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POTUS 45.1 - You take the high road and I'll take the low road

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Bill Maher compared the first 7 days of Trump to the last 30 minutes of Goodfellas "Ray Liotta is coked out of his mind doing 10 things at once. Dropping off a trunk full of handguns and making spaghetti sauce, helicopters are chasing him...", and his executive orders to, "signed tweets". "I want a wall. Done! I want a pony. Done!".
 
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Remember when Flag told us earlier this week that we shouldn't be complaining, because Trump hadn't done anything that impacted people yet? It turns out that was:

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EDIT: I'd also love to know what Flag thinks of the "entry-exit" biometrics tracking that Trump's EO directed the DHS to accelerate the development of. He's been strangely silent on it. I wonder why.
 
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And the GOP wonders why it gets labeled as racist...
 
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this is ****ed up

i feel bad for any resident alien professors or doctors from affected countries that had the misfortune of attending a conference overseas this past week... they might not see their wife and kid for 90 days (or longer)
 
NAFTA is separate from immigration; your boss is fine. Frankly, your Indian colleague is also fine (for the moment, anyway).

If I were from a Muslim-majority country, though, even one not on the current list, I'd be nervous as shiat.

Yeah my Turkish friend is currently overseas on a two week trip.
 
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Yeah my Turkish friend is currently overseas on a two week trip.

Turkey is good for now. Trump has business interests in Turkey I think.

He probably wants to get his *** back here though, before the list of affected countries grows.
 
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You couldn't dream up a better way to alienate and possibly radicalize smart people who were immersed in the process of becoming "Americanized", if you tried.

BINGO! Trump just made us less safe...
 
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Remember when Flag told us earlier this week that we shouldn't be complaining, because Trump hadn't done anything that impacted people yet? It turns out that was:

<img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1c4uye.jpg" height=200 width=200></img>

EDIT: I'd also love to know what Flag thinks of the "entry-exit" biometrics tracking that Trump's EO directed the DHS to accelerate the development of. He's been strangely silent on it. I wonder why.

Because he is a fraud. You people think he is serious about all this...he isnt. The guy voted for Dubya and hates liberals...he is a younger version of Old Pio. He also doesnt like Muslims which is obvious by the things he posts...
 
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He's not even bothering to ask Congress to make rules, and failing- he's just doing what he wants. That seems hardly legal.

And history repeats.

Eight years ago it was the political Right saying that exact thing. Now it's the political Left.

Reid and the Ds brought the "nuclear option" into the Senate then. McConnell and the Rs will use it soon enough; it's coming.

I hope nobody is actually surprised by any of this.
 
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And history repeats.

Eight years ago it was the political Right saying that exact thing. Now it's the political Left.

Reid and the Ds brought the "nuclear option" into the Senate then. McConnell and the Rs will use it soon enough; it's coming.

I hope nobody is actually surprised by any of this.

Yes keep pretending that these things are the same...maybe if you say it enough times someone might believe you...or at least you might convince yourself.

Trump is doing all the things you all pretended Obama was doing. (ruling by Fiat, becoming the Emperor King) Congress is doing the same thing they did for 6 years under Obama...nothing.

If you want to ignore the substance of what is happening I will concede your point that both sides demonize the other. In the case of Trump vs. Obama one guy is actually acting like a demon and the other people just thought was a demon because [insert insult of Obama]. Obama and Trump are not the same. The Dems and the GOP RIGHT NOW are not the same. Until people start admitting that and looking what is really going on you arent helping.

tl;dr: Your BS "they all do it" is making this country worse. If I steal a candy bar and my co-worker embezzles $300,000 yes we both stole. One is significantly worse than the other. Denying that makes you sound like the Germans...
 
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And history repeats.

Eight years ago it was the political Right saying that exact thing. Now it's the political Left.

Reid and the Ds brought the "nuclear option" into the Senate then. McConnell and the Rs will use it soon enough; it's coming.

I hope nobody is actually surprised by any of this.

I hope nobody is surprised? Are you an idiot? We're not supposed to be surprised by an entry ban on potentially 100+ million people? People are being detained right now that have jobs and families in the U.S., potentially own homes or businesses, and pay taxes. Name ONE ****ING THING the Ds did that is even close to this. You can't. The Rs were talking about Obama taking their gunz!! 8 years ago, which was a load of bull****. Today we are talking about things TRUMP IS ACTUALLY DOING. The Ds wanted to go nuclear to get around the do nothing republicans that couldn't even confirm mundane court appointments. You are a joke. Pathetic pieces of **** like you are destroying everything this country stands for.
 
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And history repeats.

Eight years ago it was the political Right saying that exact thing. Now it's the political Left.

Reid and the Ds brought the "nuclear option" into the Senate then. McConnell and the Rs will use it soon enough; it's coming.

I hope nobody is actually surprised by any of this.

BSABSVR. Got it.
 
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None of the conservative people in here seem upset. I don't think anything the president or GOP is doing upsets them. They falsely try to point out that because they hated Obama with the fire of a thousand suns too, it's all the same.
They are the problem.
 
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If you want to ignore the substance of what is happening I will concede your point that both sides demonize the other.

You liked Obama and what he did. He did no wrong in your eyes. This new guy? He's crap-tacular to you.

A whole other group likes Trump and what he's doing. He does no wrong to them. That last guy? He was crap-tacular.

To me, neither is doing the job of President. Congress makes laws. Doing things because you have "a pen and a phone" or because you like to show off your signature in photo ops is no way to govern. Wa-a-aait ... the President isn't supposed to govern, the President is support to enforce the law.


For example, this immigration mess is just that: a mess. The prior guy threw the doors open and walked away (save for his actions with 48 hours left in his term, meaning "dry foot"). Everyone and anyone came in; we have no clue who-what-where for far too many. Now this new guy is slamming the door shut and a mine field in front of it. To me, both are stupid. Yes, stupid, both. There's a level of immigration that the US needs. Singling out < demographic here > doesn't play because it won't stand a court challenge, but not even keeping track of who is coming in is just as insidious.

Fix the < bleeping > law to allow a level of immigration to match what the country can support and needs. Oh, wait, that would be Congress fixing laws and doing its job.
Nevermind.


Instead we get Presidents blowing dog whistles at their bases.
 
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You liked Obama and what he did. He did no wrong in your eyes. This new guy? He's crap-tacular to you.

A whole other group likes Trump and what he's doing. He does no wrong to them. That last guy? He was crap-tacular.

To me, neither is doing the job of President. Congress makes laws. Doing things because you have "a pen and a phone" or because you like to show off your signature in photo ops is no way to govern. Wa-a-aait ... the President isn't supposed to govern, the President is support to enforce the law.


For example, this immigration mess is just that: a mess. The prior guy threw the doors open and walked away (save for his actions with 48 hours left in his term, meaning "dry foot"). Everyone and anyone came in; we have no clue who-what-where for far too many. Now this new guy is slamming the door shut and a mine field in front of it. To me, both are stupid. Yes, stupid, both. There's a level of immigration that the US needs. Singling out < demographic here > doesn't play because it won't stand a court challenge, but not even keeping track of who is coming in is just as insidious.

Fix the < bleeping > law to allow a level of immigration to match what the country can support and needs. Oh, wait, that would be Congress fixing laws and doing its job. Nevermind.

And people like you let them get away with it because you're so busy playing independent that you equate a paper cut with an amputation. It's doubly hilarious coming from you considering how much you rail against the media for doing the same farking thing.
 
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For example, this immigration mess is just that: a mess. The prior guy threw the doors open and walked away (save for his actions with 48 hours left in his term, meaning "dry foot"). Everyone and anyone came in; we have no clue who-what-where for far too many.

This is totally incorrect hyperbole, but nice strawman.
 
Re: POTUS 45.1 - You take the high road and I'll take the low road

You liked Obama and what he did. He did no wrong in your eyes. This new guy? He's crap-tacular to you.

A whole other group likes Trump and what he's doing. He does no wrong to them. That last guy? He was crap-tacular.

To me, neither is doing the job of President. Congress makes laws. Doing things because you have "a pen and a phone" or because you like to show off your signature in photo ops is no way to govern. Wa-a-aait ... the President isn't supposed to govern, the President is support to enforce the law.


For example, this immigration mess is just that: a mess. The prior guy threw the doors open and walked away (save for his actions with 48 hours left in his term, meaning "dry foot"). Everyone and anyone came in; we have no clue who-what-where for far too many. Now this new guy is slamming the door shut and a mine field in front of it. To me, both are stupid. Yes, stupid, both. There's a level of immigration that the US needs. Singling out < demographic here > doesn't play because it won't stand a court challenge, but not even keeping track of who is coming in is just as insidious.

Fix the < bleeping > law to allow a level of immigration to match what the country can support and needs. Oh, wait, that would be Congress fixing laws and doing its job.
Nevermind.


Instead we get Presidents blowing dog whistles at their bases.

No I dont like EOs no mater who does them. But lets not pretend that they did them for the same reason mmmkay? Obama did it because your side decided they didnt want to govern. The Right abdicated their legislative power so he acted. Trump is doing it because he has a small dick and no one will stop him. 10 EOs in 7 days...and not little things SERIOUS BLEEPING LEGISLATION! He is banning the EPA from releasing facts...he is a flipping Facist.

Your little Independent act is empowering Trump. When you question the media you embolden his de-legitimizing of them, when you equate him to Obama you legitimize his Facist actions and when you say "they all do it" you make it seem like everyone is breaking the same rules the same way.
 
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From a buddy on Facebook:

DeVos Help needed. They are three votes short of blocking her. If you live in ME, TN, AK, GA, UT, NC, WY, LA, KS, SC, or KY, call your Senators!
Please copy & paste this.
 
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