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POTUS 45.3 - Bowling Green Massacre Memorial Thread

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Trump will just fire people like he fired his campaign managers over and over and over again. Trump won't get fired, he'll get reelected. The article talked about earlier practically proves it. Walker/Trump same same just on different levels of Government.
 
Uh... Are you related to Skip Bayless? Because that take is HOT.

He's right, we love abortions! Totally the same as wanting women's rights.

Drew and people like him are the reason people like Scott walker can be successful
 
They'd do well to take your advice. It's hard to know what the dems stand for other than protesting, abortions, and trying to put gun owners in jail.

And when I read statements like this, it makes me think you're a moron for believing it and the democrats as hapless for not combating this all too prevalent attitude.
 
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He's right, we love abortions! Totally the same as wanting women's rights.

Drew and people like him are the reason people like Scott walker can be successful

I don't like abortions. I'm not opposed to them, I just don't like them. I'm not sure you could find a single person who likes them. I'm certainly not unique in that stance. The difference between Drew and I is that I don't think it's government's responsibility or even within its purview to shove its head between a woman and her doctor.

I think there's some room for the father to be in that room, however, even that can ultimately go so far. It's her body in the end.
 
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And when I read statements like this, it mashes me think you're a moron for believing it and the democrats as hapless for not combating it.

How do you combat single-issue voting? Especially when it's religious or effectively religious (guns)
 
I don't like abortions. I'm not opposed to them, I just don't like them. I'm not sure you could find a single person who likes them. I'm certainly not unique in that stance. The difference between Drew and I is that I don't think it's government's responsibility or even within its purview to shove its head between a woman and her doctor.

I think there's some room for the father to be in that room, however, even that can ultimately go so far. It's her body in the end.

It's the "trying to put gun owners in jail" canard that gets me. Proof that the NRA clearly has a better propaganda machine than anything on the left.
 
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How do you combat single-issue voting? Especially when it's religious or effectively religious (guns)

You have to outvote them. That means showing up and that means voting Party over desire. Republicans successfully do this all the time.
 
How do you combat single-issue voting? Especially when it's religious or effectively religious (guns)

Indirectly by creating your own single issue voters and, where there's overlap, effectively turning them into non-single issue voters.
 
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And when I read statements like this, it makes me think you're a moron for believing it and the democrats as hapless for not combating this all too prevalent attitude.

But at some point though, don't voters themselves have to wake up? I thought it was pretty clear during the campaign that Trump would if given the opportunity appoint enough SCOTUS justices to overturn Roe v Wade. He was completely upfront about that. Likewise Hillary and crew pointed that out. Once again though I think Dems got complacent especially after the court threw out the "zoning restrictions" end around that knuckledraggers were trying. Maybe people do in fact need to lose their reproductive rights until they figure it out. Personally, if a bunch of Trump voters and non-voters lose their healthcare in the near future, I will shed not one tear for them. Same thing with this issue.
 
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But at some point though, don't voters themselves have to wake up? I thought it was pretty clear during the campaign that Trump would if given the opportunity appoint enough SCOTUS justices to overturn Roe v Wade. He was completely upfront about that. Likewise Hillary and crew pointed that out. Once again though I think Dems got complacent especially after the court threw out the "zoning restrictions" end around that knuckledraggers were trying. Maybe people do in fact need to lose their reproductive rights until they figure it out. Personally, if a bunch of Trump voters and non-voters lose their healthcare in the near future, I will shed not one tear for them. Same thing with this issue.

Voters would rather be lied to than have someone talking down to them. That's an impossible standard for the Democrats.
 
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They also rather have their guns than jobs or healthcare

As Kepler pointed out earlier all these people believe they're going to be rich one day. So, they want the rich screwing them over because they figure they'll be that person some day.

The one word that describes the United States voter today more than any other is delusion.
 
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I have a question. Can the states enter into a pact to provide single-payer to their citizens and collectively fund it?

Probably not, but it would be interesting on how that would be approached by the GOP. It would fall under the commerce clause because it's interstate and it would probably also have problems with being an accepted insurance plan in the deeply red states. Heck, those states may require a "government surcharge" for all bills sent to those states in the pact.
 
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As Kepler pointed out earlier all these people believe they're going to be rich one day. So, they want the rich screwing them over because they figure they'll be that person some day.

The one word that describes the United States voter today more than any other is delusion.

I think there may be some truth to that. However, I don't know if that's universally true or even true for most red staters. I think most of them would be content having a chicken in every pot.

That's probably why Hillbilly Elegy would be good reading for all Democrats. That and the article I posted a thread or two ago from Bill Moyers' website.
 
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Dershowitz in the (Canadian) Globe and Mail:

President Donald Trump avoided a constitutional crisis by appealing, rather than defying, an overbroad injunction against his visa executive order issued by a federal judge in Washington State.

My questions:
- Has a President ever defied an injunction against an EO?
- Did Dershowitz just call this injunction "overbroad"?
 
And when I read statements like this, it makes me think you're a moron for believing it and the democrats as hapless for not combating this all too prevalent attitude.

I wasn't being totally serious, but what would say the top three things are on the democrat's agenda?
 
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