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PC Police: A New Low

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Did anyone actually read about the Oberlin College policy?

What the story was about, but what the link that was given to us didn't explain, is that a committee or group at Oberlin College basically proposed a policy for professors dealing with "trigger warnings." I guess a trigger warning is where the college professor warns you that you are about read about racial issues before he assigns To Kill A Mockingbird as part of his literature class. This is to give a "heads up" to students who might be traumatized by reading about racial discrimination.

I think the example I read was one professor who showed the move The Accused in his class, and someone who was recently raped was traumatized by that. (It does beg the question, what the heck are they doing watching the movie The Accused in a college class, unless I suppose it was some sort of film study class.)

I don't really think the Oberlin College situation (which is now under review and has not yet been implemented) in necessarily political correctness reaching new lows. It certainly seems like unnecessary levels of paternalism, imho, but I suppose that could be debated.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
That isn't unfair discrimination, that's making sure you have the basic educational background necessary to succeed in the college classroom. By your logic, employers who require candidates for an open position to have a bachelor's degree and/or 10 years of experience are also "discriminating".

Until you're 18, your parents have a responsibility to properly educate and prepare you to contribute to society. Once you turn 18, that responsibility becomes yours. However, you don't have a choice regarding the color of your skin, any disabilities, sexual orientation, etc.
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Beg to differ just a bit. I am responsible for the grade on the paper, not the parents. I don't care if I'm 5 or 55 it's my work, not the work of others.

As to disability - maybe. If I'm in a wheelchair as a result of wrapping my car around a tree, that's on me. If I'm in a wheelchair because of polio, no.
 
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Did someone change the definition of "diversity" lately? :confused:

I was reading about the Little League team from Chicago that won the US Little League world series, and it was touted as a "triumph of diversity." The team is 100% black. :rolleyes:
 
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When I read some of the news stories coming out of college campuses these days, I wonder which ones are real and which ones are satire....except none of them seem to be satire, despite how they sound....

Student leaders have pulled the mat out from 60 University of Ottawa students, ending a free on-campus yoga class over fears the teachings could be seen as a form of “cultural appropriation.”



The centre goes on to say, “Yoga has been under a lot of controversy lately due to how it is being practiced,” and which cultures those practices “are being taken from.”

The centre official argues since many of those cultures “have experienced oppression, cultural genocide and diasporas due to colonialism and western supremacy . . . we need to be mindful of this and how we express ourselves while practising yoga.”
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Smith College - https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...s-bolted-event-due-to-solidarity-requirement/
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Is it still called fascism if it's a restriction placed upon thought and not a religious or genetic difference? In about 20 years, we're going to see the current students holding a large portion of government jobs and elected offices, and we're seeing that they're not only willing, but actually taking strong arm tactics to push their agendas. If you don't ascribe to their exact belief system, you're not allowed into the party - you can't even be neutral.

Their colleges and universities are failing them.
 
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St. Clown said:
Is it still called fascism if it's a restriction placed upon thought and not a religious or genetic difference? In about 20 years, we're going to see the current students holding a large portion of government jobs and elected offices, and we're seeing that they're not only willing, but actually taking strong arm tactics to push their agendas. If you don't ascribe to their exact belief system, you're not allowed into the party - you can't even be neutral.

Their colleges and universities are failing them.
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These things swing back and forth. There was ideological intolerance from the right on campus in the 50s. Now it's from the left and plenty of us on the left are aware of it and understand the need to change it. "Intolerance Studies" would be interesting. Liberals have a tendency to try to reduce everything to root systems with only extrinsic varieties, so we ought to be able to clean our own stable more easily than the right could. We have better tools and tendencies -- we just aren't bringing the analytic hammer down the way we should.
 
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In the urban Mpls circles in which I run, I can't recall anyone born after say '60 or younger ever give a racial slur, such as the n* word. Frankly everyone of this generation or younger is very respectful of Hispanics, Hmong, and Somali. Guessing its a manifestation of 'Minnesota Nice'. Its PC that seems to work. Having said that, there could be some who don't feel the same way.

Edit: perhaps I should delete this post as I just noticed that someone shot a BLM protester on the north side.
 
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5mn_Major said:
In the urban Mpls circles in which I run, I can't recall anyone born after say '60 or younger ever give a racial slur, such as the n* word. Frankly everyone of this generation or younger is very respectful of Hispanics, Hmong, and Somali. Guessing its a manifestation of 'Minnesota Nice'. Its PC that seems to work. Having said that, there could be some who don't feel the same way.
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I've heard it, but very rarely. Maybe five or six times in my 31 years. I'm not including references to things like Blazing Saddles quotes.
 
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5mn_Major said:
In the urban Mpls circles in which I run, I can't recall anyone born after say '60 or younger ever give a racial slur, such as the n* word. Frankly everyone of this generation or younger is very respectful of Hispanics, Hmong, and Somali. Guessing its a manifestation of 'Minnesota Nice'. Its PC that seems to work. Having said that, there could be some who don't feel the same way.

Edit: perhaps I should delete this post as I just noticed that someone shot a BLM protester on the north side.
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First, you don't know from where the shooters originate. They could be Minnesotans or from another state, trying to make some grand political statement of some idiocy or another.

Second, I grew up in Apple Valley and Rosemount, on the edge of the suburbs and the then rural farm areas. I grew up hearing that word not a lot, but certainly not such a rare occurrence as it would be nothing. That was one of the areas where two different worlds were coming into conflict culturally.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I've heard it, but very rarely. Maybe five or six times in my 31 years. I'm not including references to things like Blazing Saddles quotes.
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I heard it all the time in HS and in college, and in my adult life.

Now, if you want to clarify lyrics, quotes, "nig-GAH"* (which IS different in black culture), etc....we can do that, that's fine.

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty3SArUjgvQ
 
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5mn_Major said:
Really? Where've you been?

Say I see RIP Old Pio...is that for real?
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My HS was rather diverse, shall we say. Quite a few "ers" and even more "ahs" forms of the word. Attended U of MN-Duluth after that, and although at the time they were prejudiced against the feather-Indians, they didn't like the brothas, either.

As for using the word in a non-slur situation, like quotes and such, I and many people I know do like some rap music, so lyrics come up quite a bit.
 
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Brenthoven said:
As for using the word in a non-slur situation...
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We recently had a kerfluffle in our state about the word "Negro", which is still part of the United Negro College Fund. The Spanish word for black was used to name a local landmark over a hundred years ago, and now a state senator wants that landmark re-named because he claims the word "Negro" is offensive to some people. I guess the people who run the College Fund didn't get the memo, senator? and what are all those Spanish-speaking people supposed to do when they want to describe the Oakland Raiders team colors?
 
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Brenthoven said:
My HS was rather diverse, shall we say. Quite a few "ers" and even more "ahs" forms of the word.
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My HS was one third white, black and brown. From the kids I heard every possible permutation of every possible racial slur, for every possible purpose, every day. I never heard any adult use any type of slur (except gay slurs, which were ubiquitous. It was the 70s and people were still morons about that.)

Having lived in the northeast, mid-Atlantic, south (though not the deep south) and west, the only place I've ever heard adults use the n-word regularly as a disparaging term is Boston, where blue collars used it constantly as late as the 90s. Lower middle class whites in Boston were laughably racist. In Southie they never got the memo that the 50s are over.
 
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FreshFish said:
We recently had a kerfluffle in our state about the word "Negro", which is still part of the United Negro College Fund. The Spanish word for black was used to name a local landmark over a hundred years ago, and now a state senator wants that landmark re-named because he claims the word "Negro" is offensive to some people. I guess the people who run the College Fund didn't get the memo, senator? and what are all those Spanish-speaking people supposed to do when they want to describe the Oakland Raiders team colors?
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Different pronunciation. Spanish is NAY-gro as opposed to NEE-gro.

But let's not have facts get in the way of your ignorant argument. :rolleyes:
 
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