Patty Kazmaier 2014

[mnpokecheck]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

Brandt should be, but I think Minnesota hangover is a very real thing. It would not surprise me if she suffers because of it.

Hasn't stopped them in the past.

2013 Amanda Kessel University of Minnesota Forward Madison, Wis.
2012 Brianna Decker University of Wisconsin Forward Dousman, Wis.
2011 Meghan Duggan University of Wisconsin Forward Danvers, Mass.
2010 Vicki Bendus Mercyhurst College Forward Wasaga Beach, Ont.
2009 Jessie Vetter University of Wisconsin Goaltender Cottage Grove, Wis.
2008 Sarah Vaillancourt Harvard University Forward Sherbrooke, Que.
2007 Julie Chu Harvard University Forward Fairfield, Conn.
2006 Sara Bauer University of Wisconsin Forward St. Catharines, Ont.
2005 Krissy Wendell University of Minnesota Forward Brooklyn Park, Minn.
2004 Angela Ruggiero Harvard University Defenseman Harper Woods, Mich.
2003 Jennifer Botterill Harvard University Forward Winnipeg, Man.
2002 Brooke Whitney Northeastern University Forward Snohomish, Wash.
2001 Jennifer Botterill Harvard University Forward Winnipeg, Man.
2000 Ali Brewer Brown University Goaltender Racine, Wis.
1999 A.J. Mleczko Harvard University Forward Nantucket, Mass.
1998 Brandy Fisher University of New Hampshire Forward Potsdam, N.Y.

 

[mnpokecheck]

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Interesting that UMD has not has a PK winner considering their Championship success.....too many Harvard Olympians to compete against or perhaps East Coast leanings in the beginning.

 

[pokechecker]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

Interesting that UMD has not has a PK winner considering their Championship success.....too many Harvard Olympians to compete against or perhaps East Coast leanings in the beginning.

they couldn't deny giving it to Wendell (or Darwitz) after the season they had and getting beat yet again by a WCHA team. let's face it folks, women's hockey was the province of snooty high SES (some would say the high SES still exists) private colleges until title IX nudged public schools to adopt hockey, and you gotta wonder if the backers of the bill had Canadians in mind when they wanted more athletic opportunities for women

 

[Timothy A]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

Wisconsin gives up 1.1/goals per game and the one Badger in the top ten is a forward who is t17th in points?

I'm a little bummed Rigsby didn't make the cut. I think her lost time when injured hurt her and cost her some starts. I hope Desbiens' stellar stats did not hurt Rigsby. It's not Rigbsy's fault her backup is that freaking good. I fully expect Desbiens to be on the final 10 list next year.

I don't think Ammerman should be on the list. I've seen just about every UW home game and she is not dominent like Decker and Duggan were, or Knight for that fact.

 

[mnpokecheck]

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I fully expect Desbiens to be on the final 10 list next year.

Looking at her body of work - other than UND (a split) and UMD (.500 team), work was against lower division teams and only one goalie was a PK finalist this year.....you have lofty expectations.

 

[Timothy A]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

Looking at her body of work - other than UND (a split) and UMD (.500 team), work was against lower division teams and only one goalie was a PK finalist this year.....you have lofty expectations.

I do, she's that good. If Rigsby didn't lose a bunch of games to injury, I'm pretty confident she would have made it this year, but who knows. UW is returning a deep team and has some blue chuppah recruits coming in, so I don't see UW's stellar team D taking a hit at all. Her wow factor will be her first year of starting. The next 2 years it will be more expected and there less of a shock and awe as to how good her numbers will be. Plus UW has a history of excellent goaltending, so UW's street cred will help her also. My other bold prediction is that in 2018 it will be Rigsby vs Desbiens for gold.

 

[ARM]

Her wow factor will be her first year of starting.

Leveille didn't benefit from much of a wow factor in her first year with gaudy numbers.

 

[NMH]

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Hasn't stopped them in the past.

2013 Amanda Kessel University of Minnesota Forward Madison, Wis.
2012 Brianna Decker University of Wisconsin Forward Dousman, Wis.
2011 Meghan Duggan University of Wisconsin Forward Danvers, Mass.
2010 Vicki Bendus Mercyhurst College Forward Wasaga Beach, Ont.
2009 Jessie Vetter University of Wisconsin Goaltender Cottage Grove, Wis.
2008 Sarah Vaillancourt Harvard University Forward Sherbrooke, Que.
2007 Julie Chu Harvard University Forward Fairfield, Conn.
2006 Sara Bauer University of Wisconsin Forward St. Catharines, Ont.
2005 Krissy Wendell University of Minnesota Forward Brooklyn Park, Minn.
2004 Angela Ruggiero Harvard University Defenseman Harper Woods, Mich.
2003 Jennifer Botterill Harvard University Forward Winnipeg, Man.
2002 Brooke Whitney Northeastern University Forward Snohomish, Wash.
2001 Jennifer Botterill Harvard University Forward Winnipeg, Man.
2000 Ali Brewer Brown University Goaltender Racine, Wis.
1999 A.J. Mleczko Harvard University Forward Nantucket, Mass.
1998 Brandy Fisher University of New Hampshire Forward Potsdam, N.Y.

I didn't mean in terms of back-to-back Patty's - I just mean overall. I think in the rest of the country, there's always a sense of being sick of the WCHA and now there's the Minnesota dominance on top of that and I think this situation where there isn't a clear front-runner sets the situation for some backlash.

To be fair, I have absolutely no basis for this feeling, it's just my gut that there's animosity and an "ugh, we're so sick of them" mentality out there.

 

[brookyone]

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I didn't mean in terms of back-to-back Patty's - I just mean overall. I think in the rest of the country, there's always a sense of being sick of the WCHA and now there's the Minnesota dominance on top of that and I think this situation where there isn't a clear front-runner sets the situation for some backlash.

To be fair, I have absolutely no basis for this feeling, it's just my gut that there's animosity and an "ugh, we're so sick of them" mentality out there.

I don't doubt the theory at all. I think the hangover severity may be increased by having all three finalists in the previous season from one roster.

 

[ARM]

I didn't mean in terms of back-to-back Patty's - I just mean overall. I think in the rest of the country, there's always a sense of being sick of the WCHA and now there's the Minnesota dominance on top of that and I think this situation where there isn't a clear front-runner sets the situation for some backlash.

Neither Decker nor Vaillancourt were slam-dunk winners and they won the Kaz a year after a teammate, so I sense that the Kaz committee does want to award someone they see as deserving.

 

[NMH]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

Neither Decker nor Vaillancourt were slam-dunk winners and they won the Kaz a year after a teammate, so I sense that the Kaz committee does want to award someone they see as deserving.

This is likely a true statement.
I do like the switch to committee for the final vote. I think I forgot sometimes that it switches as we're talking about this. So my point is probably pretty moot.

 

[dave1381]

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I have to think that this weekend loss to Yale and benching ends Maschmeyer's chances, unless she starts and posts back-to-back 50 save shutouts this weekend and voting is actually after this weekend (as it has been entirely inconsistent whether voting is before or after the conference finals weekend).

 

[CrazyDave]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

I have to think that this weekend loss to Yale and benching ends Maschmeyer's chances, unless she starts and posts back-to-back 50 save shutouts this weekend and voting is actually after this weekend (as it has been entirely inconsistent whether voting is before or after the conference finals weekend).

That might be difficult given the Top-3 are being announced this Thursday.

 

[dave1381]

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Ok, I hadn't seen the schedule, thanks.

 

[pokechecker]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

..the Kaz committee does want to award someone they see as deserving.

I would think leading the nation in scoring and being named a WCHA scholar athlete ought to get Hannah Brandt a good shot at being one of the 3 finalists.

or maybe this: (although I think some of her passes this year are more impressive)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hds4BQ282Rw

 

[THEWIZARD]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

Name Year Pos. School
Erin Ambrose Sophomore D Clarkson University No way
Brittany Ammerman Senior F University of Wisconsin Not a chance
Kelly Babstock Senior F Quinnipiac University Def final 3
Christine Bestland Senior F Mercyhurst University Not a chance
Rachael Bona Junior F University of Minnesota Nope
Hannah Brandt Sophomore F University of Minnesota Def final 3
Sarah Lefort Sophomore F Boston University Never
Emerance Maschmeyer Sophomore G Harvard University Nope
Jamie Lee Rattray Senior F Clarkson University Def final 3
Jillian Saulnier Junior F Cornell University Nope

 

[brookyone]

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http://thehockeywriters.com/ncaa-womens-hockey-2014-patty-kazmaier-award-top-10-list/

 

[THEWIZARD]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

Let's get this thing started.....final 3.....Brandt , Babstock and Rattray.....

 

[D2D]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

Let's get this thing started.....final 3.....Brandt , Babstock and Rattray.....

As good of a guess as any, I think.

 

[pokechecker]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

Let's get this thing started.....final 3.....Brandt , Babstock and Rattray.....

if those are the final three I'd have to go with Brandt, nations leading scorer and a better +/- too
I'd substitute Ambrose for Babstock or Rattray though for the final three

but in the end, I don't really care