POTUS 45.0: It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

[Spartanforlife4]

Re: POTUS 45.0: It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

Another great SNL opening courtesy of Putin.

 

[Stauber1]

Re: POTUS 45.0: It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

Read the link to the article I posted. They were told not to show up. It was the organizers choice not theirs.

Incorrect. They were removed as an official partner, nothing more.
Many of them did show up, and were not told to go home by organizers. In fact on their own twitter feed, they mention how many people at the march expressed disagreement, but also that they were glad that the group was there.

It's a good idea to know what you are talking about before raising criticism.

And is it really unreasonable for organizers with a specific platform to seek official partnerships with groups that don't have a core tenet in direct conflict with parts of that platform?

 

[Jimjamesak]

Incorrect. They were removed as an official partner, nothing more.
Many of them did show up, and were not told to go home by organizers. In fact on their own twitter feed, they mention how many people at the march expressed disagreement, but also that they were glad that the group was there.

It's a good idea to know what you are talking about before raising criticism.

And is it really unreasonable for organizers with a specific platform to seek official partnerships with groups that don't have a core tenet in direct conflict with parts of that platform?

This.

 

[unofan]

It perfectly sums up where the left is right now. There is no latitude at all for disagreement on any issue.

And how many anti gun republicans are there?

 

[geezer]

Incorrect. They were removed as an official partner, nothing more.
Many of them did show up, and were not told to go home by organizers. In fact on their own twitter feed, they mention how many people at the march expressed disagreement, but also that they were glad that the group was there.

Well that's good then. The last thing we need now is digging deeper divisions.

 

[The Rube]

Re: POTUS 45.0: It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

Wow you are *ing dense Brent.

Exhibit A.

Agree with ALL that I say, or p* off.

 

[Drew S.]

Re: POTUS 45.0: It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

Well that's good then. The last thing we need now is digging deeper divisions.

It depends on who you believe. This article makes it pretty clear that they were not welcome even though they weren't kicked out today https://qz.com/890798/womens-march-abortion/

 

[Drew S.]

Re: POTUS 45.0: It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

And how many anti gun republicans are there?

Not sure, but I wouldn't have any problem with them. As i've posted many a times on here people should believe what they want.

 

[The Rube]

Re: POTUS 45.0: It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

It depends on who you believe. This article makes it pretty clear that they were not welcome even though they weren't kicked out today https://qz.com/890798/womens-march-abortion/

I'm led to believe they were "officially" kicked out as a group. But there is no way they could stop them from showing up individually.

The "official" part is what I have an issue with. The 100% or Nothing side of things.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: POTUS 45.0: It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

Year, they're obviously trying to portray it otherwise but it looks like a last hurrah for the Hillary diehards. When you look at how many votes she received and how many people marched the number isn't as impressive.

Wow. You just have such a hardon for Trump. What was more pathetic? The turnout for trump given his supporters? Or the women (and I guess men) who showed up today?

I'll hang up and listen.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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All or nothing.

This goes for everyone: this is part of the problem. There is no compromise anymore. No gray areas. It's either/or. Makes me sick.

Do you seriously not understand the difference between rights and restricting them? Because what you just posted indicates a fundamental misunderstanding of that key concept.

You can either be for women's rights or be against abortion. There is zero overlap. Ok, maybe the medically unnecessary third trimester abortions, but they make up such a statistically insignificant number of abortions that it's almost not worth mentioning unless you're Mike Pence.

You can be for a woman's right to choose what to do with her body or you can be opposed to it. You cannot be both.

 

[Drew S.]

Re: POTUS 45.0: It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

Do you seriously not understand the difference between rights and restricting them? Because what you just posted indicates a fundamental misunderstanding of that key concept.

You can either be for women's rights or be against abortion. There is zero overlap. Ok, maybe the medically unnecessary third trimester abortions, but they make up such a statistically insignificant number of abortions that it's almost not worth mentioning unless you're Mike Pence.

You can be for a woman's right to choose what to do with her body or you can be opposed to it. You cannot be both.

Maybe some women feel the rights of the unborn fetus are more important than the mother? I'm just another ignorant conservative but I don't see where that is such an extreme/evil view. I would think you can have that view but still feel women should be treated better and want to move the cause forward.

 

[The Rube]

Re: POTUS 45.0: It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

Do you seriously not understand the difference between rights and restricting them? Because what you just posted indicates a fundamental misunderstanding of that key concept.

You can either be for women's rights or be against abortion. There is zero overlap. Ok, maybe the medically unnecessary third trimester abortions, but they make up such a statistically insignificant number of abortions that it's almost not worth mentioning unless you're Mike Pence.

You can be for a woman's right to choose what to do with her body or you can be opposed to it. You cannot be both.

The pro-life WOMEN'S group CHOOSE to be pro-life.

And even IF we were to twist that, and just say pro-life is bad, that is a SMALL part of the overall agenda, which I have previously mentioned. So it's all or nothing. And that's not a good thing.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

Maybe some women feel the rights of the unborn fetus are more important than the mother? I'm just another ignorant conservative but I don't see where that is such an extreme/evil view. I would think you can have that view but still feel women should be treated better and want to move the cause forward.

Then those women can choose to not have an abortion. Choose. Pretty simple.

 

[Drew S.]

Re: POTUS 45.0: It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

Wow. You just have such a hardon for Trump. What was more pathetic? The turnout for trump given his supporters? Or the women (and I guess men) who showed up today?

I'll hang up and listen.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that most Trump supporters were at work yesterday and couldn't attend. All snakiness aside, what I read, and makes sense, was that most of the people that go are local and there obviously aren't a lot of Trump supporters in that area.

I'm not a huge Trump guy but I do think he was far superior to Hillary.

 

[Stauber1]

Re: POTUS 45.0: It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

It depends on who you believe. This article makes it pretty clear that they were not welcome even though they weren't kicked out today https://qz.com/890798/womens-march-abortion/

Did you read that article, or just the headline? Because there is nothing in the article that indicates organizers took any action to discourage anti-abortion individuals from attending. The article has quotes from people who hold an anti-abortion stance that planned on attending, and those who said they didn't want to due to the platform.

And again, I'd refer you to New Wave Feminists' twitter feed if you want to know how they actually felt while being there.

 

[Stauber1]

Re: POTUS 45.0: It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

I'm led to believe they were "officially" kicked out as a group. But there is no way they could stop them from showing up individually.

The "official" part is what I have an issue with. The 100% or Nothing side of things.

They weren't kicked out of anything. They were removed as an official partner.
I have to say I myself am a bit confused how this distinction is proving to be so hard for some to understand. It really comes off as searching for something to get up in arms about.

 

[geezer]

Re: POTUS 45.0: It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

Trump is handling the press exactly like his buddy Vladimir did before he accrued enough power to just kill them.
1. Create artificial scarcity of access by inviting tons of fringy no-name loyalists to press conferences.
2. Tell them lies and reward the toads who will accept the lies
3.divert attention from important things like cabinet posts by screaming nonsense about crowd sizes and whatnot
4. Other stuff I forgot... but be careful not to fall for it.

 

[Drew S.]

Re: POTUS 45.0: It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

Did you read that article, or just the headline? Because there is nothing in the article that indicates organizers took any action to discourage anti-abortion individuals from attending. The article has quotes from people who hold an anti-abortion stance that planned on attending, and those who said they didn't want to due to the platform.

And again, I'd refer you to New Wave Feminists' twitter feed if you want to know how they actually felt while being there.

The article makes it quite clear from the quotes pro life women didn't feel they were welcome and weren't going to attend. Obviously some attended anyway. One person running a twitter account now counts as a good source? That's pretty flimsy evidence to say the least.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: POTUS 45.0: It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

The pro-life WOMEN'S group CHOOSE to be pro-life.

And even IF we were to twist that, and just say pro-life is bad, that is a SMALL part of the overall agenda, which I have previously mentioned. So it's all or nothing. And that's not a good thing.

You cannot claim to be completely in favor of women's rights and be against their right to choose. Full stop.