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Re: POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!
Here's the REAL collusion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vojICQiZF3I
Here's the REAL collusion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vojICQiZF3I
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POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!
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Re: POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!
president Ryan is scary- but in context, the best he can do is pardon dump.
But going back to Watergate, remember that Agnew resigned. That's the reference of history that seems possible on top of the possibility that he, too, was in on it.
One other thing- for Ryan to be president, the mid terms have to go his way. Which means there's also a possibility of President Pilosi. (I don't see this getting done in 18 months, in spite of the massive number of things happened in 6 months.)
president Ryan is scary- but in context, the best he can do is pardon dump.
But going back to Watergate, remember that Agnew resigned. That's the reference of history that seems possible on top of the possibility that he, too, was in on it.
One other thing- for Ryan to be president, the mid terms have to go his way. Which means there's also a possibility of President Pilosi. (I don't see this getting done in 18 months, in spite of the massive number of things happened in 6 months.)
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Re: POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!
Hey Democrats, here's a wise one of your own that has some good ideas for you. May want to get behind this dude. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7DypMIugJs
Hey Democrats, here's a wise one of your own that has some good ideas for you. May want to get behind this dude. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7DypMIugJs
WeAreNDHockey
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Re: POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!
My guess is republicans might run on the prospect of a president Pelosi. She's sort of Hillary-lite. The right has been vilifying her for quite some time now (much of it I am sure because she is a woman who amassed some power) and we've already seen in the defeat of all of the democrats in the special house elections a lot of anti-Pelosi sentiment and advertising. The tactic will work almost anywhere the republican candidate has any chance of winning since she is so effectively portrayed as being as lefty as Sanders. She's obviously unpopular in red districts but even in purple and blue ones, tying a candidate to her will be an effective tactic.
My guess is republicans might run on the prospect of a president Pelosi. She's sort of Hillary-lite. The right has been vilifying her for quite some time now (much of it I am sure because she is a woman who amassed some power) and we've already seen in the defeat of all of the democrats in the special house elections a lot of anti-Pelosi sentiment and advertising. The tactic will work almost anywhere the republican candidate has any chance of winning since she is so effectively portrayed as being as lefty as Sanders. She's obviously unpopular in red districts but even in purple and blue ones, tying a candidate to her will be an effective tactic.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!
There isn't a chance in hell they campaign on a president Pelosi platform. That would imply they are campaigning to impeach Trump. No way, not going to happen.
They might do the, "We can't afford to have a free spending woman as the speaker" derp, but not president.
There isn't a chance in hell they campaign on a president Pelosi platform. That would imply they are campaigning to impeach Trump. No way, not going to happen.
They might do the, "We can't afford to have a free spending woman as the speaker" derp, but not president.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!
Though not for Watergate. Agnew was on his way to being convicted after a fun career of bribery and fraud.
Though not for Watergate. Agnew was on his way to being convicted after a fun career of bribery and fraud.
Who will you be running in 2020? Landslide Joe may be 4 years too late.
WeAreNDHockey
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Re: POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!
An article I read said many in the audience laughed and applauded his lines. The cops in Ohio LOVE him, and not just the revenue men, er State Troopers and rural cops in opioid overdose country. Even in Cleveland, where more than 40% of the sworn officers are not white, he has overwhelming support.
An article I read said many in the audience laughed and applauded his lines. The cops in Ohio LOVE him, and not just the revenue men, er State Troopers and rural cops in opioid overdose country. Even in Cleveland, where more than 40% of the sworn officers are not white, he has overwhelming support.
Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Re: POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!
Other than simultaneous death there is no conceivable way a #3 or #4 can ever become President. Even if congress figures out some way for simultaneous impeachment of Trump and Pence( I don't think there is such a thing at all) A Vice President in that situation resigns, Trump appoints a new VP, and when he himself is impeached, VP Gen. John Kelly becomes president.
Other than simultaneous death there is no conceivable way a #3 or #4 can ever become President. Even if congress figures out some way for simultaneous impeachment of Trump and Pence( I don't think there is such a thing at all) A Vice President in that situation resigns, Trump appoints a new VP, and when he himself is impeached, VP Gen. John Kelly becomes president.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
An appointed VP still has to be confirmed by the Senate, so it's not improbable to get to #3 or #4.
Re: POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!
What do you contend the US should do? Good on Modi for standing up for India. No one wants conflict, but I think it is a long term mistake for countries to let China have their way.
What do you contend the US should do? Good on Modi for standing up for India. No one wants conflict, but I think it is a long term mistake for countries to let China have their way.
bronconick
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Re: POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!
Usually we send our Secretary of State and other diplomats to help defuse the situation. The President would likely get involved, already. We don't that anymore because you and 60 million Americans had to Stigginit to the Libs. You voted to let China "have their way" by electing Trump.
Usually we send our Secretary of State and other diplomats to help defuse the situation. The President would likely get involved, already. We don't that anymore because you and 60 million Americans had to Stigginit to the Libs. You voted to let China "have their way" by electing Trump.
Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Re: POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!
True, (actually by both the House and Senate) but I cannot envision a situation where Congress can refuse to take up the nomination of a VP before removing the President. It would trigger a constitutional crisis in which Congress effectively chooses the Speaker of the House as President over a constitutionally directed appointee, which should be beyond the scope of their power. That starts getting uncomfortably close to a coup.
It is also true that congressional leaders more or less forced Ford upon Nixon by telling him beforehand that's the only person they would approve, and certainly they would do the same now, so that really precludes even Trump appointing Ivanka.
True, (actually by both the House and Senate) but I cannot envision a situation where Congress can refuse to take up the nomination of a VP before removing the President. It would trigger a constitutional crisis in which Congress effectively chooses the Speaker of the House as President over a constitutionally directed appointee, which should be beyond the scope of their power. That starts getting uncomfortably close to a coup.
It is also true that congressional leaders more or less forced Ford upon Nixon by telling him beforehand that's the only person they would approve, and certainly they would do the same now, so that really precludes even Trump appointing Ivanka.
Read "The Man".
VP dies in office. President hasn't sent the nomination forward for the new VP. While on an overseas trip, the President and Speaker are killed in a building collapse.
Doug Dillman, President Pro Tem of the Senate becomes President.
He's black.
Spartanforlife4
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Yup. Most cops and servicemen I know all love him, too. Now, a lot of them hated any name with a D next to it before he came along, so it would've happened with any R that got elected, but they certainly don't hate a guy who loves to literally yell "LAW AND ORDER" at the podium.
D
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Donnie is probably thinking he can strong arm them, refuse some payment, and they'll file bankruptcy and he can buy cheaply.
WeAreNDHockey
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Re: POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!
You and others who have no issues with trump, despite your protestations otherwise, seem to parrot this sentiment quite a lot lately. You may have even posted it a time or two recently (if not you my apologies).
What a time we live in when an international crisis of any type arises and one would think America should just throw up her arms and say "what do ya want me to do?" The trump White House has so little standing in the world right now, less than at any time since the age of "super-powers" dawned almost a hundred years ago that in effect there probably isn't much trump or the U.S. can do. But that is simply and only because of the occupant of the White House.
What a sad, sad state of affairs when people like you cling to the narratives about trump that you do instead of admitting how dangerous it is right now to have him steering the ship. All because you can't -- or simply don't want to -- admit you are wrong about things. Instead you throw out some false equivalency about Clinton or Obama, or pretend that the current difficulties in world affairs might simply have no American solutions in the hopes we won't see WHY there probably are no American solutions.
I don't know what kind of a president Hillary Clinton would have been. I had no high hopes that she'd be any better than Obama or any of the mostly average presidents we've had in my lifetime. But I do know that she is a grown-up, and would have surrounded herself with other grown-ups, so the odds of some distant border crisis between a couple of countries with the capability of inflicting incredible destruction and harm upon one another would be greatly reduced since the world used to listen to us in times of high tension. Jesus there could be a mushroom cloud over New Delhi or Beijing and if trump was tweeting about something else his minions wouldn't believe it was happening.
You and others who have no issues with trump, despite your protestations otherwise, seem to parrot this sentiment quite a lot lately. You may have even posted it a time or two recently (if not you my apologies).
What a time we live in when an international crisis of any type arises and one would think America should just throw up her arms and say "what do ya want me to do?" The trump White House has so little standing in the world right now, less than at any time since the age of "super-powers" dawned almost a hundred years ago that in effect there probably isn't much trump or the U.S. can do. But that is simply and only because of the occupant of the White House.
What a sad, sad state of affairs when people like you cling to the narratives about trump that you do instead of admitting how dangerous it is right now to have him steering the ship. All because you can't -- or simply don't want to -- admit you are wrong about things. Instead you throw out some false equivalency about Clinton or Obama, or pretend that the current difficulties in world affairs might simply have no American solutions in the hopes we won't see WHY there probably are no American solutions.
I don't know what kind of a president Hillary Clinton would have been. I had no high hopes that she'd be any better than Obama or any of the mostly average presidents we've had in my lifetime. But I do know that she is a grown-up, and would have surrounded herself with other grown-ups, so the odds of some distant border crisis between a couple of countries with the capability of inflicting incredible destruction and harm upon one another would be greatly reduced since the world used to listen to us in times of high tension. Jesus there could be a mushroom cloud over New Delhi or Beijing and if trump was tweeting about something else his minions wouldn't believe it was happening.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!
Sam Bee talked some serious sense last week. Impeachment is likely a moot point as long as Republicans control Congress. Democrats need to refocus on local politics. Also, even the average Dem voter is pretty effing clueless (though I suspect the anti-capitalist megaphone guy was scripted).
Sam Bee talked some serious sense last week. Impeachment is likely a moot point as long as Republicans control Congress. Democrats need to refocus on local politics. Also, even the average Dem voter is pretty effing clueless (though I suspect the anti-capitalist megaphone guy was scripted).
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