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POTUS 45.4 - What's a Battle?

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alfablue said:
I still don't see the harm in thinking internationally when coming up with regulations. Please explain that part.
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Countries X, Y, and Z have lots of < A >.
Country W has lots of < B >.
Country W, X, Y, and Z meet to decide which item can be sold internationally and which should be taxed and restricted.
 
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Kepler said:
Here is the guy The Hill says Trump has asked to replace Flynn. On paper at least he looks like the real deal:

Gotta be better than Flynn, who was a nutcase.

The other potentially good thing about Harward is that The Hill reports he told Trump he needed a few days to think over whether he wanted the job, which suggests he's going to reflect on whether to get mixed up with that bunch of cretins and criminals. It's the Colin Powell Dilemma: do you sign on for the good you can do and risk becoming compromised by the scumbuckets.

Powell chose poorly.
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I'm much more comfortable with him over Flynn, and for Handy ;), Petraeus as well.
 
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Kepler said:
Hopefully this is true, though of course there are thousands more like-minded as-sholes where he came from.
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Is this a sort of modification of the Hastert Rule. You don't nominate someone unless you know you have the votes.
 
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Kepler said:
Fox reports Puzder's a goner.

Really a shame we couldn't kill Sessions and DeVos too. Be nice to cull this moron.
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As scary and troublesome as DeVos and Sessions are, we can fix those problems. This is why Pruitt has been the one I thought the Democrats should fight tooth and nail. There's a real and not insignificant chance that the damage done over the next four years might not be able to be undone. The consequences of that damage could be limitless in our own species-wide universe.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I'm much more comfortable with him over Flynn, and for Handy ;), Petraeus as well.
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Well if this guy wont give out classified secrets to anyone who will touch his wang he is better than Petreaus ;)
 
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The Sicatoka said:
Countries X, Y, and Z have lots of < A >.
Country W has lots of < B >.
Country W, X, Y, and Z meet to decide which item can be sold internationally and which should be taxed and restricted.
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You've just explained the basic trade treaties that are negotiated.

Again, what's wrong with that?

Besides, the EO was about regulations fitting into international agreements, not just basic trade treaties. Again, I fail to see that *considering* the international implications of a regulation is a bad thing. How you go from considering the other international states around you when making laws = not a statesman, well.... I just don't understand.

This is a big world anymore. Trying to put that genie back into the bottle is pretty much impossible. Although, trying to find a different path- will certainly hurt some people. Or a lot.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Is this a sort of modification of the Hastert Rule. You don't nominate someone unless you know you have the votes.
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I don't believe the Trumpies even thought about that. They assumed that Donald would point his itsy bitsy fingers at a guy and presto that automatically installed him. Like divine grace.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
As scary and troublesome as DeVos and Sessions are, we can fix those problems. This is why Pruitt has been the one I thought the Democrats should fight tooth and nail. There's a real and not insignificant chance that the damage done over the next four years might not be able to be undone. The consequences of that damage could be limitless in our own species-wide universe.
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I actually think Sessions is the highest risk for that. Even if Pruitt lets Exxon destroy the environment for a while, and even if that is awful, eventually his term ends when we throw the bums out.

Sessions, on the other hand, has the capacity to destroy the electoral system and render this a one party state, with voter suppression that makes what the Republicans have done so far look like Jeffersonian democracy. The Republicans now have their orc fingers wrapped around the jugular of election law and enforcement. We can expect the type of insanity we saw from the worst red state AGs to now go nationwide, with states being permitted to do anything they want to purge voter roles, selectively disenfranchise entire swaths of voters, and just generally rig the vote for their own self-perpetuation.

And if you think there is a Republican conscience to stop them, just look at the partisan reaction on this board, among intelligent and presumably sincere people, blindly accepting the GOP's lies and telling everybody they're getting too excited. That's how this stuff works: they ignore complaints and paint the complainers as alarmists. It can happen here -- it is happening here -- and it's something we've never seen before even from the most aggressively partisan past federal government of both persuasions. It's scary as hell.
 
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jerphisch said:
That explains absolutely nothing.
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You know what X, Y, and Z are going to favor. W is out in the cold, including trade within their own jurisdiction (not international) because they are going to follow the regulations. Does that make sense for W?
 
The Sicatoka said:
You know what X, Y, and Z are going to favor. W is out in the cold, including trade within their own jurisdiction (not international) because they are going to follow the regulations. Does that make sense for W?
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Sure it is. Except where B is something like oil and A is Alf pawgs. And except that W can't be bound by anything it didn't agree to. And X, Y, and Z have always been free to set their own rules as they see fit.
 
The Sicatoka said:
As has W.
Why bind yourself to rules that may work against you when you can choose to stay with rules you set for yourself.
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Because sometimes you might want something from the other countries? You're essentially asking why does anyone ever agree to anything that might not be in their immediate self interest.

Then again, that's not surprising given the rest of your political postings.
 
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unofan said:
Because sometimes you might want something from the other countries? You're essentially asking why does anyone ever agree to anything that might not be in their immediate self interest.

Then again, that's not surprising given the rest of your political postings.
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When you need it you deal. Either you reach a deal, or you don't.
 
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http://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...d-Russian-Intel-is-most-likely-much-more-fire

lolwut?

On Wednesday, former NSA intelligence analyst John Schindler provided some insight into the reaction of national security officials.

“Now we go nuclear,” he wrote on Twitter. “[Intelligence community] war going to new levels. Just got an [email from] senior [intelligence community] friend, it began: ‘He will die in jail.'”

“US intelligence is not the problem here,” Schindler added in another tweet. “The President’s collusion with Russian intelligence is. Many details, but the essence is simple.”
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I think someone is either off their meds or it's going to be an interesting next month or two.
 
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