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POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

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Not surprising. Unfortunately, Wonkette "articles" read like one of Rover's posts. Which is to say, they make Kepler's diatribes look modest. :)

So, here's what I don't understand. Kep thinks I'm a flaming centrist who makes Joe Leiberman look liberal, while you guys think I make Lizzy Warren look conservative.

I'm a little confused right now... :confused: :D
 
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Yes it matters. Tchumpistas are still a minority and will remain as such. I repeat we are not even remotely close to having conditions similar to those of 1930's Germany and no amount of hyperbole (from Trump supporters nor those that fear them) is going to change that.

Since you are saying that we are not going backwards- can you explain dumps policies that are there to roll back work that has been done making sure people get equal rights?

The "voter fraud" of 3M BS is totally about voter suppression. If you don't think that, you are in denial. The fact that they are going down some kind of voter fraud issue with zero evidence of any think but a handful of bad votes scattered around the county- claiming that there's voter fraud on a massive scale- that screams of trying to suppress people.

Then we have the EO that is asking the justice dept to look into reverse racism in terms of college applications. Give me a break. On a national level, minorities are not even close to being represented on campus, and have a tiny amount of the higher education skill set in the industry. It's been such a short time since it was legal to deny admission based on race that it will take a lot of time to get anywhere near a representative amount.

So we have those two rather interesting policies, and now dump can't bother to tell david duke to ****** off, instead he just accepts that these guys looking to take rights away from others are somehow a legitimate thing.

Is it the *same* as Germany in the 30's? Of course not. But there are some parallels that should make us stand up and make sure that it does not go any further at all.
 
Wait, you think this is only about race?

Really?

Is that what you think BLM is about, too?

There's one glaring difference between the two- one side is fighting to get all of the rights that the law gives them- so that everyone is equal under the law. The other side if fighting to take that away.

There's a MASSIVE moral difference in the two groups because of that.

It's *barely* been 50 years since the law made everyone equal, and that it was against the law to deny something due to their race. It's been just over a year since LBGT have been given the equal right that they can be married.

We pretend that we are a country of rights, but until we all have the same rights, and we are treated equally to the law- NOT BIASED- then we still have work to do.

It's too bad that you can't see that. Or want to deny it.

Huh?

Mookie's not sure what you are trying to get it, but it has nothing good to do with what he was replying to rover about :confused:

Pretty sure rovsie and Mookie were talking about white folk
 
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Since you are saying that we are not going backwards- can you explain dumps policies that are there to roll back work that has been done making sure people get equal rights?

1. I never said we're not going backwards however
2. I will argue the conditions that exist now have existed for decades
3. I don't need to explain Tchump's policies because I'm not here to defend him in any way, shape or form

What happened in VA was tragic and should make people sit up and think. Long and hard. Our President had a golden opportunity to rally the country and to make us feel better about ourselves and instead showed his true character - a gutless, hateful, spiteful POS.

None of this changes the fact we're not approaching the conditions of 1930's Germany and there's not enough parallels running deep and wide enough you can draw to counter that observation.
 
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Huh?

Mookie's not sure what you are trying to get it, but it has nothing good to do with what he was replying to rover about :confused:

Pretty sure rovsie and Mookie were talking about white folk

You posted that the only difference between the two groups in Charleston is that one supported whites, the other everyone else.

These are the words you posted

one side was saying whites are superior. the other says we know that and love the darkies and want to take care of them.


where's the difference?

Which says that the difference is all about race.

And I'm pointing out that a higher difference is FOR equal rights vs AGAINST equal rights.

That's what you posted, if you posted words that you didn't mean, why did you post them?
 
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1. I never said we're not going backwards however
2. I will argue the conditions that exist now have existed for decades
3. I don't need to explain Tchump's policies because I'm not here to defend him in any way, shape or form

What happened in VA was tragic and should make people sit up and think. Long and hard. Our President had a golden opportunity to rally the country and to make us feel better about ourselves and instead showed his true character - a gutless, hateful, spiteful POS.

None of this changes the fact we're not approaching the conditions of 1930's Germany and there's not enough parallels running deep and wide enough you can draw to counter that observation.

Ok, so you can bury your head in the sand all you want.

There's more than enough going on that people want to take legal rights away from other people just because of who they are. First of all, that has to be stopped at all costs. But if you continue to just let if go unchecked, this will get ugly.

You don't seem to want to nip this in the bud just because our economy is better than Germany. That's it. BFD.
 
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So, here's what I don't understand. Kep thinks I'm a flaming centrist who makes Joe Leiberman look liberal, while you guys think I make Lizzy Warren look conservative.

I'm a little confused right now... :confused: :D

I don't think you make Warren look conservative at all. If anything, you're obviously to the right of her on economics and drugs.

It all has to do with tone and style.
 
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Bannonbart, indeed. The long knives are being sharpened:

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I said not 2 hours ago this would happen. The racists will turn now and talk about how Trump is a Jew loving commie. They will shop a new candidate in 3 years.

Bannon just bent Trump over a barrel because in 3 years when Trump has accomplished nothing the Left is going to link him to racism and the Right is going to hate that he couldnt get anything he promised done. (and likely lead to a Dem windfall in the midterms) If the racists leave he is in trouble. He better start restricting votes now...
 
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1. I never said we're not going backwards however
2. I will argue the conditions that exist now have existed for decades
3. I don't need to explain Tchump's policies because I'm not here to defend him in any way, shape or form

What happened in VA was tragic and should make people sit up and think. Long and hard. Our President had a golden opportunity to rally the country and to make us feel better about ourselves and instead showed his true character - a gutless, hateful, spiteful POS.

None of this changes the fact we're not approaching the conditions of 1930's Germany and there's not enough parallels running deep and wide enough you can draw to counter that observation.

Makes sense to me.
 
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Oh, spare me. He wasn't going to go until he gave that stupid interview. He pulled a mooch. Had nothing to do with Kelley.

Who sacked 'mucci after an untoward interview? Kelley.
Who sacked Bannon after an untoward interview? ... Kelley.

I predicted Kelley had to sack Bannon (ala 'mucci) else he'd lose his credibility. And he did. <-- Nailed it.
 
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Yeah you really stepped out on a ledge to predict the same thing people have been predicting for a while now. Is the sun going to rise to more Nostradamus ;)

You're upset because you figured Bannon would find a way to hang on.

Marines don't like it when you break ranks. Bannon had to go.
 
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We need to quit referring to these racist scumbags like the Virginia protesters as white-nationalists and just call them what they are, white supremacists. The right loves catchy phrases and slogans, like death tax, Obamacare is in a death spiral and make America great again. Responsible media need to refer to things as what they actually are. Been working at home and have had on CNN or NPR all day long and they all refer endlessly to the alt-right and white nationalists.
 
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