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POTUS 45.38: Truth! Justice! And the American Way!!

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I’d like to ask my usual question here- what would have happened if obama had threatened to revoke clearances of people who didn’t agree with him on everything?

We seem to be missing conservative opinions in here lately since a lot of things really jumped the shark. I know Brent was on vacation but Brent isn’t one defending most of these asinine ideas anyway

Sicatoka is too busy protecting us from EMP attacks :p

In other news:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">1/ This is Heyli. She is a six-year-old migrant. In a video call with her mother on Friday, she was sobbing uncontrollably — rubbing her eyes and rocking back and forth. <br><br>She’s waiting to be reunited with her father. <a href="https://t.co/2L6Sa3VBJ8">https://t.co/2L6Sa3VBJ8</a> <a href="https://t.co/ssp1ni6Tqr">pic.twitter.com/ssp1ni6Tqr</a></p>— Texas Tribune (@TexasTribune) <a href="https://twitter.com/TexasTribune/status/1021535161320726539?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Read the whole thread...its friggin maddening.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/PressSec?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PressSec</a> says <a href="https://twitter.com/POTUS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@POTUS</a> considering revoking the security clearances of:<br><br>former CIA Director <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnBrennan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JohnBrennan</a>;<br>former DNI James Clapper; former FBI Director <a href="https://twitter.com/Comey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Comey</a>; former national security adviser <a href="https://twitter.com/AmbassadorRice?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AmbassadorRice</a>;<br>former deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe.</p>— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) <a href="https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1021469714848075776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"They've politicized and in some cases monetized their public service," says <a href="https://twitter.com/PressSec?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PressSec</a>, referring to the below officials. <br><br>(Note that President Obama did not revoke clearance of Mike Flynn despite his campaigning for then-candidate Trump.) <a href="https://t.co/Q1rmSYkztP">https://t.co/Q1rmSYkztP</a></p>— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) <a href="https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1021470093421826048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">And, she said, "making baseless accusations of improper relationship with Russia is inappropriate."<br><br>Nation's most prominent birther does not like baseless accusations. <a href="https://t.co/gVskQQmcRf">https://t.co/gVskQQmcRf</a></p>— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) <a href="https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1021473073898369024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Totally independent of the current POTUS pulling this ****, why do they still have clearances?
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wow! A whopping 1.2% all Pennsylvania workers got raises. That only leaves 6 million working Pennsylvanians who got nothing while your tax cuts went to corporations and the very wealthy. Do the math <a href="https://twitter.com/VP?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@VP</a> <a href="https://t.co/oSUE3wbYaw">https://t.co/oSUE3wbYaw</a></p>— Joel Benenson (@benensonj) <a href="https://twitter.com/benensonj/status/1021039715208781825?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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The results are verrrrry subtle: https://twitter.com/business/status/1021480288369733633
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/rkkamqka9J">pic.twitter.com/rkkamqka9J</a></p>— Ben Rosen (@ben_rosen) <a href="https://twitter.com/ben_rosen/status/1021256040795422721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Teehee :D
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Giuliani’s new “offer” to the Special Counsel: You can ask the President about conspiracy, but only if Trump’s answer can be limited to “no collusion, no collusion, no collusion.” As to obstruction of justice, no questions at all please.<br><br>Enough is enough. Time for a subpoena.</p>— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) <a href="https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/1021568954731520000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">He even recently declined a temporary clearance from the IG to read the classified annex to the IG’s recent report. He didn’t want to see any classified material lest the president accuse him of leaking it. 2/2</p>— Benjamin Wittes (@benjaminwittes) <a href="https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/1021485890751873024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wow! A whopping 1.2% all Pennsylvania workers got raises. That only leaves 6 million working Pennsylvanians who got nothing while your tax cuts went to corporations and the very wealthy. Do the math <a href="https://twitter.com/VP?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@VP</a> <a href="https://t.co/oSUE3wbYaw">https://t.co/oSUE3wbYaw</a></p>— Joel Benenson (@benensonj) <a href="https://twitter.com/benensonj/status/1021039715208781825?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Those salary increases should make up for the 40% drop in nationwide corporate tax revenue. When do we get the cool statistics of impacts of tariffs on the economy?
 
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Totally independent of the current POTUS pulling this ****, why do they still have clearances?

Many of the career employees serve on various boards within the various security agencies after leaving. So they need the clearances. That was explained on NPR this morning.
 
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The problem with trump -- and a problem that is absolutely never going to be solved -- is that every one of his supporters believe the verbal diarrhea that spews forth the entire time his mouth is open. Couple that with the fact that 90% of the republicans in the House and Senate won't even SPEAK ill of trump, let alone do anything about him. If we're lucky, enough people with a functional brain cell or two will be voting this November to remake congress. If that happens, we can at least return to the slower pace of suicide our society was engaging in in recent decades. If republicans hang on to both houses of congress (with tampering and -- especially -- voter suppression this is extremely possible and I think probable) it means we are well and truly fvcked. To me, if the republicans manage to hold on in November it will signal to me our democracy is truly dead.

Sadly, even if rational people manage to flip congress and trump is completely neutered, it still leaves in place a huge number of people (probably at least a third of the adults) who won't believe THAT election was legitimate. And those are the people with most of the guns. This country is going to be a mean and ugly place to live no matter who wins the elections for another generation at least. And that's even IF the good guys win.

It's scary to see local election ads touting who is the better supporter of the moron in the white house. So there are a LOT of people who buy into this crap, and enjoy being dropped to the bottom of the barrel.

We may see the stuff going on in Georgia- as that's national news, but here in Michigan, they are bragging on who is the more real supporter of dumpy. Amazing.
 
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"Tariffs are the greatest!" -The President of the United States
 
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Nah, conservative opinions have declined due to their false sense of martyrdom/persecution.

More like, we're bored to tears. In the absence of Kepler's acerbic wit, the Cafe political threads have devolved into Handy posting twitter links interspersed with the same posts people have made for 18 months. I didn't respond again the second time it was posted, why would I respond to the 48th re-posting of it.
 
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"Tariffs are the greatest!" -The President of the United States

Trump's trade war is economic suicide: Fox News

When President Trump imposed a 25 percent tariff on steel imports last month, America's largest nail manufacturer had little choice but to raise its prices. Mid Continent Nail Corporation quickly lost 50 percent of its orders as customers opted for cheaper suppliers. Within weeks, the firm had to lay off 60 workers. Up to 200 more might lose their jobs by the end of this month. If the tariff isn't lifted, the company could fold by September.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/24/trumps-trade-war-is-economic-suicide.html
 
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Totally independent of the current POTUS pulling this ****, why do they still have clearances?

after they leave government they carry with them a great deal of knowledge that might be useful. The sometimes retain clearance for some period so they can be consulted.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For those who thought <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OccupyLafayettePark?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OccupyLafayettePark</a> was a 1 night or a 1 week thing... these folks drove up from TENNESSEE and are standing in the rain to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StandUp?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#StandUp</a> to <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realDonaldTrump</a> <a href="https://t.co/9DB8aIe1t2">pic.twitter.com/9DB8aIe1t2</a></p>— Ian Mellul (@IanMellul) <a href="https://twitter.com/IanMellul/status/1021534057702875139?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Mostly posting this because of the awesome sign in the picture :)
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump tariffs threaten more than $200 million in Oklahoma exports <a href="https://t.co/XXdpVpxcVF">https://t.co/XXdpVpxcVF</a> <a href="https://t.co/afvcXw10pa">pic.twitter.com/afvcXw10pa</a></p>— The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1021765462789636098?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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More like, we're bored to tears. In the absence of Kepler's acerbic wit, the Cafe political threads have devolved into Handy posting twitter links interspersed with the same posts people have made for 18 months.

Change the dialog then.

What of today's major Trump contributions is a positive for the country?
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Whirlpool slashes profit outlook due to Trump tariffs it previously praised <a href="https://t.co/ImnINwJLFD">https://t.co/ImnINwJLFD</a> <a href="https://t.co/1jJMVDSZnv">pic.twitter.com/1jJMVDSZnv</a></p>— The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1021763195764137984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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