POTUS 45.10 - Stage Two in Perpetuity

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: POTUS 45.10 - Stage Two in Perpetuity

Exactly. For some libs, the only path forward they can see is to "become the very enemy you hate". It's like the shy nerd in high school who doesn't get girls and hates the jocks who do, then in college he discovers the "redpill"/Return of Kings/MRA baloney. So he bulks up, memorizes magic tricks, goes clubbing - basically does a full 180 into the faux-alpha a55hole universe. Only to discover after a few years, that his shtick can only pull the easy/dumb/gold-digging women that he doesn't want anything long-term from, so he bitterly declares that all women are whores.

Liberals don't want to be the "redpill" guy.

No, the left just wants to blame the right for everything the left does. Podesta's the one grabbing by the *****. Hill-dawg's the one in bed with the Russians. The EPA is stunting the growth of domestic industry.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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So the CBO has scored the new health plan, and 23 million people lose their coverage, while millions get less or no care at higher costs, all to save $12 billion a year for ten years.

Brent's desired increase in military spending costs half of that ten year total for just one year. But..................conservative.

How are they going to lose "coverage" if they already have it? Or are you talking about the people that could potentially get sick but didn't buy in...

 

[Kepler]

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So the CBO has scored the new health plan, and 23 million people lose their coverage

Remember the conservative solution to the Ethiopian famine: "stop sending food"?

This is evidently the conservative solution to the problem of the uninsured.

 

[SJHovey]

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So the CBO has scored the new health plan, and 23 million people lose their coverage, while millions get less or no care at higher costs, all to save $12 billion a year for ten years.

Isn't this development good for opponents of the bill, though? I thought they needed to show a substantial savings in order to get it through the Senate without worrying about a filibuster?

 

[unofan]

Not necessarily, IMO. It's how you look at it. Money is going to be spent, and the right wants to spend it on military. The left doesn't (at least at the levels that the right-wingers want).

fiscal conservative = spend less money.
Social conservative = moar military please

 

[French Rage]

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Relax everyone, Trump just united the entire Muslim world, apparently.

 

[The Rube]

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fiscal conservative = spend less money.
Social conservative = moar military please

Again, you (and others) do not understand (despite my explanation of point of view):

When it comes to fiscal stuff, I lean right (conservative, aka Republican).
Socially, I lean left (aka Democrat).

Get it?

 

[Spartanforlife4]

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Again, you (and others) do not understand (despite my explanation of point of view):

When it comes to fiscal stuff, I lean right (conservative, aka Republican).
Socially, I lean left (aka Democrat).

Get it?

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[Kepler]

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Isn't this development good for opponents of the bill, though? I thought they needed to show a substantial savings in order to get it through the Senate without worrying about a filibuster?

Will the Republicans have any spine?

 

[bronconick]

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Will the Republicans have any spine?

According to the CBO, 15 million will lose insurance by the end of 2018.

Do it, you clowns.

 

[Slap Shot]

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Her having zero choice is not my problem. Mrs. Obama had a choice in the matter. So did both Mrs. Bush and Hillary Clinton. Just because she married an ape who gives her NO SAY in her life choices is irrelevant. That was her decision.

You don't care that she didn't choose to be FLOTUS? Who gives a flying eff that you don't care? You're 100% acting like a spoiled child on this issue and that type of attitude if multiplied spells disaster for the Dems even with Trump being a complete imbecile.

That is so intellectually and morally weak. To equate Obama and Trump as just more or less two sides of the same coin is ridiculous. A person could certainly disagree with Obama's policies and approach to governing but you can't argue that he was trying to abolish our system of government and the constitution itself.

Trump isn't a Republican, he's an Autocrat, capital letter if that helps it feel more like an organized thing to you, because it is. Trump isn't trying to work within the longstanding and agreed upon framework of governance - even at the far right end of it - he's trying to do away with framework altogether. He is an attack on self-determination, liberty, the rule of law, representative democracy itself.

I may have disliked the way Reagan and the Bushes used the government but I never felt like they were trying to dismantle it outright. Trump is. If you're waiting for a formal announcement on that, you're an idiot- would you stand in the road and wait for an announcement that the car 50 ft away from you going 40 mph hour is going to hit you before you actually did something? No, the situation is fairly obvious and self-explanatory. People committing reprehensible and criminal acts don't often announce "hey, we're committing criminal and reprehensible acts over here, just so you know..."

Brilliant and of course ignored.

 

[rufus]

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Trumpy just can't keep his mouth shut. In April, he bragged to the Phillipine president that we have two nuclear subs stationed off North Korea.

BuzzFeed reported on Wednesday, citing three unnamed Pentagon officials, that defense officials were shocked by reports Trump had disclosed the location of the submarines because: “We never talk about subs!”

I thought Trumpy wasn't gonna tell our enemies of our military plans ahead of time?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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You don't care that she didn't choose to be FLOTUS? Who gives a flying eff that you don't care? You're 100% acting like a spoiled child on this issue and that type of attitude if multiplied spells disaster for the Dems even with Trump being a complete imbecile.

She will be judged and the judgement is she sucks. That's my point and to this point it is undisputed.

Are you quoting St. Clown? Cause now you're implying it's my fault that Hillary didn't get elected. Sorry, not my fault. My conscience is clear. And, I don't run around thinking current military spending is economically conservative either.

 

[SJHovey]

You don't care that she didn't choose to be FLOTUS? Who gives a flying eff that you don't care? You're 100% acting like a spoiled child on this issue and that type of attitude if multiplied spells disaster for the Dems even with Trump being a complete imbecile.



Brilliant and of course ignored.

Ignored because it entirely missed the point of my post.

 

[jerphisch]

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I thought Trumpy wasn't gonna tell our enemies of our military plans ahead of time?

You just don't understand who are enemies are. Dictators who kill people in the streets are role models now.

 

[Almington]

Again, you (and others) do not understand (despite my explanation of point of view):

When it comes to fiscal stuff, I lean right (conservative, aka Republican).
Socially, I lean left (aka Democrat).

Get it?

You understand that Republican economic policies have virtually nothing to do with fiscal conservatism these days because they are unable to cut spending when they also cut taxes. Nothing is less fiscally conservative than deficit spending. Fiscal conservatism has nothing to do with how money is spent, but rather that less money is spent.

To ensure that social programs are followed requires administration and enforcement, those requires government spending, thus social programs are inherently not fiscally conservative.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

You just don't understand who are enemies are. Dictators who kill people in the streets are role models now.

It makes sense. Cut funding to help opioid addiction and just murder them instead!
Wait, that might slow down the stream of people into private prisons though.

 

[bronconick]

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So the Republican running for Montana's open seat body slammed a reporter, then said it was fine because he was a liberal.

 

[state of hockey]

So the Republican running for Montana's open seat body slammed a reporter, then said it was fine because he was a liberal.

He'll win because of it.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

He'll win because of it.

Exactly. That's all they need to get out the derp vote. The only amendment that matters is the second!