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POTUS 45.15 - Now With More Yacht Banging Stories!

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burd said:
Stock market gains benefit the wealthy, not the poor, but they do affect the average Joe as well. It's also true that business will respond favorably to some steps that are harmful to us all in the long run, such as removing important environmental regulations. But does Trump deserve some credit for the market we are in?
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Considering all the predictions that it'd crash under Trump, absolutely. There is more confidence in Americans today than there has been in the last 15 years, despite the trolls on here trying to convince otherwise.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Considering all the predictions that it'd crash under Trump, absolutely. There is more confidence in Americans today than there has been in the last 15 years, despite the trolls on here trying to convince otherwise.
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Well, I was looking for a little more analysis, flaggy, though I know you can give no more than what infowars gives you. No question confidence in our economy was at a historic low when GW left office, and the recovery from that has been outstanding. And nobody can be surprised that business responds well to such things as approving the Dakota Pipeline and walking away from the Paris Accords. But I'm just wondering what more informed people think about T's effect on business and the market. I mean, if he has done some good along with all the shyt, then give him credit.
 
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Well, I see he is branching out to RedState. That's not going to make Alex happy.
 
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burd said:
Well, I was looking for a little more analysis, flaggy, though I know you can give no more than what infowars gives you. No question confidence in our economy was at a historic low when GW left office, and the recovery from that has been outstanding. And nobody can be surprised that business responds well to such things as approving the Dakota Pipeline and walking away from the Paris Accords. But I'm just wondering what more informed people think about T's effect on business and the market. I mean, if he has done some good along with all the shyt, then give him credit.
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82 consecutive months of growth. We all know who was in office for the last seven years. But, yes, Trump deserves credit since January. Even with the market staying stagnant he would deserve some credit, but give it time. The tweets will stop and we'll get more Hillary email concerns when it nosedives.
 
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jericho said:
82 consecutive months of growth. We all know who was in office for the last seven years. But, yes, Trump deserves credit since January. Even with the market staying stagnant he would deserve some credit, but give it time. The tweets will stop and we'll get more Hillary email concerns when it nosedives.
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If dump gets any credit- it should be credit for doing nothing. Doing nothing means that all of President Obama's plans are still in place and working, for the most part. Even the 1/5 of our economy of healthcare is still the ACA, and it appears to be that way for a long time. If dump tanks it, well...

When some of his doing starts raising prices of stuff, that will be interesting.

But, as of yet, these guys have really done nothing - the Newsweek cover is very accurate.
 
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alfablue said:
If dump gets any credit- it should be credit for doing nothing. Doing nothing means that all of President Obama's plans are still in place and working, for the most part. Even the 1/5 of our economy of healthcare is still the ACA, and it appears to be that way for a long time. If dump tanks it, well...

When some of his doing starts raising prices of stuff, that will be interesting.

But, as of yet, these guys have really done nothing - the Newsweek cover is very accurate.
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Uncertainty is not good for the business world, and T's administration has been a model of inconsistency and uncertainty. But do you think the manufacturers and other large business interests are showing more confidence because of his business first attitude. I mean, this guy cares nothing about protecting the environment or the middle class.
 
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aparch said:
Fox News Editorial: "Who Gives A Sh** If Trump Committed Treason? Not Us. Not You Either."

Tl;Dr of the link is: When we find out Trump lied and all this is true, does anyone really give two sh**s about it?
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It's interesting how many times people are making it equivalent that lying about an affair is the same as working with another country to influence an election.

If lying about an affair is that bad, shouldn't little newt be in prison?

And we have another article that does try to downplay the higher problem if russian influence. Again, to the dump supporters out there, is it REALLY ok that the russians tried to influence our election? Regardless of how dumps morons were involved or not.

If it was anyone in the EU, you'd be screaming bloody murder, and worrying about the New World Order. But for russia- crickets. What's up with that?
 
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burd said:
Uncertainty is not good for the business world, and T's administration has been a model of inconsistency and uncertainty. But do you think the manufacturers and other large business interests are showing more confidence because of his business first attitude. I mean, this guy cares nothing about protecting the environment or the middle class.
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I get the uncertainty part, but there is one very clear certainty that this administration has been- nothing. Words and no action.

It's going to take some actual effort to really undo the environmental rules he squawks about. Just like it will take real work to undo the travel rules to Cuba.

As for the budget- it took exactly one continuing resolution to see that the people who control the purse strings are not nearly doing what he wants.

dump is like that nasty little dog that barks and barks and barks. Occasionally, they will get a tiny bite in- but as of yet, his lack of work means nothing significant has happened (other than making our country look like a bunch of fools)

The company I work for should be heavily effected by dump's policies- and we are not making a single change. As much as I can tell, there's no real alarm that anything may change.
 
aparch said:
Fox News Editorial: "Who Gives A Sh** If Trump Committed Treason? Not Us. Not You Either."

Tl;Dr of the link is: When we find out Trump lied and all this is true, does anyone really give two sh**s about it?
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Well, according to Drew, because none of us starred in or produced the film Liar Liar, we shouldn't be making judgements about lying.

When we find out, there will be the same reactions there have been about everything else. Lefties will go crazy, righties will go "lalalalala Hillary Benghazi emails", and certain vocal independents will talk about how it's not really that bad.
 
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Spartanforlife4 said:
Well, according to Drew, because none of us starred in or produced the film Liar Liar, we shouldn't be making judgements about lying.

When we find out, there will be the same reactions there have been about everything else. Lefties will go crazy, righties will go "lalalalala Hillary Benghazi emails", and certain vocal independents will talk about how it's not really that bad.
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I think people would care more if there was some real evidence of collusion. Maybe more will come out in time but so far it has been pretty underwhelming.
 
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Does your back hurt when you keep dragging goal posts around like that?
 
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Drew S. said:
I think people would care more if there was some real evidence of collusion. Maybe more will come out in time but so far it has been pretty underwhelming.
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Russia - The Russian Government would like to give you damaging information on your opponent as part of its support for your campaign.

Trump Jr - I love it.
 
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jerphisch said:
Russia - The Russian Government would like to give you damaging information on your opponent as part of its support for your campaign..
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true true true true as conjecture conjecture conjecture
 
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mookie1995 said:
true true true true as conjecture conjecture conjecture
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conjecture:
noun
1.the formation or expression of an opinion or theory without sufficient evidence for proof.

We have seen the actual email.
 
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mookie1995 said:
really?
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Yes. Unless your position is that Jr. released a fake email in order to make himself look guilty when the real email showed him to be innocent? I mean I know he's stupid, but that seems a bit much.
 
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jerphisch said:
Yes. Unless your position is that Jr. released a fake email in order to make himself look guilty when the real email showed him to be innocent? I mean I know he's stupid, but that seems a bit much.
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that would have been covered in mookie's "true" section.

mookie thought the arab times missed a story about an email popping up from sputnik stating they supported this or that.
 
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alfablue said:
It's interesting how many times people are making it equivalent that lying about an affair is the same as working with another country to influence an election.

If lying about an affair is that bad, shouldn't little newt be in prison?

And we have another article that does try to downplay the higher problem if russian influence. Again, to the dump supporters out there, is it REALLY ok that the russians tried to influence our election? Regardless of how dumps morons were involved or not.

If it was anyone in the EU, you'd be screaming bloody murder, and worrying about the New World Order. But for russia- crickets. What's up with that?
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What planet are you on? No one cares about anything beyond our borders. America First!!!11!1! So no matter what it doesn't matter.

Drew S. said:
I think people would care more if there was some real evidence of collusion. Maybe more will come out in time but so far it has been pretty underwhelming.
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Sometimes you post things that make me think and stimulate dialogue and then you post something like this. Makes me think of a kid who is scared of Mickey Mouse at Disney. Parents say there is a man in there, it isn't really Micky. Kid has a moment of insight, understands that it isn't scary if there is a man inside. In minutes the only thing they retain is it isn't scary. They forget the man is in there.

Exactly what do you think you should see to make you not concerned. The vast majority of sentient people can see there is something to be concerned about. The entire intelligence community has said this is a real thing and we should be very concerned. They actually agree with each other (something that should make this classified as a miracle). During the recent hearings even the GOP stalwarts on the committee admitted there was reason to be concern. The entire Legislature minus 3 passed sanctions and went against Trump. They passed a resolution that will prevent him from replacing the AG while they are out on break to make sure Mueller can continue without being fired. They have convened 2 Grand Juries- not exactly easy to do without some sort of evidence. There is also evidence this has happened in Europe. I know anything outside the border usually doesn't count but this goes to establishing a pattern.

Seems like those who support the GOP and/Trump can't deal with the concerns because that might be seen as believing the real enemy- the Dems. Even tho the GOP controls both House and Senate and has voted to protect the special Prosecutor and has convened a number of committees to investigate. At some point the smoke coming out the windows and the doors becomes so intense you have to entertain the possibility there is fire inside. Whether you totally believe it or think there is only a very powerful smoke machine (unlikely) you should at least prepare for response to fire when that fire is more likely than not. That they messed with the elections isn't in doubt. That we should be figuring out how to prevent incursion again isn't in doubt. Like any disease the more you know about it the better you can treat it but you don't sit back and watch the disease go nuts while you wait for the culture results. You throw the most likely antibiotic at it. Or maybe 2 and an antifungal /antiviral if it is really bad. You certainly don't throw away the culture before it has been incubating for a week.
 
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