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POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.
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Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.
I somehow missed this swine among the sounder* of Trumpies.
* I just learned this. It is awesome and basically the excuse for the post.
I somehow missed this swine among the sounder* of Trumpies.
* I just learned this. It is awesome and basically the excuse for the post.
leswp1
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Re: POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.
-people lie of FB, have accounts that put nothing personal on them or have multiple accounts, nothing online should be trusted.
-have mutual acquaintances who lie for them, actively work to perpetrate a lie because they are uncomfortable, have no morals or think the other relationship should be dead so this might help kill it
-how are you completely sure they are finished? I can't tell you the number of my patients who were 'completely finished' after the spouse cheated, lied, verbally abused or physically assaulted them. They meant every word they said when they said it. Next visit the completely finished had morphed into forgiving spouse, deciding they had to stay for financial reasons, the kids or [fill in the blank]. This was true even after a divorce happened. They would still be enmeshed.
I am not quite sure why I am responding because this might be the most stupid line of reasoning yet. I can't help myself. You do realize that
-people lie of FB, have accounts that put nothing personal on them or have multiple accounts, nothing online should be trusted.
-have mutual acquaintances who lie for them, actively work to perpetrate a lie because they are uncomfortable, have no morals or think the other relationship should be dead so this might help kill it
-how are you completely sure they are finished? I can't tell you the number of my patients who were 'completely finished' after the spouse cheated, lied, verbally abused or physically assaulted them. They meant every word they said when they said it. Next visit the completely finished had morphed into forgiving spouse, deciding they had to stay for financial reasons, the kids or [fill in the blank]. This was true even after a divorce happened. They would still be enmeshed.
and don't forget to blame something on Hillary!!
WeAreNDHockey
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Re: POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.
The left may be just as much to blame for the way "news" is presented on cable TV as the right is but I absolutely hate watching 99.9% of it. The notion that every segment must be co-anchored by columnists on both sides of the aisle has led to all of the dumbing down and appealing to the lowest common denominator crap that we've been putting up with for years. It ramped up to a great extent after FOX News debuted because CNN probably feared losing viewers if they did not present a "conservative" foil to the news which often showed republicans doing stupid things that gained the country nothing but ridicule, like impeaching clinton for getting some skull. But what they -- and all news outlets need to remember -- is it isn't about presenting all "sides" of an issue, its telling us what happened. I don't want the news to be impartial, or fair and balanced, or liberal or conservative. I want it accurate. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't think FOX tries to do this, but MSNBC does to a certain extent, and CNN, in their efforts to convince us they are the one network driving right down the middle of the road, does it all the time. Hasn't anyone realized that when you drive right down the middle of the road you knock people on both sides into the ditch?
That said, Jeffrey Lord was a d-bag of the highest order
The left may be just as much to blame for the way "news" is presented on cable TV as the right is but I absolutely hate watching 99.9% of it. The notion that every segment must be co-anchored by columnists on both sides of the aisle has led to all of the dumbing down and appealing to the lowest common denominator crap that we've been putting up with for years. It ramped up to a great extent after FOX News debuted because CNN probably feared losing viewers if they did not present a "conservative" foil to the news which often showed republicans doing stupid things that gained the country nothing but ridicule, like impeaching clinton for getting some skull. But what they -- and all news outlets need to remember -- is it isn't about presenting all "sides" of an issue, its telling us what happened. I don't want the news to be impartial, or fair and balanced, or liberal or conservative. I want it accurate. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't think FOX tries to do this, but MSNBC does to a certain extent, and CNN, in their efforts to convince us they are the one network driving right down the middle of the road, does it all the time. Hasn't anyone realized that when you drive right down the middle of the road you knock people on both sides into the ditch?
That said, Jeffrey Lord was a d-bag of the highest order
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
On election night that guy was so awful he made me want to reach through the tv and choke him.
Re: POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.
Sure, that could be true, but wasn't he a little busy at that moment in time? Guys definitely do tons of scummy stuff, but its hard for me to believe he would have gone through all that to get with a six. Without knowing all the facts its hard to properly apportion blame, which is why I am going 50/50 until I hear otherwise. I certainly try to have empathy for people, but their actions are going to have massive repercussions for four other people who had nothing to do with it. Hopefully there is some sort of happy outcome for everyone involved.
Sure, that could be true, but wasn't he a little busy at that moment in time? Guys definitely do tons of scummy stuff, but its hard for me to believe he would have gone through all that to get with a six. Without knowing all the facts its hard to properly apportion blame, which is why I am going 50/50 until I hear otherwise. I certainly try to have empathy for people, but their actions are going to have massive repercussions for four other people who had nothing to do with it. Hopefully there is some sort of happy outcome for everyone involved.
leswp1
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Re: POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.
Probably more than 4 people. The people who did it, the spouses, the kids, the extended family, the friends who don't know who to be loyal to or feel betrayed because they think trust has been abused.
I struggled with this when I was first in practice. It is a sucky situation. I wanted to pass judgement, get mad and have someone to blame. I would listen, be all for the person I was seeing and find out something that made me need to rethink. You never know all the variables, what the background was, etc. Most of the time they have issues and the affair is the symptom, not the cause. People feel guilty and remorseful at least part of the time. Pretty unusual to have someone who had no conscience and slept with anyone who had what was required between the legs. Those folks were serial offenders. They selfishly wanted to make sure they didn't catch anything but also liked to use the excuse to brag about getting a piece. Those are the people who I mourned the advent of being able to use pee instead of a large q-tip to get the sample for the test. :/
Looks aren't everything. Considering the environment- a guy who thinks grabbing peoples kitties is normal, etc.....
Probably more than 4 people. The people who did it, the spouses, the kids, the extended family, the friends who don't know who to be loyal to or feel betrayed because they think trust has been abused.
I struggled with this when I was first in practice. It is a sucky situation. I wanted to pass judgement, get mad and have someone to blame. I would listen, be all for the person I was seeing and find out something that made me need to rethink. You never know all the variables, what the background was, etc. Most of the time they have issues and the affair is the symptom, not the cause. People feel guilty and remorseful at least part of the time. Pretty unusual to have someone who had no conscience and slept with anyone who had what was required between the legs. Those folks were serial offenders. They selfishly wanted to make sure they didn't catch anything but also liked to use the excuse to brag about getting a piece. Those are the people who I mourned the advent of being able to use pee instead of a large q-tip to get the sample for the test. :/
Re: POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.
Was it Roberts or was it Pulver?
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/
fiscal/social scale and how they voted. There is an almost empty quadrant..
@RyanTAnd: Almost no "fiscally conservative, socially liberal" voters. But sure, build your electoral strategy that way... @WSJopinion @fbuckley https://twitter.com/RyanTAnd/status/895651901814915073/photo/1
Was it Roberts or was it Pulver?
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/
fiscal/social scale and how they voted. There is an almost empty quadrant..
@RyanTAnd: Almost no "fiscally conservative, socially liberal" voters. But sure, build your electoral strategy that way... @WSJopinion @fbuckley https://twitter.com/RyanTAnd/status/895651901814915073/photo/1
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Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.
It's a weird world where Nikki Haley counts as a "wise old head."
(Reading between the lines, two of her UN aides quit because they opposed her policy of not being just a blowhard swinging d-ck on the world stage. Presumably she'll p-ss off Donnie Dumpster at some point.)
It's a weird world where Nikki Haley counts as a "wise old head."
(Reading between the lines, two of her UN aides quit because they opposed her policy of not being just a blowhard swinging d-ck on the world stage. Presumably she'll p-ss off Donnie Dumpster at some point.)
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/11/trump-tweets-north-korea-escalation-241526
**** me...
Also, didn't this ******* say he wasn't going to reveal his plans?
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/11/trump-tweets-north-korea-escalation-241526
**** me...
Also, didn't this ******* say he wasn't going to reveal his plans?
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.
And people didn't vote for Hillary because, why?
jfc.
And people didn't vote for Hillary because, why?
jfc.
Re: POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.
That poll very my depends on how they define "fiscally conservative"
Is it just about cutting the budget and "making the government smaller"? But not actually balancing the budget? That's exactly what R's have been doing since 1980.
Or does it mean a government that dose stuff, but does it with a more balance budget? As of yet, D's have not deviated from that plan.
I've never understood how real R voters can stand by their party worry so much about the deficit and debt, when their party has been the one who built that up via their votes over the decades. It's always- increase military spending, cut other funding not equally, and then cut taxes. When was the last actual balanced budget that R's have come out with? President Clinton at least has a surplus by the time he was done.
So, again, as every poll- the results are very dependent on what the question was, and how "fiscally conservative" was defined.
That poll very my depends on how they define "fiscally conservative"
Is it just about cutting the budget and "making the government smaller"? But not actually balancing the budget? That's exactly what R's have been doing since 1980.
Or does it mean a government that dose stuff, but does it with a more balance budget? As of yet, D's have not deviated from that plan.
I've never understood how real R voters can stand by their party worry so much about the deficit and debt, when their party has been the one who built that up via their votes over the decades. It's always- increase military spending, cut other funding not equally, and then cut taxes. When was the last actual balanced budget that R's have come out with? President Clinton at least has a surplus by the time he was done.
So, again, as every poll- the results are very dependent on what the question was, and how "fiscally conservative" was defined.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.
Trump Does Not Like Being Criticized
Overhauling the Tax Code will be next to impossible since they most likely cant do it with Reconciliation and the Democratic Caucus went Grover Nordquist on the bit and signed a pledge saying they wont vote for any tax reform that cuts taxes on the wealthy or increases the deficit. (according to the article 45 of 48 signed it) Unless they find a way to make it revenue neutral Paul Ryan's keg stand dreams will pass away into the ether.
You gotta love the balls on Donny...I doubt Mitch is crying that the Orange Baboon doesnt like him anymore.
Trump Does Not Like Being Criticized
Bloomberg said:
Overhauling the Tax Code will be next to impossible since they most likely cant do it with Reconciliation and the Democratic Caucus went Grover Nordquist on the bit and signed a pledge saying they wont vote for any tax reform that cuts taxes on the wealthy or increases the deficit. (according to the article 45 of 48 signed it) Unless they find a way to make it revenue neutral Paul Ryan's keg stand dreams will pass away into the ether.
You gotta love the balls on Donny...I doubt Mitch is crying that the Orange Baboon doesnt like him anymore.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.
Pledges are stupid.
Pledges are stupid.
Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.
That makes sense. I'm an "Independent" as well, but I have never voted for a Republican for President. Indeed, most Independents that I know are solidly in the middle of either the left or the right. Sicatoka seems to fit this to a tee, solidly in the middle of the right. Now, if Sicatoka claimed to be a Centrist, well...then we'd have another Fishy on our hands.
That makes sense. I'm an "Independent" as well, but I have never voted for a Republican for President. Indeed, most Independents that I know are solidly in the middle of either the left or the right. Sicatoka seems to fit this to a tee, solidly in the middle of the right. Now, if Sicatoka claimed to be a Centrist, well...then we'd have another Fishy on our hands.
Re: POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.
"Thank you sir, may I have another"......
"Thank you sir, may I have another"......
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.
Maybe but with how wishy washy Dems tend to be they need them
(and they work just ask Grover)
The Man Trump Wants to Be Head of the USDA
Good lord...
Maybe but with how wishy washy Dems tend to be they need them
(and they work just ask Grover)The Man Trump Wants to Be Head of the USDA
The Daily Dot said:
Good lord...
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.
This. There is no such thing as an actual Independent, it's just a label for people who eschew labels. But they're just as partisan and locked in as the party members.
This. There is no such thing as an actual Independent, it's just a label for people who eschew labels. But they're just as partisan and locked in as the party members.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.
It will get worse before it gets better. There are a huge number of these people out there.
The thing this election taught is that gatekeepers are good and the mob is a foolish, fearful, wild animal. The mob themselves will even eventually learn this, but there is too much destructive power and we can't afford the lesson.
It will get worse before it gets better. There are a huge number of these people out there.
The thing this election taught is that gatekeepers are good and the mob is a foolish, fearful, wild animal. The mob themselves will even eventually learn this, but there is too much destructive power and we can't afford the lesson.
Re: POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.
Dems are correct on taxes for once. 1) No tax cuts for the rich, and 2) it has to be paid for. This basically gives cover to the Dems in vulnerable seats as most Americans actually agree with this and its clear and concise. Let Goopers tear themselves apart between bought and paid for corp types (Ryan) and nationalists (Bannon). I believe Schumer made that statement and I have to say the guy has surprised me so far in that he's been a far better Senate leader of the Dems than I ever expected.
I think Itch is worried because somebody's actually calling him out on being impotent when it comes to actually passing legislation. The lamestream media has been too lazy or afraid to since they keep pimping press releases from his campaign saying how he's a genius and never count him out and all that nonsense. There's zero he can do to avoid a Trump twitter onslaught however and its putting the ancient knuckledragger in an uncomfortable position.
Dems are correct on taxes for once. 1) No tax cuts for the rich, and 2) it has to be paid for. This basically gives cover to the Dems in vulnerable seats as most Americans actually agree with this and its clear and concise. Let Goopers tear themselves apart between bought and paid for corp types (Ryan) and nationalists (Bannon). I believe Schumer made that statement and I have to say the guy has surprised me so far in that he's been a far better Senate leader of the Dems than I ever expected.
I think Itch is worried because somebody's actually calling him out on being impotent when it comes to actually passing legislation. The lamestream media has been too lazy or afraid to since they keep pimping press releases from his campaign saying how he's a genius and never count him out and all that nonsense. There's zero he can do to avoid a Trump twitter onslaught however and its putting the ancient knuckledragger in an uncomfortable position.
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