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POTUS 45.1 - You take the high road and I'll take the low road

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Drew S. said:
So whether someone displays a MLK bust or not determines if they are a racist? The stories about how small Trump's Inauguration Day crowd was started probably three or four hours before he took the oath, make of that what you will.
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That is not what I said.
 
FlagDUDE08 said:
Contrary to popular belief, it did happen. http://www.infowars.com/bombshell-at-least-25-million-dead-and-fraudulent-registered-voters-in-2016/
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Stop. We just explained a few pages back: you can be registered in multiple states. If you've ever moved to a different state, different county, Hell different voter zone, for work, for college, for whatever reason and you registered your address with the DMV or local government so you could vote while you're there, you're likely registered in multiple locations. It takes time, years if ever, for registered voter rolls to be purged from all these locations. Because every time you moved to a new location, did you ever call up the local polling agency and ask to be removed from the registry? No. It doesn't happen like that.

There are ZERO laws on the books regarding being registered to vote in multiple locations. The only rules are you must be registered to vote at your current address (IE: your driver's license address) for that polling station.


The fraud part is when you try to vote multiple times. Or are caught impersonating a registered voter. There ARE laws regarding voter fraud.

Being on multiple registrations IS NOT FRAUD.
 
aparch said:
Stop. We just explained a few pages back: you can be registered in multiple states. If you've ever moved to a different state, different county, Hell different voter zone, for work, for college, for whatever reason and you registered your address with the DMV or local government so you could vote while you're there, you're likely registered in multiple locations. It takes time, years if ever, for registered voter rolls to be purged from all these locations. Because every time you moved to a new location, did you ever call up the local polling agency and ask to be removed from the registry? No. It doesn't happen like that.

There are ZERO laws on the books regarding being registered to vote in multiple locations. The only rules are you must be registered to vote at your current address (IE: your driver's license address) for that polling station.


The fraud part is when you try to vote multiple times. Or are caught impersonating a registered voter. There ARE laws regarding voter fraud.

Being on multiple registrations IS NOT FRAUD.
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Don't some college kids vote at their school and not their permanent address?i thought that wasn't fraud.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
...It started out as a twitter story, was picked up by the left-wing sites, the administration blew up, and the mainstream media called them for basically acting like a North Korean dictatorship with the lies and false narratives.

You don't see an administration acting like Kim Jong-Un as a big deal?
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh come on. There is no way the Tangerine Tornado would stoop to such low levels and be caught Photoshopping portraits to improve his perceived image...

Oh.

Nevermind. Carry on.
 
Drew S. said:
Don't some college kids vote at their school and not their permanent address?i thought that wasn't fraud.
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Correct. It's not fraud.

https://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/student-voting-guide-faq

Each state has slightly different rules, but for the most part, students can register where they attend college.

*Edit* In some states, registering to vote may trigger the state DMV to request you get a state drivers license. Students who don't want to change their DL address could plan ahead and vote absetee, as some election boards allow for it.
 
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Drew S. said:
Don't some college kids vote at their school and not their permanent address?i thought that wasn't fraud.
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it's only voter fraud if the person casts ballots in both locations, not for simply being registered.
 
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SJHovey said:
John Galt?

Trump is doing this country the biggest favor possible and you guys are all too bitter to see it. This administration is just going to keep poking the media bear with a stick until it finally gets off it's a s s for the first time since McCarthy.
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One can only hope. It's long past time for them to stop sucking up to power, and actually do their jobs. Investigate. Report. Quit being stenographers.
 
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Handyman said:
You mean like how your side spent hundreds of hours and hundreds of thousands (if not millions) investigating various Clinton scandals (all because of a blow job) because "THEY LIED!!!!"? The Right has made a cottage industry out of finding the lamest thing, blowing it up, and demonizing people over it. Hell half of Trump's strategy was doing just that.

Lying is either relevant or it isnt. If it is then everything Trump is being attacked over is relevant. If it isnt, then you alls got some splainin' to do ;)
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I think we're talking about two different things here.

Political institutions, like the Republican Congress during Bill Clinton's presidency, or political parties, always engage in partisan behavior. I don't disagree with you that the Clinton sex investigation was probably a pretty gigantic waste of their time and money, but that's the thing about politics. They can decide what kind of political games they want to play to either stir up their side or embarrass the other.

If the Democrats in Congress, or the Democratic party apparatus want to spend a bunch of time and money trying to prove Trump a liar about the crowd size or making fun of his inauguration claims, more power to them. I have no problem with that.

What I was talking about was the institution of the media. I first posted my opinion that I thought Trump was actually going to do us all a big favor by waking the media out of it's lazy reporting methods it had fallen into. When Maize and others claimed the media was doing great things, I pointed to the rather pointless debate, for days, that the media got into with Trump over the size of the crowd.

If it had been a debate between Congressional Democrats and Trump, I wouldn't care. But it bothers me that the media still chooses to get distracted by comic sideshows like that when there obviously may be bigger fish to fry.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
There's another aspect to this:

Past administrations cared, worried, about what the media said about them. Past administrations wanted to be liked by the media.

This administration doesn't care what the media says about them or if the media likes them. Heck, this administration ran against the media ... and won. Does anyone think they're going to stop doing what worked? Not a chance; as SJHovey says, expect them to keep poking the bear.

Meanwhile, the media has never seen anything like this before. Someone is in their face and doesn't care what they (media) says or prints about them. The media's normal tools (scathing editorials or harsh advocacy journalism pieces) aren't working. Worse? They may be having the opposite effect this time!

The game has changed but the media is still using their old plays.
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Wrong. This administration desperately craves the media to write nothing but gushing love tomes about them and their orange leader. Orange leader especially craves this validation.

This is simply more of Trump's brand of domination politics. He'll bully and disparage the media until the media can't take it any longer, and will do anything to get back into his good graces. The exact same thing he's done to every opponent he's ever faced, in business and in his short political career. After enough bullying, he'll tweet something nice about them "Good story about my tax plan from CNN, well done", and the rest of the media will fall all over themselves to emulate those sorts of stories.

Because the media has no balls.
 
Drew S. said:
Don't some college kids vote at their school and not their permanent address?i thought that wasn't fraud.
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If they consider their college dorm to be their residence, it's not.

Which given that they spend 9 months there versus three with their parents, it's a reasonable perception.
 
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rufus said:
One can only hope. It's long past time for them to stop sucking up to power, and actually do their jobs. Investigate. Report. Quit being stenographers.
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Stenographers?
That means they actually wrote what was said.
Too often it feels like they are merely "Ctrl-A Ctrl-C Ctrl-V" what came in the media release.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Which means you can't. Yet more baseless claims from the left.
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“If you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably, maybe she wasn’t allowed to have anything to say. You tell me,”
 
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