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POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!
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French Rage
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Re: POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!
Aww, but "Who would do the most obscene thing to the Iran treaty" was my favorite competition during the GOP debates last year.
Aww, but "Who would do the most obscene thing to the Iran treaty" was my favorite competition during the GOP debates last year.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
It's not like she deserves much better. Her removal to the dustbin of American politics is the only good thing to come from this.
Maybe next time the Dems can find a candidate that will, you know, actually campaign for office instead of bellyaching over not being handed the job on a silver platter. The rest of the Ds maybe felt like she was "owed" the office (hence her only challenger not being a democrat at all), but she should've realized that even the colloidal joke of trump wasn't going to just give it to her.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
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If I can I be frank - why do some folks hate Hillary so much? OK, her personality is a bit of a put-on. But really, EODS? "Her removal to the dustbin of American politics is the only good thing to come from this"? She's that horrible? That sounds like the Freepers who clamor about "Arkancide" and all that nonsense.
If I can I be frank - why do some folks hate Hillary so much? OK, her personality is a bit of a put-on. But really, EODS? "Her removal to the dustbin of American politics is the only good thing to come from this"? She's that horrible? That sounds like the Freepers who clamor about "Arkancide" and all that nonsense.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
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I sympathize for her in that the "emails"/Benghazi/pizzagate/kill-list bull**** coming from the Trump camp is complete absurdity. I don't think she'd have been a bad president, she'd certainly have been a serviceable one. She's far too malleable to be anything else. As long as progressives don't lose their minds like the GOP has, she's okay.
In my mind, everything wrong with her can be summed up by looking at all the ways she avoided the public eye after the conventions. What was the point of that? Did she think she had it in the bag and thus wasn't going to put the work in? Was she just expecting to be gifted the Oval Office? Is that why didn't she even bother to campaign in my swing state, which she lost?
Was I supposed to vote for her simply to break the glass ceiling (as this was her most consistent message) or because she had the right family name? For that much cynicism, the democrats might as well run a ****ing celebrity in 2020 (with two token patsies to liven up the debates before dropping out, practically anonymously of course).
Screw that. I voted for her because her tax plan was less toxic than Trumps, and that her competence outstretched Trumps mania by a mile. Certainly not out of some bull**** obligation. If the GOP hadn't lost its ****ed mind and given me an absurd opposition to vote against, it'd have been a lot harder to vote for her instead of third party or some unicorn-like "reasonable republican" (which never even appeared in the primaries).
I sympathize for her in that the "emails"/Benghazi/pizzagate/kill-list bull**** coming from the Trump camp is complete absurdity. I don't think she'd have been a bad president, she'd certainly have been a serviceable one. She's far too malleable to be anything else. As long as progressives don't lose their minds like the GOP has, she's okay.
In my mind, everything wrong with her can be summed up by looking at all the ways she avoided the public eye after the conventions. What was the point of that? Did she think she had it in the bag and thus wasn't going to put the work in? Was she just expecting to be gifted the Oval Office? Is that why didn't she even bother to campaign in my swing state, which she lost?
Was I supposed to vote for her simply to break the glass ceiling (as this was her most consistent message) or because she had the right family name? For that much cynicism, the democrats might as well run a ****ing celebrity in 2020 (with two token patsies to liven up the debates before dropping out, practically anonymously of course).
Screw that. I voted for her because her tax plan was less toxic than Trumps, and that her competence outstretched Trumps mania by a mile. Certainly not out of some bull**** obligation. If the GOP hadn't lost its ****ed mind and given me an absurd opposition to vote against, it'd have been a lot harder to vote for her instead of third party or some unicorn-like "reasonable republican" (which never even appeared in the primaries).
I'm in the group that strongly despises her. I think she might be one of the biggest phonies ever to run for president. She has done nothing but whine and blame other people after the election too. If they ran again today Trump would win by an even bigger margin.
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if they ran again today, only an idiot would vote for Trump over Hillary. Seriously Drew, you should see if ObamaCare covers a brain transplant. Look at how incompetent Trump has been. Clinton would be way more competent -- she wouldn't be able to accomplish anything because she'd be under constant investigation over trumped up BS reasons -- but she wouldn't embarrass us on a global stage and take a big dump on the EPA.
if they ran again today, only an idiot would vote for Trump over Hillary. Seriously Drew, you should see if ObamaCare covers a brain transplant. Look at how incompetent Trump has been. Clinton would be way more competent -- she wouldn't be able to accomplish anything because she'd be under constant investigation over trumped up BS reasons -- but she wouldn't embarrass us on a global stage and take a big dump on the EPA.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!
the truth doesn't live too far from this sentence
the truth doesn't live too far from this sentence
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!
women have brought up that for all the talk of breaking a glass ceiling; if she wasn't married to bubba, hilly would have perhaps topped out as city councilwoman somewhere.
(personally mookie is impressed with her. takes balls to kill people. hilly has balls!
)
women have brought up that for all the talk of breaking a glass ceiling; if she wasn't married to bubba, hilly would have perhaps topped out as city councilwoman somewhere.
(personally mookie is impressed with her. takes balls to kill people. hilly has balls!
)
ScoobyDoo
NPC
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Why do people hate Hillary? Simple. She's a woman who gathered a lot of power. People don't like that. I see people think she used Bill to get there? Of course she did. What else was she going to do in this country to make it? Name any woman in this country who didn't have to use a man to get what they want. That's the way this country has been set up for centuries.
The Misogyny is strong here.
Why do people hate Hillary? Simple. She's a woman who gathered a lot of power. People don't like that. I see people think she used Bill to get there? Of course she did. What else was she going to do in this country to make it? Name any woman in this country who didn't have to use a man to get what they want. That's the way this country has been set up for centuries.
The Misogyny is strong here.
As far as I know Susan Collins didn't.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...m_term=.7949cd5738ba&wpisrc=nl_az_most&wpmk=1
here is how the gop loves women!!! gives them important roles in gov'ment!
(so awesome...)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...m_term=.7949cd5738ba&wpisrc=nl_az_most&wpmk=1
here is how the gop loves women!!! gives them important roles in gov'ment!
(so awesome...)
unofan
Well-known member
"Roughly half the population has below average intelligence, and average ain't great." - unofan
See, also, "You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons." - Blazing Saddles
Put another way, there are a ton of idiots in this world, and their vote counts the same as everyone else's.
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mookie must have forgotten or ignored HRC's record before she married BC. She was a force. I recall stories when Bill was campaigning for Pres the first time that many in their past thought she would be the the one to accomplish great things, not Bill.
women have brought up that for all the talk of breaking a glass ceiling; if she wasn't married to bubba, hilly would have perhaps topped out as city councilwoman somewhere.
(personally mookie is impressed with her. takes balls to kill people. hilly has balls!
mookie must have forgotten or ignored HRC's record before she married BC. She was a force. I recall stories when Bill was campaigning for Pres the first time that many in their past thought she would be the the one to accomplish great things, not Bill.
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Deutsche Gopher Fan
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And yet I bet many people have no clue who she is. She's not someone that comes to mind for most when they think of "powerful"
ScoobyDoo
NPC
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Her opinion didn't matter when it mattered most. Her vote did, but her vote was no more or less than any other Senator. She has a background in Health Care policy and may be the most qualified person on the hill in that area yet 13 Men were chosen to write the lastest Health Care bill.
Yeah, she made it.
Hillary accomplished something besides being 1 of 100 votes.
Her opinion didn't matter when it mattered most. Her vote did, but her vote was no more or less than any other Senator. She has a background in Health Care policy and may be the most qualified person on the hill in that area yet 13 Men were chosen to write the lastest Health Care bill.
Yeah, she made it.
Hillary accomplished something besides being 1 of 100 votes.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
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she brought down trumpcare
pretty powerful
she brought down trumpcare
pretty powerful
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!
not kept on by the watergate legal cmte CHECK
failed dc bar exam CHECK
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrate!
not kept on by the watergate legal cmte CHECK
failed dc bar exam CHECK
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrate!
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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For some, certainly. But most of the people who hate Hillary also hate John Kerry and for that matter Barack Obama. They have been conditioned to hate the "D."
As for we Democrats who don't like her, it isn't misogyny or sexism. I don't like royal families and I don't like weak candidates. That was my problem with Hillary. Plumbing played no part.
For some, certainly. But most of the people who hate Hillary also hate John Kerry and for that matter Barack Obama. They have been conditioned to hate the "D."
As for we Democrats who don't like her, it isn't misogyny or sexism. I don't like royal families and I don't like weak candidates. That was my problem with Hillary. Plumbing played no part.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
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I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the plurality of Americans.
I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the plurality of Americans.
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