mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Did the Bernie crowd hate women? Or just prefer the alternative?
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POTUS 45.15 - Now With More Yacht Banging Stories!
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Did the Bernie crowd hate women? Or just prefer the alternative?
WeAreNDHockey
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Jeezus, did you even read the post? Of course it would. Do you expect your kids to jump for joy and give you a great big hug every time you tell them to eat their vegetables and do their homework? As citizens Americans could do themselves a great big favor and get over themselves. Abraham Lincoln was ugly as sin and sounded like a girl when he was excited. He would inspire very few people in the United States in 2017. I guess he wouldn't move you enough to get out and vote for him either.
Jeezus, did you even read the post? Of course it would. Do you expect your kids to jump for joy and give you a great big hug every time you tell them to eat their vegetables and do their homework? As citizens Americans could do themselves a great big favor and get over themselves. Abraham Lincoln was ugly as sin and sounded like a girl when he was excited. He would inspire very few people in the United States in 2017. I guess he wouldn't move you enough to get out and vote for him either.
WeAreNDHockey
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Jeezus have you read ANY of our posts? Many of us had real issues and concerns with Clinton. We would CLEARLY be better off with her in the White House. Only a fool believes otherwise. And that even applies to you Drew.
Jeezus have you read ANY of our posts? Many of us had real issues and concerns with Clinton. We would CLEARLY be better off with her in the White House. Only a fool believes otherwise. And that even applies to you Drew.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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Hillary was not objectively untrustworthy and dishonest. That was noise machine BS.
She was, objectively, unlikable.
Hillary was not objectively untrustworthy and dishonest. That was noise machine BS.
She was, objectively, unlikable.
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And I say again, to you and everyone else, why then didn't you concerned citizens vote Dem in 2010, 2014, or downballot in 2016? See, that's the point you always run away from - why did she outvote all the Dems in swing states with the exception of Cooper running for Gov in NC? All the Senate candidates in FL, WI, PA, NC - etc? 24 House districts she won that elected Republicans? Unfortunately, your attitude is doing the Republicans bidding. You're exactly what they want to see.
Lastly, some you really need to get off of Bernie's jock strap. The guy lost because the primary voters thoroughly rejected him, and since he's now under investigation from the Feds for tax fraud (to be fair its his wife they're more looking at) Trump would have eaten him alive fairly or not.
And I say again, to you and everyone else, why then didn't you concerned citizens vote Dem in 2010, 2014, or downballot in 2016? See, that's the point you always run away from - why did she outvote all the Dems in swing states with the exception of Cooper running for Gov in NC? All the Senate candidates in FL, WI, PA, NC - etc? 24 House districts she won that elected Republicans? Unfortunately, your attitude is doing the Republicans bidding. You're exactly what they want to see.
Lastly, some you really need to get off of Bernie's jock strap. The guy lost because the primary voters thoroughly rejected him, and since he's now under investigation from the Feds for tax fraud (to be fair its his wife they're more looking at) Trump would have eaten him alive fairly or not.
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Trump was the real **** sandwich. Clinton was an edible sandwich. Not something you really want, or could possibly get excited about, but if you need to eat, it will due.
Some people were given the choice of a bologna sandwich and a steaming pile of **** between two slices of wonderbread and they thought "well they both suck, so I'm not going to participate in the decision even though I'll have to suck it up and eat whichever one everyone else chooses".
In a normal year I'd be fine with a protest vote or non-vote. We ended up Paul LePage here in Maine because the first time he ran 63% of the people couldn't decide between the other two more reasonable alternatives. I'm not angry at the 63% of people that couldn't agree on the alternative even though we're worse off because of it.
But Trump was so far out of the ordinary, that voting AGAINST Trump and for the candidate with the best chance of beating him was NECESSARY.
Brent can say it didn't matter because of where he lived, but there were lots of other people that thought just like him that live in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.
Trump was the real **** sandwich. Clinton was an edible sandwich. Not something you really want, or could possibly get excited about, but if you need to eat, it will due.
Some people were given the choice of a bologna sandwich and a steaming pile of **** between two slices of wonderbread and they thought "well they both suck, so I'm not going to participate in the decision even though I'll have to suck it up and eat whichever one everyone else chooses".
In a normal year I'd be fine with a protest vote or non-vote. We ended up Paul LePage here in Maine because the first time he ran 63% of the people couldn't decide between the other two more reasonable alternatives. I'm not angry at the 63% of people that couldn't agree on the alternative even though we're worse off because of it.
But Trump was so far out of the ordinary, that voting AGAINST Trump and for the candidate with the best chance of beating him was NECESSARY.
Brent can say it didn't matter because of where he lived, but there were lots of other people that thought just like him that live in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.
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mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. The point stands though that it wasn't like her only issue was her being uninspiring.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
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She was ordained the dem candidate in 2008.
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mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
don't even joke about eating her!!! PUHleeeze!!!
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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Because the one thing the GOP is terrified of is the Democrats continuing to run candidates who voters find unpleasant and disconnected. Yes, that is their worst nightmare.
Take some responsibility, Rover. The Bernie wing understands they have to rally behind the eventual candidate and vote. We accept our portion of blame for this. But the centrists have to accept responsibility that their 90's message -- Don't Mention The Inequality -- no longer sells. Since the Great Recession at the very latest most Americans realize that our economy no longer works for anybody but the super rich and systemic changes have to be made. To the extent that the Democratic party has been captured by the 1% we have to expunge that influence and drive it back to its natural habitat in the Republican party. We have to retake up the mantle of the wealth distributionist, socialist, honest leftist party, because having two plutocratic parties is lethal to the US.
Because the one thing the GOP is terrified of is the Democrats continuing to run candidates who voters find unpleasant and disconnected. Yes, that is their worst nightmare.
Take some responsibility, Rover. The Bernie wing understands they have to rally behind the eventual candidate and vote. We accept our portion of blame for this. But the centrists have to accept responsibility that their 90's message -- Don't Mention The Inequality -- no longer sells. Since the Great Recession at the very latest most Americans realize that our economy no longer works for anybody but the super rich and systemic changes have to be made. To the extent that the Democratic party has been captured by the 1% we have to expunge that influence and drive it back to its natural habitat in the Republican party. We have to retake up the mantle of the wealth distributionist, socialist, honest leftist party, because having two plutocratic parties is lethal to the US.
ericredaxe
Veteran
You are missing the point, I don't like that people need to be motivated to get out and vote. I don't have an explanation as to why people need to be motivated to get out and vote. That does appear to be how it is though. So, we need to pick our candidates accordingly.
trixR4kids
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Yeah ideally Americans would do a lot of things like exercise regularly so that 2/3 of the country isn't obese. At the same time to win elections you need to work within the parameters of reality, ie Americans are lazy. And when you have a ton of voting restrictions in key states they might not be willing to take of work to go to the DMV or whatever just so they can vote for someone who is the epitome of everything that's wrong with the democratic party. Especially when Trump had no chance anyhow (doh!).
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
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That cranky old ($%*$% who has never sponsored a bill of any consequence, was not a better choice than a former Secretary of State.
That cranky old ($%*$% who has never sponsored a bill of any consequence, was not a better choice than a former Secretary of State.
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But Kep, Hillary ran on all these things! She ran on moving towards single payer (states could set up themselves under ACA). She ran on free college tuition for people under a certain income level. All of these platforms she adopted. Would she have done this things as radically as Sanders? Probably not but if it gets their eventually what's the problem? I didn't start making big bucks straight out of college, but now that I'm relatively well off I don't sit around complaining that it took all through my 20's to get there.
Now mind you, I don't know who didn't show up last year. So I'm not necessarily blaming Sanders supporters as being decisive. But, every time you put forward your lunatic conspiracy theory that evil genius Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a woman who'd screw up a one car funeral, somehow cheated Bernie out of the nomination, you are doing EXACTLY what Trump, Conway, Bannon, Hannity, Breitbert (the website, not the dead guy), etc want you to do. You're playing the role perfectly. Sanders lost most likely because he had little appeal to non-white voters who make up a large portion of the Dem primary. Its not any more complicated or nefarious than that. I'm really not sure why you want to do the bidding of the very plutocrats that you disdain so much.
Because the one thing the GOP is terrified of is the Democrats continuing to run candidates who voters find unpleasant and disconnected. Yes, that is their worst nightmare.
Take some responsibility, Rover. The Bernie wing understands they have to rally behind the eventual candidate and vote. We accept our portion of blame for this. But the centrists have to accept responsibility that their 90's message -- Don't Mention The Inequality -- no longer sells. Since the Great Recession at the very latest most Americans realize that our economy no longer works for anybody but the super rich and systemic changes have to be made. To the extent that the Democratic party has been captured by the 1% we have to expunge that influence and drive it back to its natural habitat in the Republican party. We have to retake up the mantle of the wealth distributionist, socialist, honest leftist party, because having two plutocratic parties is lethal to the US.
But Kep, Hillary ran on all these things! She ran on moving towards single payer (states could set up themselves under ACA). She ran on free college tuition for people under a certain income level. All of these platforms she adopted. Would she have done this things as radically as Sanders? Probably not but if it gets their eventually what's the problem? I didn't start making big bucks straight out of college, but now that I'm relatively well off I don't sit around complaining that it took all through my 20's to get there.
Now mind you, I don't know who didn't show up last year. So I'm not necessarily blaming Sanders supporters as being decisive. But, every time you put forward your lunatic conspiracy theory that evil genius Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a woman who'd screw up a one car funeral, somehow cheated Bernie out of the nomination, you are doing EXACTLY what Trump, Conway, Bannon, Hannity, Breitbert (the website, not the dead guy), etc want you to do. You're playing the role perfectly. Sanders lost most likely because he had little appeal to non-white voters who make up a large portion of the Dem primary. Its not any more complicated or nefarious than that. I'm really not sure why you want to do the bidding of the very plutocrats that you disdain so much.
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I have to agree, even though I supported Bernie during the primary because I wanted to move my party and the country further left I think Clinton was more qualified to be president. I believe in single payer universal healthcare, universal higher education (not sure exactly how this would look exactly, but at a minimum trade schools and community college should be tuition free), higher marginal tax rates on the wealthy, reduced military spending
I have to agree, even though I supported Bernie during the primary because I wanted to move my party and the country further left I think Clinton was more qualified to be president. I believe in single payer universal healthcare, universal higher education (not sure exactly how this would look exactly, but at a minimum trade schools and community college should be tuition free), higher marginal tax rates on the wealthy, reduced military spending
trixR4kids
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Right but if she further deregulates banks and what not and we have another financial crisis where the rich basically just pilfer the economy again while normal people lose and can't get a decent paying job, the other stuff kinda loses its luster.
Right but if she further deregulates banks and what not and we have another financial crisis where the rich basically just pilfer the economy again while normal people lose and can't get a decent paying job, the other stuff kinda loses its luster.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
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This.
And I have a problem with people who dont vote who then complain about how bad the system is. If you want to exercise your null vote go right ahead but in my mind your opinion then loses all weight. You made your choice now live with it.
This.
And I have a problem with people who dont vote who then complain about how bad the system is. If you want to exercise your null vote go right ahead but in my mind your opinion then loses all weight. You made your choice now live with it.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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lol, Trump called New Hampshire a drug infested den during a phone call with Mexico's President Peña Nieto
<quote>"Up in New Hampshire – I won New Hampshire because New Hampshire is a drug-infested den – is coming from the southern border."</quote>
https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...ia-mexico-transcripts/?utm_term=.32955065ec20
lol, Trump called New Hampshire a drug infested den during a phone call with Mexico's President Peña Nieto
<quote>"Up in New Hampshire – I won New Hampshire because New Hampshire is a drug-infested den – is coming from the southern border."</quote>
https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...ia-mexico-transcripts/?utm_term=.32955065ec20
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