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POTUS 45.31: "The Caravan is Coming.""The Caravan is Coming."

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Handyman said:
What makes you think I am saying the GOP voters will abandon them. I dont even consider them when I discuss stuff like this because they stay home no matter what. The Blue Wave is coming because liberals are motivated. If he fires Mueller aint no one staying home.
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Which gives us a 50/50 coin flip.

Things will only materially change if this experience weaponizes prior non-voters against the GOP and Dump. That could happen, sure. But has it? Or is all that has happened the further commitment of Democrats? That in itself, while great, is not enough to cause a sea change in American politics. We can't just get the current crowd more excited. We have to open the doors and enlarge the crowd.
 
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Kepler said:
Which gives us a 50/50 coin flip.
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Sure. Because they have a built in 33%+ and the Dems have maybe a 15% build in of voters like me and Rover who don't go crybaby when their nominee loses.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Sure. Because they have a built in 33%+ and the Dems have maybe a 15% build in of voters like me and Rover who don't go crybaby when their nominee loses.
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Tiresome and already refuted.

The only thing you and Rover do is make sure the party never grows beyond 33%. There's a reason that final third isn't voting. The irrelevance of an upper middle class agenda to the problems of working people.

You don't have to love them. You don't even have to like them. I don't. But you do have to give them a reason to join your team. Because you haven't so they haven't.

I have some ideas.
 
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Kepler said:
Tiresome and already refuted.

The only thing you and Rover do is make sure the party never grows beyond 33%. There's a reason that final third isn't voting. The irrelevance of an upper middle class agenda to the problems of working people.

You don't have to love them. You don't even have to like them. I don't. But you do have to give them a reason to join your team. Because you haven't so they haven't.

I have some ideas.
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Not refuted. Again, I'm not the problem. You or the Democratic Party needs to find these people and convince them. I have a million reasons I could state right now that they should have voted for Hillary. It didn't matter. They cried and stayed home.
 
Kepler said:
No. The more Dump tears the fabric of democracy the more the crazies on the right get a stranglehold on our country. "We can't wait for our institutions to save us, we must save our institutions."

If Dump directed Sessions to put non-conservative federal justices under house arrest the Republican Congress would do nothing and Republican voters would cheer, and "thoughtful" conservatives would find REASONS why this was regrettable but necessary. There is no "line" that Dump could cross that would provoke the Republicans to stop him -- he is the ramrod they are using to repeal the 20th Century.

The only way back from the abyss is a complete takeover of every level of government followed by investigations, indictments, and convictions of every criminal and traitor, and punishments so severe that they won't try it again for another century.
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What makes you think there will be meaningful elections that might allow that to happen?
 
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ticapnews said:
What makes you think there will be meaningful elections that might allow that to happen?
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I'm hoping. I don't doubt at all that the sick regime in the White House and at the RNC would abolish democracy if it meant they could continue to keep their dying grasping talons on the levers of power. But hopefully we will have enough oversight from the parts of the government still under democratic control to stop them. And hopefully there will be hell to pay for them afterwards because this is a slow moving coup.

Conservatives will never see the threat because it's their team (they think; in reality the Plutes f-ck them even harder than us) and after 20 years of brainwashing that's all they care about. You can see that right here on this thread. So, again, it's up to us.
 
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Humorous local news- apparently Stormy Daniels has canceled an appearance at a local strip club. This is so important, it's in the first 10 min of the 6pm news in Detroit.

She's going to make a fortune on this. Well more than the hush money.
 
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alfablue said:
Humorous local news- apparently Stormy Daniels has canceled an appearance at a local strip club. This is so important, it's in the first 10 min of the 6pm news in Detroit.

She's going to make a fortune on this. Well more than the hush money.
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Good. Think about what she did (or better, don't). She earned every penny.

I'd say we should divide Dump's wealth between all the women who were willing to f-ck him, but seeing as his net worth is negative they'd wind up owing.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">First White House Bible study group in a century led by anti-gay, anti-Catholic, anti-women pastor <a href="https://t.co/yFEGRqkX9Q">https://t.co/yFEGRqkX9Q</a> <a href="https://t.co/6On7az7tDn">pic.twitter.com/6On7az7tDn</a></p>— Newsweek (@Newsweek) <a href="https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/984232154195472384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 12, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Senators introduce new bipartisan bill to protect Mueller <a href="https://t.co/LaMhmWxVQx">https://t.co/LaMhmWxVQx</a> <a href="https://t.co/I8vNfGbagt">pic.twitter.com/I8vNfGbagt</a></p>— The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/984231890587709440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 12, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">First White House Bible study group in a century led by anti-gay, anti-Catholic, anti-women pastor <a href="https://t.co/yFEGRqkX9Q">https://t.co/yFEGRqkX9Q</a> <a href="https://t.co/6On7az7tDn">pic.twitter.com/6On7az7tDn</a></p>— Newsweek (@Newsweek) <a href="https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/984232154195472384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 12, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Anti catholic? Lol
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The White House's deputy national security adviser for strategy, Nadia Schadlow, has resigned, the third senior National Security Council official to announce exit plans since John Bolton took the helm. <a href="https://t.co/WXz4Oyw1t3">https://t.co/WXz4Oyw1t3</a></p>— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) <a href="https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/984210778361393153?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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From NYT:
“Scott Pruitt wanted EPA swag — including challenge coins, fancy fountain pens and leather-bound notebooks — with his name featured prominently, but without the EPA seal, which he thought looked like a marijuana leaf.”
 
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bronconick said:
No kidding, you dolt.
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Its really too bad more of them aren't retiring so they'd feel free to occasionally do the right thing, or at least say the right thing after they do the wrong thing. Retiring or dying I suppose, I really don't care which. Actually that's not true. I wish more of them would be dying. Most of them. Screw it, all of them. I go could pick a hundred hobos off the streets and seat a more effective and fair Senate.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump tweet threatening missile strike on Syria surprised staff working on response to Syria: report <a href="https://t.co/kq7FihiQLP">https://t.co/kq7FihiQLP</a> <a href="https://t.co/ica9ZN0CuA">pic.twitter.com/ica9ZN0CuA</a></p>— The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/984250780256522242?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 12, 2018</a></blockquote>
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