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POTUS 45.08: Suckers

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I watched the party alienate too many working- and middle-class Americans.

And just how did they do that? By saying it's not ok to kick and make fun of the queer and trans-gendered people? By saying it's ok if two men or two women want to get married, and you shouldn't be allowed to turn them away from your business just cause you think that's icky? That cops shouldn't be allowed to kill the black guy just cause he opened the car door too quickly?

If that's what it is, then working and middle class Americans need to straighten up, get their heads out of their azzes and HTFU.
 
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In a way the country is uniting again. Not the 29%, obviously -- they live in their own bubble. But the 71% rest of us, including the conservatives who have brains, wake up every morning and think "what did the jackoff tweet overnight?" We're all just trying to survive the next four years.

I think we are developing an esprit du corps like WW1 soldiers in the trenches. And we're all thinking, "Lord, just get me to 2020 and I promise this will never happen again."

Victims if natural disasters often come out of the experience with tremendous feelings of community. We all may just do that.

Well we will see. Right now you have the center/right pundits like SE Cupp and her ilk admonishing the Right and Trump and if that keeps up then yeah. If they start to get (as Cupp called it on Maher) "amnesia" about the hypocrisy that is going on then all bets are off.

If any true moderates are out there in the GOP right now is their chance to show it. And no being pragmatic like a few of them are (I will vote against the party when my vote doesnt matter) doesnt count. Someone needs to stand up and wake these nimrods up.
 
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If any true moderates are out there in the GOP right now is their chance to show it. And no being pragmatic like a few of them are (I will vote against the party when my vote doesnt matter) doesnt count. Someone needs to stand up and wake these nimrods up.

I'm not talking about moderates vs radicals. Really there are very few moderate conservatives left -- if there are they're centrist Dems. That's a consequence of the extreme pendulum swing of the right over the last 30 years: the GOP middle is where the crazy radicals used to be, and extremist conservatives like the Freedumbers are essentially policy terrorists.

I'm talking about the split between people who are capable of thought and the Trump crowd. We're being held hostage right now by literally the stupidest people in the nation. Ideology at the moment is secondary to cognitive competence. Right or left, people with a brain are looking at each other, looking at Trump, and edging towards the door. Obviously conservatives can't say that out loud because of partisanship, but right now the thinking people in this country are all in the same boat.

It's a cross between being under enemy occupation and this.
 
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And just how did they do that? By saying it's not ok to kick and make fun of the queer and trans-gendered people? By saying it's ok if two men or two women want to get married, and you shouldn't be allowed to turn them away from your business just cause you think that's icky? That cops shouldn't be allowed to kill the black guy just cause he opened the car door too quickly?

If that's what it is, then working and middle class Americans need to straighten up, get their heads out of their azzes and HTFU.

I'd say this cartoon did a decent job at making light of the situation.
 
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Yes, I'm well aware, and I laughed when I read it. There are some, however, who refuse to see the truth. There here are Dems who won't or can't accept that their base is uninviting to the blue collar workers they need at the polls. Meanwhile, there are Repubs, like my cousin, who can't understand why people think many in their voting base are racists, and thus driving away the old Rockefeller Repubs.
 
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I'd say this cartoon did a decent job at making light of the situation.

The irony is the GOP and the Dems inside the Beltway -- the real people who do the work, not the people on TV -- are exactly the same person, fresh out of Princeton or Stanford. The Republicans are just better at playing dumb.
 
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Just a question, but absent legislation repealing them, can the White house unilaterally stop subsides for Obamacare from continuing? I assume they can try to slow them or bog them down via some sort of regulatory paperwork "foul-up", but can they legally eliminate them entirely?
 
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People who think I'm chicken little can eff off, first of all as I need to get that off my chest. I was one of the few around here who even sniffed a chance at where we are at right now and it sickens me that I was even remotely correct. But I was f cking correct to be worried wasn't I? People who are not scared 5h!tless right now can go pound sand because it is a crisis unlike we've seen. People you know and love will suffer immeasurably because of trump. Not some poor dirt farmer in Afghanistan or some other remote place, and that's bad enough. People right here in the good old U S of A. You know where the country is really on the right track and it's just a matter of time before the positive change will begin happening. I'm not just sounding the alarm either, I go to work every day trying to make lives better for working class people, trying to fight for living wages, trying to make sure people do not suffer because of who they love or what door they walk through when they have to take a p!ss. But what I see every time I turn around is people believing everything will be all right and trying the same old things. So I continue to sound the alarm at the same time I try to make my little piece of the world a little more fair, a little more livable.

I think we are developing an esprit du corps like WW1 soldiers in the trenches. And we're all thinking, "Lord, just get me to 2020 and I promise this will never happen again."

But seriously Kep, this is what you see right now? What the hell happened after WW1? Oh yeah, a world wide economic catastrophe that left people everywhere destitute, or worse, just dead. And it was rounded out by the single most destructive geopolitical event in the history of the world. Some of the guys in the trenches survived, sure. Only to die during the depression, or for many, in the next war. We better do a lot better than the poor blighters in the trenches.
 
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Just a question, but absent legislation repealing them, can the White house unilaterally stop subsides for Obamacare from continuing? I assume they can try to slow them or bog them down via some sort of regulatory paperwork "foul-up", but can they legally eliminate them entirely?

They can try but I dont think it would hold up in court. Plus, doing so would pretty much put a target on their back and would nullify any chance they have of blaming anyone but themselves.

That is the problem with this whole gambit...Trump is bluffing a hand he cant win against a hand no one would fold. The Dems only lose if they give in. They are sitting on pocket rockets and there are 2 aces in the middle. Trump knows this which is why he is betting all he has in hopes that he scares the Dems. He figures when the Wall doesnt get built he will be able to pass it off as the Dems screwing him over in the Senate and everyone will buy except he will have to answer not only for the fact that the Dems dont control Mexico (who was supposed to pay for it) but the fact that he has been publicly begging the Dems for money or he would screw people out of health care.

Now I am sure some Chicken Littles will tell us that Trump will get the money for the Wall and will destroy health care and anally rape us every night without lube and that is their prerogative but the truth is he is realizing that the free pass he got is dying and his first 100 days make him look even dumber than we all thought. His flip flopping makes John Kerry look like an oak and his weak willed decision making makes Dubya look like Harry Truman.
 
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Latest NBC/WSJ Poll has Trump at 54% disapproval and 40% approval. That is 10% worse than he was at in February...

Bad News For Random People in Syria...

Forty-five percent of respondents in the survey believe Trump is off to a poor start, with an additional 19 percent who say it's been "only a fair start." That's compared with a combined 35 percent who think the president's first three months in office have been either "good" or "great."

Trump's 100th day in office takes place on April 29.

By contrast, in the exact same question from April 2009 NBC/WSJ poll, 54 percent of Americans said that Barack Obama's first 100 days had gotten off to either a good or great start, while 25 percent said they were fair, and 21 percent called them poor.

Trump's overall job-approval rating stands at 40 percent — down four points from February. It's the lowest job-approval rating for a new president at this 100-day stage in the history of the NBC/WSJ poll.

Some breakdown:

The new NBC/WSJ poll also shows an erosion in some of Trump's top perceived qualities, with 50 percent of respondents giving Trump high marks for being firm and decisive in his decision-making - down from the 57 percent who gave him high marks here in February.

Another 39 percent of Americans give him high marks for changing business as usual in Washington - down from 45 percent two months ago.

Thirty-nine percent give him high marks for being effective and getting things done - down from 46 percent who said this back in February.

And only 25 percent give him high marks for being honest and trustworthy - down from 34 percent.

BTW: ABC/WSJ has him at 42% approval with a %3% disapproval...the lowest dating back to Ike!
 
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Firm and decisive in his decision making? I get the lunatics and morons would give him high marks, but anyone with a pulse should see he changes his mind every time a butterfly farts in Africa.
 
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Firm and decisive in his decision making? I get the lunatics and morons would give him high marks, but anyone with a pulse should see he changes his mind every time a butterfly farts in Africa.

The 25% who think he's honest should seek the care of a mental health care professional immediately.
 
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Firm and decisive in his decision making? I get the lunatics and morons would give him high marks, but anyone with a pulse should see he changes his mind every time a butterfly farts in Africa.

He's tall, speaks in simple sentences, and uses blustering rhetoric. The ape brain responds to that.
 
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Firm and decisive in his decision making? I get the lunatics and morons would give him high marks, but anyone with a pulse should see he changes his mind every time a butterfly farts in Africa.

He's firmly stiggin' it to the libs. That's the approval.
 
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Firm and decisive in his decision making? I get the lunatics and morons would give him high marks, but anyone with a pulse should see he changes his mind every time a butterfly farts in Africa.

He's firm, until some other glittering decision gets his attention. ;)

And I agree with the point that anyone who thinks he's honest should seek help.
 
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