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POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

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We're at least a couple of decades late in getting that monument to Admiral Yamamoto up in downtown Honolulu. This country used to be able to get things done. :mad: MAGA
 
Do not EVER lump me in with neo-Nazi apologists. I will defend their right to peaceful free speech, and that's it. Period. I am quite bothered by your label, and take great offense.

I think he was just taking the mickey. He's a mischievous one that Rover.
 
No, racism was definetly alive and well in 1916. Pretty sure this was a "gentle" reminder to any "darkies" traveling through Montana that a large group of "good ole boys" lived in the area.

And don't forget Oregon (territory from 1848 to 1859, statehood after) was a racist utopia while going under the guise of a "free state" during the Civil War.




Also, when the 15th Amendment (prohibits the federal and state governments from denying a citizen the right to vote based on that citizen's "race, color, or previous condition of servitude") was ratified in 1870, Oregon, along with seven other states refused to approve of the amendment. It passed (obviously) without their approval. But Oregon finally caved to formally ratifying the amendment in... 1959.
(It wasn't the last hold out from officially recognizing black men as equals; that would go to: California 1962,
Maryland 1973, Kentucky 1976, and Tennessee 1997. :eek:)





And if through all this, you still think the Daughters of the Confederacy is a cutesy way of honoring the families of the Confederate soldiers, holy fu**, you couldn't be more wrong.
People don't understand how insulting the whole "reverse racism" BS is. Especially when brought up with the "I'm from the north. We fought to end slavery" reasoning that commonly comes with it.

There is a LOT more to racism than slavery. Granted, that generally is one of the worst aspects.

The Detroit riots in 1943 and 1967 were not about slavery.
 
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Do not EVER lump me in with neo-Nazi apologists. I will defend their right to peaceful free speech, and that's it. Period. I am quite bothered by your label, and take great offense.


Then stop acting like one.


And you're offended by something posted on a message board? You need to get out more.
 
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People don't understand how insulting the whole "reverse racism" BS is. Especially when brought up with the "I'm from the north. We fought to end slavery" reasoning that commonly comes with it.

There is a LOT more to racism than slavery. Granted, that generally is one of the worst aspects.

The Detroit riots in 1943 and 1967 were not about slavery.

Or the Boston busing riots. The South laughed their *ss*s off at the Northerners for that one.
 
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Appears Susan Bro after losing her daughter is strong enough to be the moral authority of the United States and not the President.

Let's the Republican Party's Misogyny commence.
 
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Appears Susan Bro after losing her daughter is strong enough to be the moral authority of the United States and not the President.

Let's the Republican Party's Misogyny commence.

Susan Bro

Less than a week since her daughter Heather Heyer was killed in Charlottesville, Susan Bro says she has received threats against her life.

“I’ve had death threats already … because of what I’m doing right this second,” Bro told MSNBC on Thursday, one day after Heyer was buried and a vigil at the University of Virginia drew hundreds of candle-bearing supporters. Heyer died Saturday during protests of a white supremacist rally after a driver with alleged Nazi sympathies drove into a crowd. The attack also left 19 injured.

Bro said President Trump’s insistence that there is blame “on both sides” — counterprotesters and throngs of white nationalists objecting to the planned removal of a Robert E. Lee statue — was “irrelevant” because Heyer was a peaceful protester.
 
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Considering the ability to expertly manipulate the media do you think that matters? There are certain sites that will tell you the same conditions exist now.

I think that claiming conditions in the U.S., today, relating to neo-nazis or the nazi party are at all similar to Nazi Germany in the 1930's is a substantial exaggeration, and frankly, gives the white supremacists in this country way more credit than they deserve. I think a candid examination of the facts would suggest that nazi activity in this country doesn't even approach 1930's U.S. levels, let alone Nazi Germany.

White supremacy, nazi ideology, or whatever you want to call it, has existed in this country since it's formation, and it will continue to exist. You can't kill or rid the world of ideas or thoughts. All that changes is the activity level, and the public or private nature of that activity. Usually those changes are triggered by some event or condition, such as the Reconstruction, the Voting Rights Act, forced busing or desegregation, the election of the first African American president, etc...

It flares up, like a smoldering fire suddenly given an infusion of air, but then dies back down again for the simple reason of not enough fuel. Say what you want about the people in this country, or even half the people in this country as many of you have singled out. The overwhelming majority of citizens in this country would never even think about participating in that debacle in Virginia this past weekend. Two thousand knuckleheads, or however many were there, are not going to take over this country.
 
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Hovey, these guys just threatened the parents of a person they killed.

How is it they are not like the brownshirts again?

Stop bringing up the general economy and look at what they are doing and some of the reactions. History is repeating itself.
 
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What do Neo Nazis care about the Confederacy...I will hang up and listen.

You can try and dress it up however you like...the facts dont support your thesis man.

Um, I am of the belief that the statues were simply about racism, and many on here said that was mostly wrong. That the statues were about the Confederacy and being a traitor.
 
Um, I am of the belief that the statues were simply about racism, and many on here said that was mostly wrong. That the statues were about the Confederacy and being a traitor.

I might have tiredly misunderstood your post before I responded with the history lesson last night. I thought you mistook my sarcasm of the Helena monument being built a generation after the civil war ended, in a remote outpost where ex-gray coats retreated to after the war, as a tribute to them and not the (not-so-)subtle racism they imply.

I apologize, as it seems we're on the same side (-ish?) regarding the meaning behind the statues.
 
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they got their man in the White House.
The fact that this group of tiki torch bearing clowns voted for the same person for President that nearly half the other voters did does not mean they are taking control of the country. I'm sure there are serial killers, drunk college students and stoners who voted for Trump as well. That doesn't mean we have to fear those groups seizing control over the country.

Trump should have disavowed their actions. Any sane politician would have. I'm sure that if Clinton were elected and some idiot shot up a school wearing a Clinton/Kane t-shirt, she would have quickly disavowed any association with him and condemned his actions. That's what Trump should have done.

The reason he didn't is because he's Trump. If you stand on a street corner and shout that Trump is the greatest President in history, you could probably blow up the Capitol building and he'd hesitate to condemn you. If you think he's great, he's never going to say a bad word about you because he thinks that reflects poorly on him.
 
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The overwhelming majority of citizens in this country would never even think about participating in that debacle in Virginia this past weekend. Two thousand knuckleheads, or however many were there, are not going to take over this country.

63,000,000 > 2,000. That 63,000,000 people could vote for a walking, talking example of underware skidmarks kinda tells me that we have a little more to worry about than 2000 knuckleheads. And it doesn't even take 63,000,000,000 to topple a country. A few thousand -- hell maybe a few hundred -- in the wrong places at the right times might do it.

There can be no equivocation on the condemnation of either trump or the white supremacists. As long as there is one left to breathe or think, the rest of us who DON'T share those views better be speaking out very loudly, shouting in fact, from the highest mountaintops warning good people everywhere that this kind of hatred and cancer is in our midst.
 
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