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POTUS 45.20 - Doddering Dotards Dodging Detente

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BassAle said:
how much longer do you think Rex Drillerson will stick it out as SoS?
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I think longer than most others thing. For sure, Tillerson saw his appointment of a way to make a lot of money for him and his friends.

But that seems to have shifted to seeing himself as one of the few mature adults running this country. IMHO, he's one of a handful of people who have kept us from going to war with North Korea so far. And if he leaves, shooting may start quite quickly.

At least some of these guys can have a focus on *something* and for a while, that was making a lot of money on the backs of the US taxpayer. But dump has turned out to focus more on his image than anything useful to other people, which has really set up this administration for a huge internal conflict- the suck dumps dick people vs. the just plain old greedy people. And the plain old greedy people seem to understand that if dump gets his way, they will all lose a whole lot of money, let alone the country being put into a losing conflict all over the place.

Remember, most of these old greedy people are not racists, too- they were some of the behind the scenes crowd that were stunned by dump's saying that there were good white supremacists.

Anymore, people are staying on to combat dump and his moronic crap.
 
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alfablue said:
And the plain old greedy people seem to understand that if dump gets his way, they will all lose a whole lot of money
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Good point. Massive war and devastation is really the only way people that rich can be hurt. They want stability so they can quietly milk the US treasury dry like Ryan and his "tax reformers."
 
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St. Clown said:
Texas and Florida are both pretty brown, in case you've never visited either of them.
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That's precisely why I said red vs. blue, not brown vs. white.

But let's be honest, Dump doesn't even consider PR part of America. That's the real issue here.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Yep, always.

In other news, PR denied another waiver that TX and FL got. Red states good, blue territories bad.
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
That's precisely why I said red vs. blue, not brown vs. white.

But let's be honest, Dump doesn't even consider PR part of America. That's the real issue here.
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Yeah, I figured as much from you. rufus is just on his four-year seething at the moment and needs the occasional small moments to bring him back to the ground.

Trump might be the only POTUS since 1856 that can't identify any of the states outside of where he owns property. Let's not expect great things from his geographic acumen.
 
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St. Clown said:
Yeah, I figured as much from you. rufus is just on his four-year seething at the moment and needs the occasional small moments to bring him back to the ground.

Trump might be the only POTUS since 1856 that can't identify any of the states outside of where he owns property. Let's not expect great things from his geographic acumen.
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I don't think anyone is expecting anything from him but complete and utter disaster and chaos. The point about red and blue is valid. He has people working for him implementing policy.
 
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OMG, one of my friends on FB is going off the deep end. She posted this today in response to some lunatic website talking about the Vegas massacre:

We need to know who was really behind this. Who is really running this? Who has the money to do this? Who would want to keep division in this country? George Soros comes to mind and the likes of him. He and those that we don't know of, are so infiltrated in our government, that they have everything to gain by the saying divide and conquer.
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I'm getting a little worried for her sanity.
 
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St. Clown said:
Texas and Florida are both pretty brown, in case you've never visited either of them.
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Florida is like 60% non-hispanic white (maybe a little less). PR is probably single digits.


On a related note, in Florida lots of those brown people have lifetime bans from voting because of a felony conviction. Something like 31% of adult black males can't vote in Florida. Very convenient for the GOP...
 
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St. Clown said:
Trump might be the only POTUS since 1856 that can't identify any of the states outside of where he owns property.
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He is certainly the least intelligent president (beating Harding). He is probably also the most ignorant (beating Dubya).
 
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Scarlet said:
OMG, one of my friends on FB is going off the deep end. She posted this today in response to some lunatic website talking about the Vegas massacre:



I'm getting a little worried for her sanity.
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I love a good conspiracy but at some point you gotta take a deep breath and not type things into the Facebook or Twitter machine.
 
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Scarlet said:
OMG, one of my friends on FB is going off the deep end. She posted this today in response to some lunatic website talking about the Vegas massacre

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I'm getting a little worried for her sanity.
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This is a great opportunity, too. I would be fascinated to go through her thinking and see where the strangeness starts. I assume she is still clear that 2 + 2 = 4. We all differ on normative judgments so that's not interesting. There is a spectrum of judgments and the ability to reason that runs from the simple and empirically obvious to the subtle and highly complex (analytic a priori to synthetic a posteriori, Kant would say) and we all fall somewhere on it.

A longitudinal study would be even better. Have these people always been subrational, and politics is just something that gets balled up in it, or does the constant repetition of irrational influences on the internet actually remove people's rationality? Does anybody remember, for example, Flag being more rational back in the day?

This is fascinating. You should, gently, study her.
 
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Scarlet said:
OMG, one of my friends on FB is going off the deep end. She posted this today in response to some lunatic website talking about the Vegas massacre:



I'm getting a little worried for her sanity.
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You need to be choosier with whom you call a "friend". There's no saving people who are in that deep.
 
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leswp1 said:
Plenty of people attempted to pass laws, increase awareness by education, went out en-mass to protest, wrote their elected officials, etc. I am not sure what else they could do?


I think they have become so sophisticated in their ability to predict who will run and annihilate their character that even if someone was an angel they would look bad. I wasn't necessarily a fan of Hillary but if you fact checked what they were selling- from the time she was first lady- you would find that many of the things you believed about her would be wrong. You say something enough times and people begin to believe it is true. They have a whole algorithm that feeds on itself to spread what they want- start with the little blogs who quote each other until there are enough of them the bigger outlets quote it as fact. True for both sides. Many of the politician are real skanks but not all of them are horrible. A fair number of them start out wanting to make a difference except now, with the nutbags blackballing anyone who compromises, they can't
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Which is why Trumpy keeps talking about how everyone says he did such a great job with the hurricane relief, how so many people are saying its going so well. Might be true, might not be, but that's all his followers hear, and that's what they believe. Puerto Rico is a paradise, all because of Donnie.
 
Kepler said:
This is a great opportunity, too. I would be fascinated to go through her thinking and see where the strangeness starts. I assume she is still clear that 2 + 2 = 4. We all differ on normative judgments so that's not interesting. There is a spectrum of judgments and the ability to reason that runs from the simple and empirically obvious to the subtle and highly complex (analytic a priori to synthetic a posteriori, Kant would say) and we all fall somewhere on it.

A longitudinal study would be even better. Have these people always been subrational, and politics is just something that gets balled up in it, or does the constant repetition of irrational influences on the internet actually remove people's rationality? Does anybody remember, for example, Flag being more rational back in the day?

This is fascinating. You should, gently, study her.
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I don't think there is any doubt it does. I've observed in a few people I know that they buy certain lines of thinking way more than is normal. I think people looking at their phones all the time is probably messing up a lot of brains too.
 
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St. Clown said:
Texas and Florida are both pretty brown, in case you've never visited either of them.
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Those parts aren't the real Texas and Florida. Trumpy don't care about them, either.
 
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In response to Scarlet's friend...seems a bit off the deep end to me. But, I wouldn't be surprised if this guy wasn't acting alone, and he had some other interest backing him. Do I think it is some government conspiracy like was suggested, **** no. It is just not out the realm of possibility that this guy was acting as an agent of some kind of nefarious group, some domestic terror group. Similar to the OKC bombing.
 
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