ScoobyDoo
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Re: POTUS 45.40: If You Need a Lawyer, Don't Hire Michael Cohen
I agree. We will never know why the ***** isn't in jail.
I agree. We will never know why the ***** isn't in jail.
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POTUS 45.40: If You Need a Lawyer, Don't Hire Michael Cohen
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Re: POTUS 45.40: If You Need a Lawyer, Don't Hire Michael Cohen
I hate to interfere with Hovey's Trump Humping but really, ignorance of the law doesn't get you a get out of jail free card.
Think of it like this. You're driving 65 in a 35 mile an hour zone, and cop pulls you over. You say "sorry officer, but I didn't see a sign telling me what the speed limit was". Does the cop...
A: Say "oh no problem sir. Here's your license and have a nice day".
B: Smirk because he's heard that about a gazillion times and then write you a big fat ticket?
Whether Chump and his ex-lawyer knew that paying off porn stars to keep quiet in the middle of a Presidential campaign was illegal as all hell or not is irrelevant. What isn't is that 1) he authorized the payments, and 2) an exchange of $$$ was made. Check and check. Cohen is as big of a weasel as Trump. Do you really believe he doesn't have some sort of proof backing up his claim in order to cover his own arse?
I hate to interfere with Hovey's Trump Humping but really, ignorance of the law doesn't get you a get out of jail free card.
Think of it like this. You're driving 65 in a 35 mile an hour zone, and cop pulls you over. You say "sorry officer, but I didn't see a sign telling me what the speed limit was". Does the cop...
A: Say "oh no problem sir. Here's your license and have a nice day".
B: Smirk because he's heard that about a gazillion times and then write you a big fat ticket?
Whether Chump and his ex-lawyer knew that paying off porn stars to keep quiet in the middle of a Presidential campaign was illegal as all hell or not is irrelevant. What isn't is that 1) he authorized the payments, and 2) an exchange of $$$ was made. Check and check. Cohen is as big of a weasel as Trump. Do you really believe he doesn't have some sort of proof backing up his claim in order to cover his own arse?
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: POTUS 45.40: If You Need a Lawyer, Don't Hire Michael Cohen
You completely misread Hovey's post. He didn't defend Trump, and he didn't allow an Out. He said the POTUS and his people were fools, they were in over their heads, but that's not an excuse for breaking the law.
ScoobyDoo
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Re: POTUS 45.40: If You Need a Lawyer, Don't Hire Michael Cohen
Apparently it is. Just read the President's Twitter Account. For example.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael Cohen plead guilty to two counts of campaign finance violations that are not a crime. President Obama had a big campaign finance violation and it was easily settled!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1032260490439864320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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That is the top law enforcement officer in the United States of America talking.
Apparently it is. Just read the President's Twitter Account. For example.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael Cohen plead guilty to two counts of campaign finance violations that are not a crime. President Obama had a big campaign finance violation and it was easily settled!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1032260490439864320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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That is the top law enforcement officer in the United States of America talking.
Re: POTUS 45.40: If You Need a Lawyer, Don't Hire Michael Cohen
FadetoBlack covered this in his comments. It is in fact giving an out to Chump and his crew. I doubt very seriously that they didn't know this was illegal. Even entertaining the notion is kinda what the mainstream media does in order to make a story look "less bad" in the quest for balance in the coverage. I for one am sick of it. If the attitude today was dominant during Watergate the whole break in would have been chalked up to Nixon wanting to test the security system in the DNC headquarters to make sure it was solid and the security guard who bagged Liddy and crew would have been portrayed as a McGovern campaign aide.
FadetoBlack covered this in his comments. It is in fact giving an out to Chump and his crew. I doubt very seriously that they didn't know this was illegal. Even entertaining the notion is kinda what the mainstream media does in order to make a story look "less bad" in the quest for balance in the coverage. I for one am sick of it. If the attitude today was dominant during Watergate the whole break in would have been chalked up to Nixon wanting to test the security system in the DNC headquarters to make sure it was solid and the security guard who bagged Liddy and crew would have been portrayed as a McGovern campaign aide.
rufus
rock and roller
Re: POTUS 45.40: If You Need a Lawyer, Don't Hire Michael Cohen
I think he is that dumb. It's not like campaign finance is like paying your monthly bills, there's a lot of arcane crap in there that it takes lawyers to figure it all out. Now, McGahn was the campaign finance guy, but I doubt if they consulted him about paying off strippers.
Anyway, it doesn't matter what the law was. This is a guy who does not care what the law says, he's going to do what he wants to do, regardless. The law says he has to divest himself of the Trump Org, but has he done it?
I think he is that dumb. It's not like campaign finance is like paying your monthly bills, there's a lot of arcane crap in there that it takes lawyers to figure it all out. Now, McGahn was the campaign finance guy, but I doubt if they consulted him about paying off strippers.
Anyway, it doesn't matter what the law was. This is a guy who does not care what the law says, he's going to do what he wants to do, regardless. The law says he has to divest himself of the Trump Org, but has he done it?
rufus
rock and roller
rufus
rock and roller
Re: POTUS 45.40: If You Need a Lawyer, Don't Hire Michael Cohen
You got what you deserved. What's with this "we" shlt?
You got what you deserved. What's with this "we" shlt?
rufus
rock and roller
Re: POTUS 45.40: If You Need a Lawyer, Don't Hire Michael Cohen
Informed like you're informed?
Informed like you're informed?
rufus
rock and roller
Re: POTUS 45.40: If You Need a Lawyer, Don't Hire Michael Cohen
I believe Hovey said that Red Don being ignorant of the law doesn't excuse what he did. I'm not gonna jump on him for this one, he's actuall being quite reasonable on this one.
I believe Hovey said that Red Don being ignorant of the law doesn't excuse what he did. I'm not gonna jump on him for this one, he's actuall being quite reasonable on this one.
aparch
Acetaminamerican
Re: POTUS 45.40: If You Need a Lawyer, Don't Hire Michael Cohen
My issue with Trump spinning it as "Obama Did It Too!" is that when Obama's campaign was "caught" by the FEC is that the paper trail missed required deadlines for documenting a transfer of money from an account named "Obama Victory Fund" to the campaign.
Trump told his lawyer to write a fu**ing check from his campaign fund, to silence someone from talking about Trump's affair.
To explain it simply: Obama was any one of us being charged a $35.00 fee for incorrectly writing a check. Trump is the equivalent of burning financial documentation Enron style.
And some of the remaining Trumpeters here feel that we should be locked up in federal pound-me-in-the-a** prison for incorrectly writing our check. But, had we torched our financial documentation, toke it up, it's cool!
My issue with Trump spinning it as "Obama Did It Too!" is that when Obama's campaign was "caught" by the FEC is that the paper trail missed required deadlines for documenting a transfer of money from an account named "Obama Victory Fund" to the campaign.
Trump told his lawyer to write a fu**ing check from his campaign fund, to silence someone from talking about Trump's affair.
To explain it simply: Obama was any one of us being charged a $35.00 fee for incorrectly writing a check. Trump is the equivalent of burning financial documentation Enron style.
And some of the remaining Trumpeters here feel that we should be locked up in federal pound-me-in-the-a** prison for incorrectly writing our check. But, had we torched our financial documentation, toke it up, it's cool!
Re: POTUS 45.40: If You Need a Lawyer, Don't Hire Michael Cohen
You were encouraged many times in the lead up to the 2016 election to better inform yourself. It didn't work.
You were encouraged many times in the lead up to the 2016 election to better inform yourself. It didn't work.
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ScoobyDoo
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Re: POTUS 45.40: If You Need a Lawyer, Don't Hire Michael Cohen
Sounds like Trump is saying he can spend any of his money on anything he wants as long as it's his money and not the campaigns money. So, no harm, no foul.
What's next?
Can we get him on a crime? And why is his lawyer pleading out on something that isn't a crime? And, why isn't the ***** in jail?
Sounds like Trump is saying he can spend any of his money on anything he wants as long as it's his money and not the campaigns money. So, no harm, no foul.
What's next?
Can we get him on a crime? And why is his lawyer pleading out on something that isn't a crime? And, why isn't the ***** in jail?
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: POTUS 45.40: If You Need a Lawyer, Don't Hire Michael Cohen
Well, you see, when you’re senile you have no concept of time.
Well, you see, when you’re senile you have no concept of time.
Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Re: POTUS 45.40: If You Need a Lawyer, Don't Hire Michael Cohen
I checked in on the Fox news side of the story earlier tonight as I was making dinner and caught Lanny Davis on for a few minutes. It was the oddest thing -- the host was quoting Dershowitz and a former FEC chair both claiming basically that Cohen paying the women and (apparently) Trump then reimbursing Cohen, didn't break campaign finance law or constitute any crime. So then Davis began arguing that yes, it was in fact a crime and one that his client, Cohen, is most certainly guilty of...
I say odd because I don't believe I've ever seen a defense attorney on TV arguing that his client is guilty when told by somebody else that he isn't.
Also Cohen's go fund me page is now up to $125k. Who are these people donating money to Cohen?
I checked in on the Fox news side of the story earlier tonight as I was making dinner and caught Lanny Davis on for a few minutes. It was the oddest thing -- the host was quoting Dershowitz and a former FEC chair both claiming basically that Cohen paying the women and (apparently) Trump then reimbursing Cohen, didn't break campaign finance law or constitute any crime. So then Davis began arguing that yes, it was in fact a crime and one that his client, Cohen, is most certainly guilty of...
I say odd because I don't believe I've ever seen a defense attorney on TV arguing that his client is guilty when told by somebody else that he isn't.
Also Cohen's go fund me page is now up to $125k. Who are these people donating money to Cohen?
Handyman
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Re: POTUS 45.40: If You Need a Lawyer, Don't Hire Michael Cohen
Dersh has gone full Trumper...the guy always was an ego maniac but now he is is completely off his rocker.
And yes what they did was illegal. Though yeah I agree it is funny that the defense was saying he is guilty in the face of others saying he isnt. Of course he is pleading out so if he wants his deal he will have to say he is guilty of something.
Dersh has gone full Trumper...the guy always was an ego maniac but now he is is completely off his rocker.
And yes what they did was illegal. Though yeah I agree it is funny that the defense was saying he is guilty in the face of others saying he isnt. Of course he is pleading out so if he wants his deal he will have to say he is guilty of something.
Re: POTUS 45.40: If You Need a Lawyer, Don't Hire Michael Cohen
It was posted in the last thread, didn't respond before it got locked.
1. The overall cause of Mollie's death was this f*er's attitude towards women. It is pathetic, and many other men have the same attitude. Makes me sick.
2. A second issue, separate from the first, was this guy wasn't supposed to be here in the first place. Again, this is a SEPARATE but also relevant issue.
Do not associate one issue with the other. One has NO bearing on the other. However, BOTH are relevant issues. If he wasn't here, he wouldn't have the opportunity to commit such a heinous crime (at least in our country).
It was posted in the last thread, didn't respond before it got locked.
1. The overall cause of Mollie's death was this f*er's attitude towards women. It is pathetic, and many other men have the same attitude. Makes me sick.
2. A second issue, separate from the first, was this guy wasn't supposed to be here in the first place. Again, this is a SEPARATE but also relevant issue.
Do not associate one issue with the other. One has NO bearing on the other. However, BOTH are relevant issues. If he wasn't here, he wouldn't have the opportunity to commit such a heinous crime (at least in our country).
unofan
Well-known member
Re: POTUS 45.40: If You Need a Lawyer, Don't Hire Michael Cohen
Doesn't change the fact that natural born citizens are more likely to commit crimes than immigrants, illegal or otherwise. But because this case caught the national eye, Republicans will use this to paint all immigrants with a broad brush.
Next time Farmer Joe kills someone in a drunk driving accident, I'm sure Fox News and Trump will use a similarly broad brush.
Doesn't change the fact that natural born citizens are more likely to commit crimes than immigrants, illegal or otherwise. But because this case caught the national eye, Republicans will use this to paint all immigrants with a broad brush.
Next time Farmer Joe kills someone in a drunk driving accident, I'm sure Fox News and Trump will use a similarly broad brush.
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