’t it their job? It should be.
And yeah, it might be a cop out, but I’m not going to give save harbor to people who don’t use their brains. It didn’t take much effort to realize Trump would be a disaster.
Why isn’t it their job? It should be.
And yeah, it might be a cop out, but I’m not going to give save harbor to people who don’t use their brains. It didn’t take much effort to realize Trump would be a disaster.
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Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.
Wow, this was actually a pretty good debate, and at least echoed to me a lot of what has previously happened here until things devolved into echo chamber in-fighting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH-q9FcRcQ8
Tucker Carlson vs. Cenk Uygur.
Wow, this was actually a pretty good debate, and at least echoed to me a lot of what has previously happened here until things devolved into echo chamber in-fighting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH-q9FcRcQ8
Tucker Carlson vs. Cenk Uygur.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.
And those lack of brains have given him his highest approval ratings since right after the last election.
And those lack of brains have given him his highest approval ratings since right after the last election.
rufus
rock and roller
Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.
Used to be, back in the 60's. Just as it used to be their job to look out for the working man, to support strong unions and collective bargaining.
Until they get back to that, until they actually grow a backbone and stand for something, instead of just being "Republican lite", we're gonna just keep treading water here.
Used to be, back in the 60's. Just as it used to be their job to look out for the working man, to support strong unions and collective bargaining.
Until they get back to that, until they actually grow a backbone and stand for something, instead of just being "Republican lite", we're gonna just keep treading water here.
Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.
This is absurd horsesh it and shows how people continue to cut off their noses to spite their faces. The Dems from corporate ones to lefties have been on the correct side of voting rights over that entire time. From the Motor-Voter Law (Bill Clinton) to early voting to opposing voter suppression laws such as last minute changes to require photo ID's to allowing people who've served out their prison sentences to regain their voting rights - all of these things directly benefit the non white community. Anybody too stupid to understand who their friends are frankly deserves what's coming to them. The fatal flaw of the far left is thinking that the status quo will remain even when handing the GOP total control of the govt. By the time the treasonous money laundering cult is done, the current status quo is going to look like the good old days.
This is absurd horsesh it and shows how people continue to cut off their noses to spite their faces. The Dems from corporate ones to lefties have been on the correct side of voting rights over that entire time. From the Motor-Voter Law (Bill Clinton) to early voting to opposing voter suppression laws such as last minute changes to require photo ID's to allowing people who've served out their prison sentences to regain their voting rights - all of these things directly benefit the non white community. Anybody too stupid to understand who their friends are frankly deserves what's coming to them. The fatal flaw of the far left is thinking that the status quo will remain even when handing the GOP total control of the govt. By the time the treasonous money laundering cult is done, the current status quo is going to look like the good old days.
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ScoobyDoo
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Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.
I actually listened to the entire thing just now. It was interesting to listen to but as usual it was all platitudes and no solutions. Every horrifying thing they brought up that is happening in the United States is true and they both had excellent points to make. But, who cares? People want solutions. People want guard rails. There are none right now. And maybe that's the great underlying reality of today's America. All the noise is the solution. Too many people make too much money off the noise. Instead of solving problems were just here to perpetually argue about them and that argument is the industry that cannot be silenced.
Sad.
I'd actually like to see us get things done again.
I actually listened to the entire thing just now. It was interesting to listen to but as usual it was all platitudes and no solutions. Every horrifying thing they brought up that is happening in the United States is true and they both had excellent points to make. But, who cares? People want solutions. People want guard rails. There are none right now. And maybe that's the great underlying reality of today's America. All the noise is the solution. Too many people make too much money off the noise. Instead of solving problems were just here to perpetually argue about them and that argument is the industry that cannot be silenced.
Sad.
I'd actually like to see us get things done again.
ScoobyDoo
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Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador were not able to do the job of stopping people from leaving their country and coming illegally to the U.S. We will now begin cutting off, or substantially reducing, the massive foreign aid routinely given to them.</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1054356145798856704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Are we ****ing trying to create a new Middle East in our own hemisphere? This is so ****ing stupid.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador were not able to do the job of stopping people from leaving their country and coming illegally to the U.S. We will now begin cutting off, or substantially reducing, the massive foreign aid routinely given to them.</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1054356145798856704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Are we ****ing trying to create a new Middle East in our own hemisphere? This is so ****ing stupid.
ScoobyDoo
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Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Every time you see a Caravan, or people illegally coming, or attempting to come, into our Country illegally, think of and blame the Democrats for not giving us the votes to change our pathetic Immigration Laws! Remember the Midterms! So unfair to those who come in legally.</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1054354059535269888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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This is lies. All lies. Asylum is a legal process. Don't like it change the laws.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Every time you see a Caravan, or people illegally coming, or attempting to come, into our Country illegally, think of and blame the Democrats for not giving us the votes to change our pathetic Immigration Laws! Remember the Midterms! So unfair to those who come in legally.</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1054354059535269888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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This is lies. All lies. Asylum is a legal process. Don't like it change the laws.
Handyman
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Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.
I dont disagree I am just saying you cant understand their line of thinking and it is foolish to criticize it. Sometimes it is easier to hate those that pretend they care about you more than those that dont care. Being placated to to win votes is pretty insulting. (I say this as a Jew who politicians often placate too from both sides for various reasons)
Now if it happens again they have no excuse they know the truth but in 2016 I can see why you run to the familiar when you feel both sides could give two craps about your plight in life which many of them did. I mean they were wrong, but it isnt exactly like it is some strange occurrence. Every election people do it.
The problem the Left has is they think just because facts are on their side they deserve to win. That isnt the way Democracy works. You still have to earn it. Just because you speak about equal rights and fight for them doesnt mean you understand the people who have to deal with the inequalities.
I dont disagree I am just saying you cant understand their line of thinking and it is foolish to criticize it. Sometimes it is easier to hate those that pretend they care about you more than those that dont care. Being placated to to win votes is pretty insulting. (I say this as a Jew who politicians often placate too from both sides for various reasons)
Now if it happens again they have no excuse they know the truth but in 2016 I can see why you run to the familiar when you feel both sides could give two craps about your plight in life which many of them did. I mean they were wrong, but it isnt exactly like it is some strange occurrence. Every election people do it.
The problem the Left has is they think just because facts are on their side they deserve to win. That isnt the way Democracy works. You still have to earn it. Just because you speak about equal rights and fight for them doesnt mean you understand the people who have to deal with the inequalities.
Handyman
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Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.
Hey now...any money we dont give them we can give to our true friends SAUDI ARABIA!
Hey now...any money we dont give them we can give to our true friends SAUDI ARABIA!
Handyman
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Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.
What does the Far Left have to do with what he was saying? Did you even read the conversation?
Unless you are trying to illustrate exactly what he is talking about in which case BRAVO
What does the Far Left have to do with what he was saying? Did you even read the conversation?
Unless you are trying to illustrate exactly what he is talking about in which case BRAVO
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Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.
I think this can be a cop-out too though. I am a straight, white, middle class and middle aged male. I can't begin to understand what it feels like to be discriminated against by a cop who pulls me over for DWB, or to be followed around in a mall because it's assumed I'm going to steal something, or for a large portion of society to find me repulsive because I am attracted to the "wrong" gender. But that doesn't mean I don't know all of those things are wrong and since I may be in a position of privilege I need to work to end those things. The democrats tend to say the right things on these and similar issues, and for the most part they act on them far more often than republicans. There is no question as to which party has done nothing to earn the votes of minorities of all kinds in this country and which party has at least tried to do something. If that isn't readily apparent in 2016 we are NEVER going to get this right.
I think this can be a cop-out too though. I am a straight, white, middle class and middle aged male. I can't begin to understand what it feels like to be discriminated against by a cop who pulls me over for DWB, or to be followed around in a mall because it's assumed I'm going to steal something, or for a large portion of society to find me repulsive because I am attracted to the "wrong" gender. But that doesn't mean I don't know all of those things are wrong and since I may be in a position of privilege I need to work to end those things. The democrats tend to say the right things on these and similar issues, and for the most part they act on them far more often than republicans. There is no question as to which party has done nothing to earn the votes of minorities of all kinds in this country and which party has at least tried to do something. If that isn't readily apparent in 2016 we are NEVER going to get this right.
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