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Plattsburgh State Hockey 2010-11

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Anyone have an update on Cardinal injuries?
Where do we stand on that front for the weekend?

Might be more interesting to talk about
than having this back and forth about the
playing in Elmira.

Go Cards!!
 
Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey 2010-11

Anyone have an update on Cardinal injuries?
Where do we stand on that front for the weekend?

Might be more interesting to talk about
than having this back and forth about the
playing in Elmira.

Go Cards!!

If you listen to BTB I beleive Emery said everyone is ready to go...finally...
 
Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey 2010-11

Anyone have an update on Cardinal injuries?
Where do we stand on that front for the weekend?

Might be more interesting to talk about
than having this back and forth about the
playing in Elmira.

Go Cards!!

Docking was back in the lineup against Williams. I think we're at full strength?
 
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Stat of the Day - Dylan Clarke currently sits 26th on the Cardinals all-time scoring list with 129 points. He's two points back from passing Jim Duran and Jason Kilcan who are tied for 25th with 131 points. :D
 
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Arguing that Castleton is an "upgrade" based on their performance this season is silly. Elmira has been a consistently strong team for better than 20 years; Castleton has existed as a varsity program 7 and change.

Arguing that Emery's quotes should be construed as anything (eg, fear of playing at the Domes, dissatisfaction with the facility, personal hatred of eagles) besides a remark on his desire to reduce travel time and costs is equally silly. Virtually every scheduling adjustment by Plattsburgh for the past decade has reflected this mentality, and none have been questioned as attempts to duck an opponent on the road.

Emery wants short trips and solid opponents. Elmira cannot provide the former, and hopefully Castleton will provide the latter. Barring a monumental collapse of the Plattsburgh State program, he should be entirely able to reevaluate things in a couple of seasons should this prove not to be the case.
 
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Arguing that Castleton is an "upgrade" based on their performance this season is silly. Elmira has been a consistently strong team for better than 20 years; Castleton has existed as a varsity program 7 and change.

Arguing that Emery's quotes should be construed as anything (eg, fear of playing at the Domes, dissatisfaction with the facility, personal hatred of eagles) besides a remark on his desire to reduce travel time and costs is equally silly. Virtually every scheduling adjustment by Plattsburgh for the past decade has reflected this mentality, and none have been questioned as attempts to duck an opponent on the road.

Emery wants short trips and solid opponents. Elmira cannot provide the former, and hopefully Castleton will provide the latter. Barring a monumental collapse of the Plattsburgh State program, he should be entirely able to reevaluate things in a couple of seasons should this prove not to be the case.

I agree, the whole Castleton>Elmira is based off of someone having the "Plattsburghs afraid to come to Elmira" perception. He even said it himself that he has Castleton above Elmira...wouldn't that mean upgrade.....hense the sarcasm....There are a lot of things Bob would love to change....but he has someone above him now that would rather see the hockey program just become "another" program at Plattsburgh and not "the" program. Some people just don't want to believe its only about cost and not about who their playing. Hell Norwich is a lot scarier then Elmira....lets not go there anymore....maybe we shouldn't have gone to Middlebury every other year during their runs.....being only 45 minutes away from Elmira...it will suck not having a game down here every other year, but driving to Plattsburgh for a game and coming home the next day....I know how bad the long drive sucks. Bob has said it several times, he wished there were two teams he could play on the same trip to Elmira...and seeing how he will never play at Hobart (unless made too), he had no other option with a budget cutting administration jumping down his throat. Maybe Elmira can be like Utica and schedule Franklin Pierce for a game or two instead of Plattsburgh now....
 
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I may have a pair of tickets available for Oswego , good seats in the heart of the Cardinal faithful

Sorry for not being able to check back sooner. I'd be very interested in 2. But would love 4. I perhaps will go to the girls afternoon game. This would help some maybe too!!!!
What the hell else do you do in Plattsburgh on a Saturday afternoon!!! ::D Thanks a ton for even answering. I'm for sure going to Potsdam. Be a waste to not try to get in for the Platty game!!! e-mail huffme@hotmail.com Thanks again......
 
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Surging Cardinals play host to Geneseo - {Article from the Plattsburgh Press-Republican 1/21/2011}

7th-ranked Geneseo presents challenge to surging Plattsburgh

The Plattsburgh State men's hockey team opened its 2010-11 season on the road October 29 with a disappointing 7-3 loss at Geneseo.

That started a bad stretch for the Cardinals, who went 2-4 in their first six State University of New York Athletic Conference games.

Plattsburgh State (11-4-1, 4-4-0), however, has rebounded since then to go 9-0-1 in its last 10 games, featuring some key wins over ranked non-conference foes.

But, now, the 13th-ranked Cardinals need to do something about their current fifth-place standing in the conference and it begins tonight with an opponent Plattsburgh State should have no problem getting ready for.

Geneseo (11-4-2, 5-2-1), currently ranked seventh in the country in Division III, is in town for a 7 p.m. showdown at the Stafford Ice Arena, with Plattsburgh State hoping for some revenge.

"We're back in league play and we're behind the eight-ball, no doubt about it," said Plattsburgh State head coach Bob Emery. "Geneseo is ahead of us in the standings and they have already beaten us once.

"But, we have an opportunity to beat the seventh-ranked team in the country. We had to take advantage of the opportunity. They are a good team and have proved that all year. We have to take care of the puck and play with emotion.

"You would think payback would be on our players' minds. They should know how they felt after our first game with Geneseo and be ready to play this time. But, you never know in today's world."


The Knights, who are tied with Morrisville for second place in the SUNYAC standings, are coming off a 4-3 non-conference home loss to Elmira this past Saturday.

Geneseo has eight players with 10 points or more, led by freshman Zachary Vit (9-14-23), freshman Rich Manley (9-9-18) and junior Jonathan Redick (4-14-18).

The Knights have used two goaltenders for the most part — junior Cory Gershon (4-3-1, 2.23 gaa) and sophomore Adrian Rubeniuk (6-1-1, 2.29 gaa). Gershon made 35 saves in the first meeting with the Cardinals.

"Geneseo is a heck of a team and they are well coached," said Emery. "It should be a great game."

In the first meeting between the two, Plattsburgh State held a 38-26 shot advantage. But, it meant nothing.

The Knights jumped out to a 3-1 lead in the first period, held a 4-1 edge after two and tallied the first two goals of the third for a commanding 6-1 advantage.

The Cardinals come into the weekend on a roll, but Emery downplays it.

"That's all well, but you're only as good as your last game — not games," he said. "We have to take care of business — this game has the upmost importance.

"Geneseo is coming in here feeling good about themselves. They have been ranked in the top 10 all season and are playing with confidence."
The Cardinals return to the ice Saturday night at 7 p.m. when they host Brockport.
 
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I agree, the whole Castleton>Elmira is based off of someone having the "Plattsburghs afraid to come to Elmira" perception.

Not once have I said Plattsburgh was afraid to play Elmira in Elmira. Please show me where I stated that.

Maybe Elmira can be like Utica and schedule Franklin Pierce for a game or two instead of Plattsburgh now....

Nope. PrimeLink and Northfield Savings Bank Tourney next year.
 
Not once have I said Plattsburgh was afraid to play Elmira in Elmira. Please show me where I stated that.



Nope. PrimeLink and Northfield Savings Bank Tourney next year.

So what's your beef then. You've implied it pretty well. You're going to hold a grudge on a program because time wise and financially it makes sense to drop Elmira in favor of Castleton? You want to keep coming back to "bob said he doesn't want to go to Elmira"....but you never go on with how many times Bob has said he likes going to Elmira if he had another game to schedule to make the trip feesable. It has little to nothing to do with not wanting to play Elmira/in Elmira. I have a strong feeling Bob was a big part on lobbying to get Elmira to the Primelink. I'm sure if you want to donate some $$$$ and send the bus down, pay for hotels and meals for the team Emery would be more then happy to go to Elmira.
 
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Not once have I said Plattsburgh was afraid to play Elmira in Elmira. Please show me where I stated that.



Nope. PrimeLink and Northfield Savings Bank Tourney next year.

My vote: Add Elmira as the permanent 4th team in the Primelink. Although you could argue that I have abiased opinion and don't get a vote due to conflict of interests. But if I don't get a vote, neither does Derek. ;)
 
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So what's your beef then. You've implied it pretty well. You're going to hold a grudge on a program because time wise and financially it makes sense to drop Elmira in favor of Castleton? You want to keep coming back to "bob said he doesn't want to go to Elmira"....but you never go on with how many times Bob has said he likes going to Elmira if he had another game to schedule to make the trip feesable. It has little to nothing to do with not wanting to play Elmira/in Elmira. I have a strong feeling Bob was a big part on lobbying to get Elmira to the Primelink. I'm sure if you want to donate some $$$$ and send the bus down, pay for hotels and meals for the team Emery would be more then happy to go to Elmira.

I shouldn't have to. Elmira makes the trip and I didn't have to fund them to do it. The Plattsburgh women's team makes the trip.

My beef is Elmira is willing to keep the series going, Plattsburgh is the one ending it. It's been a longstanding rivalry and it's a shame that it's being thrown out the window because one team wants to pull out and play a different team.

It has nothing to do with being "scared" to go to Elmira. Although lately it hasn't been the same, Plattsburgh has had their fair share of wins at the MAC and I've been around D-III long enough to know Emery isn't fazed by anything. I have complete respect for the man and what he's accomplished. You can't get a better coach in D-III.

But the notion that Elmira should have to do all the work to keep this series going and keep making trips to North Country or the CCCP is a bit appauling.
 
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My vote: Add Elmira as the permanent 4th team in the Primelink. Although you could argue that I have abiased opinion and don't get a vote due to conflict of interests. But if I don't get a vote, neither does Derek. ;)

If Elmira gets to host, then sure. If not, screw that. ;)
 
Hobart or Utica might make a good second game - also maybe they could piggyback on the trip to Morrisville.

You're dealing with a 4 hour bus ride to Morrisville or Utica...so that adds another night. With Plattsburghs schedule they don't have a game to give up. That's the downfall of the primelink/cardinal classic

Emery has said for a long time he will never be back to the Hobart rink until the build a new one.
 
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You're dealing with a 4 hour bus ride to Morrisville or Utica...so that adds another night. With Plattsburghs schedule they don't have a game to give up. That's the downfall of the primelink/cardinal classic

Emery has said for a long time he will never be back to the Hobart rink until the build a new one.

Well you drop Skidmore quite easily I would think if you want to make a more "competitive" schedule like your Elmira/Castleton reasoning.

Plus, in most years, and maybe still this year as it seems Williams has hit a wall, the Ephs aren't exactly lighting things up record wise either.

Either of those games could be dropped for a Hobart or Utica along with Elmira weekend.
 
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You're dealing with a 4 hour bus ride to Morrisville or Utica...so that adds another night. With Plattsburghs schedule they don't have a game to give up. That's the downfall of the primelink/cardinal classic

Emery has said for a long time he will never be back to the Hobart rink until the build a new one.


Long live Pond Hockey!!!
 
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You're dealing with a 4 hour bus ride to Morrisville or Utica...so that adds another night. With Plattsburghs schedule they don't have a game to give up. That's the downfall of the primelink/cardinal classic

Emery has said for a long time he will never be back to the Hobart rink until the build a new one.

When did they go? Was it after or before the renovation? It's actually not that bad anymore. It's comparable to Morrisville now. Maybe a little smaller capacity wise.
 
When did they go? Was it after or before the renovation? It's actually not that bad anymore. It's comparable to Morrisville now. Maybe a little smaller capacity wise.

Prior too, and I agree its not as bad now. We play there every Sunday. This isn't about Bob Emery, its about the administration making cut backs. Put Elmiras budget against Plattsburghs and see what you get. In order to keep some of the perks cuts had to be made. I'm sure Bob would rather cut the Buff/Freddy weekend to keep Plattsburgh, but that can't happen.......

Hey Ducky...why don't you do us all a favor and ask Bob tonight about the whole Elmira deal and get his personal opinion.......
 
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