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POTUS 45.15 - Now With More Yacht Banging Stories!

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for what it's worth, melania has as much chance as arnold schwarzenegger to be president :D
 
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If you look at it in an isolated way- I wouldn't put anyone over the other (Melania doesn't count. She seems to be completely disengaged from anything that would normally constitute the First Lady role except on the most superficial level.) But...Wouldn't you consider this on a more comprehensive level? Hillary was first in the White House where she was exposed to many leaders- nationally and internationally, had to form alliances, deal with protocol, go out and be an 'ambassador' for many things. She then progressed to the Senate where she did the usual things, then Sec of State where she again had to deal with people on a national and international level in some very sticky situations. Having been in all 3 roles would make her more well rounded and likely to see nuances than the others.

Don't get me wrong, I believe Clinton is more than qualified for the Presidency, and she certainly had one of the more unique set of qualifications among Presidential nominees in the last 60 years. I also think Trump was arguably the least qualified nominee in the same time frame. However, this tangent sort of got started when ScoobyDoo claimed that Clinton was the most qualified candidate in the last 60 years. I don't believe that is true, at least when looking at her objective qualifications.
 
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Don't get me wrong, I believe Clinton is more than qualified for the Presidency, and she certainly had one of the more unique set of qualifications among Presidential nominees in the last 60 years. I also think Trump was arguably the least qualified nominee in the same time frame. However, this tangent sort of got started when ScoobyDoo claimed that Clinton was the most qualified candidate in the last 60 years. I don't believe that is true, at least when looking at her objective qualifications.

I never claimed it wasn't a subjective argument.
 
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Don't get me wrong, I believe Clinton is more than qualified for the Presidency, and she certainly had one of the more unique set of qualifications among Presidential nominees in the last 60 years. I also think Trump was arguably the least qualified nominee in the same time frame. However, this tangent sort of got started when ScoobyDoo claimed that Clinton was the most qualified candidate in the last 60 years. I don't believe that is true, at least when looking at her objective qualifications.

41 was without doubt the most qualified of the last 60 yrs
 
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I never claimed it wasn't a subjective argument.

I just find it interesting that you think Hillary was more qualified as a nominee than say Richard Nixon, Hubert H. Humphrey, Walter Mondale, George H.W. Bush, or Al Gore.
 
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41 was without doubt the most qualified of the last 60 yrs

If you like the well-rounded candidate, it is hard to argue. Bush was a U.S. Rep, U.N. Ambassador, Chief Liaison to China, CIA Director, and Vice President. Throw in his military experience, and his qualifications are pretty hard to top.
 
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What is being First Lady objectively worth? I would argue very little, if anything. Certainly being a Senator, Representative, or a Mayor is worth more, yes? If not, is Laura Bush more qualified than Elizabeth Warren? Is Melania Trump?

Objectively not much but there is ample evidence Hillary was very involved as first lady. She is closer to Eleanor Roosevelt than say Ladybird Johnson.

Hillary was working directly with Congress on Health Care in the 90s...she wasnt just giving speeches and taking photo ops.

And Gore was the most qualified in my lifetime for President...the mans credentials were insane.

edit: Yeah HW Bush was the most...forgot about him :/
 
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Objectively not much but there is ample evidence Hillary was very involved as first lady. She is closer to Eleanor Roosevelt than say Ladybird Johnson.

Hillary was working directly with Congress on Health Care in the 90s...she wasnt just giving speeches and taking photo ops.

And Gore was the most qualified in my lifetime for President...the mans credentials were insane.

edit: Yeah HW Bush was the most...forgot about him :/

So what would you ascribe Hillary's time as First Lady to be worth? 2 years as a U.S. Representative? 2 years as a Rep + 1 year as an Ambassador? 4 years as a Rep + 4 years as an Ambassador?
 
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Define better shape? Are we talking aesthetically pleasing, which is more symmetrically round or who can go up the stairs without getting out of breath??

There is no definition where what I said is not true. :P
 
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41 was without doubt the most qualified of the last 60 yrs

Considerng veep is a do-nothing job, and mookie said being an ambassador(or Secretary of State) is just a favor for sucking dick, probably not.
 
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Roger Stone is now reporting that the leaker is General McMaster, briefing to George Soros. His source is Israeli intelligence.
 
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Considerng veep is a do-nothing job, and mookie said being an ambassador(or Secretary of State) is just a favor for sucking dick, probably not.

running cia trumps all that.

and mookie is pretty sure babs doesn't sport a long one ;)
 
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So what would you ascribe Hillary's time as First Lady to be worth? 2 years as a U.S. Representative? 2 years as a Rep + 1 year as an Ambassador? 4 years as a Rep + 4 years as an Ambassador?

I dont know, I am not sure you can quantify it. (nor would I want to because I didnt go to Tech...I have seen women in person ;) )

If you want me to compare...I would take her time as First Lady over Obama's in the Senate. I would take everything Al Gore did at any point over her time as First Lady. (same with GHWB)
 
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