Patty Kazmaier 2014

[DC78-82]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

In order to look at how the top 10 (really the top 9, because Maschmeyer is in a class all her own here) stack up against each other, I plucked them from the Collegehockeystats.net lists. Some interesting things that stood out to me were that, assuming the data is correct, neither Minny candidate has a power play goal. I was also impressed that Sarah Lefort leads the country in GWG's, which to me makes her stand out, particularly since she is on a team currently outside the NCAA tournament fiels going into the league Championship weekend.

I realize that the Award is about more than stats, but since these are the only concrete way we have to distinguish one from another, it helps me to justify gut feelings / opinions of who does or does not move into the top 3 tomorrow.


Points Per Game:............................................................GP...G- A- P......P/GM
1...................Hannah Brandt..........Minnesota..SO....F......36...21-40-61....1.69
2...................Jillian Saulnier...........Cornell.......JR.....F......31...26-26-52....1.68
3...................Jamie Lee Rattray......Clarkson.....SR....F......36...28-29-57....1.58
4...................Rachael Bona............Minnesota...JR....F......36...20-35-55....1.53
5...................Christine Bestland......Mercyhurst.SR....F......33...20-30-50....1.52
6...................Sarah Lefort.............Boston U....SO....F......35...30-23-53....1.51
8...................Kelly Babstock..........Quinnipiac...SR....F......36...19-30-49....1.36
9...................Erin Ambrose............Clarkson.....SO....D......36...13-35-48....1.33
18tx2..............Brittany Ammerman...Wisconsin....SR....F......35...22-20-42....1.20

Goals Per Game:.............................................................GP.....G....G/GM
1..................Sarah Lefort............Boston U... SO.....F.......35....30...0.86
2..................Jillian Saulnier..........Cornell.......JR......F.......31.....26...0.84
4.................Jamie Lee Rattray......Clarkson.....SR.....F.......36.....28...0.78
8.................Brittany Ammerman....Wisconsin...SR.....F.......35.....22...0.63
9................Christine Bestland.......Mercyhurst..SR....F.......33.....20...0.61
13...............Hannah Brandt..........Minnesota....SO....F.......36.....21...0.58
15................Rachael Bona............Minnesota....JR.....F.......36.....20...0.56
18tx2...........Kelly Babstock...........Quinnipiac....SR.....F.......36....19....0.53
47tx4...........Erin Ambrose.............Clarkson......SO.....D......36.....13....0.36

Assists Per Game:..........................................................GP.....A....A/GM
1...............Hannah Brandt.........Minnesota......SO....F......36....40....1.11
2tx2...........Erin Ambrose............Clarkson.........SO...D.....36.....35....0.97
.................Rachael Bona...........Minnesota.......JR....F.....36.....35....0.97
4...............Christine Bestland.....Mercyhurst......SR...F......33.....30....0.91
6...............Jillian Saulnier..........Cornell............JR....F......31.....26....0.84
7...............Kelly Babstock.........Quinnipiac........SR...F......36.....30....0.83
8tx2..........Jamie Lee Rattray......Clarkson.........SR....F......36.....29....0.81
22tx2..........Sarah Lefort.............Boston U.........SO....F......35.....23...0.66
38.............Brittany Ammerman....Wisconsin.......SR....F.......35.....20...0.57

Power Play Goals:........................................................GP....PPG/G..PPG
1.............Jamie Lee Rattray......Clarkson.........SR...F......36....0.25....9
2tx3.........Brittany Ammerman....Wisconsin.......SR...F......35....0.23....8
8tx9...........Erin Ambrose.............Clarkson........SO...D......36....0.17....6
17tx20.......Kelly Babstock..........Quinnipiac.......SR...F......36....0.14....5
37tx34.......Jillian Saulnier...........Cornell...........JR....F......31....0.13....4
................Christine Bestland.....Mercyhurst......SR...F......33....0.12....4
.................Sarah Lefort.............Boston U........ SO...F......35...0.11....4
................Hannah Brandt.........Minnesota.........SO....F......36..0.08.....3
................Rachael Bona...........Minnesota........JR.....F......36..0.08.....3

Power Play Points:..................................................G--A--T
Erin Ambrose........................................................ (6-14-20)
Hannah Brandt.......................................................(3-16-19)
Rachael Bona.........................................................(3-14-17)
Brittany Ammerman.................................................(8- 8-16)
Jamie Lee Rattray..................................................(9- 6-15)
Christine Bestland..................................................(4- 7-11)
Jillian Saulnier.......................................................(4- 7-11)
Sarah Lefort.........................................................(4- 6-10)
Kelly Babstock......................................................(5- 4- 9)

Short-Handed Goals:.....................................................GP....SHG/G..SHG
1............Christine Bestland.....Mercyhurst.......SR...F.......33....0.15......5
10tx17.....Jillian Saulnier...........Cornell.............JR....F.......31....0.06......2
..............Brittany Ammerman....Wisconsin.........SR...F.......35....0.06......2
27tx44....Jamie Lee Rattray......Clarkson............SR...F.......36....0.03......1
.............Rachael Bona............Minnesota.........JR....F.......36....0.03......1

Game-Winning Goals:....................................................GP......GWG
1........ Sarah Lefort............Boston University.SO...F.......35.......8
4t........Brittany Ammerman..Wisconsin............SR...F.......35.......6
6tx8.... Jamie Lee Rattray....Clarkson..............SR...F.......36.......5
14tx16..Jillian Saulnier..........Cornell................S.....F.......31.......4
............Christine Bestland...Mercyhurst..........SR....F.......33.......4
............Rachael Bona.........Minnesota............JR....F.......36.......4
............Hannah Brandt.......Minnesota...........SO....F.......36.......4
............Kelly Babstock.......Quinnipiac...........SR.....F.......36.......4
32tx39...Erin Ambrose.........Clarkson..............SO....D.......36.......3

Points Per Game (Defensemen):......................................GP...G- A- P.......P/GM
1........Erin Ambrose..........Clarkson.............SO.....D.......36..13-35-48.....1.33

 

[ARM]

Some interesting things that stood out to me were that, assuming the data is correct, neither Minny candidate has a power play goal.

Both Bona and Brandt have three PP goals. Minnesota uses two power play units that are equal, and depending on how the PK defends, they move the puck to the open player. You should really look at PP points if you want to see who is contributing in that way, because Brandt's role is to distribute on her PP, not to finish. Bona's role is to get the puck to the net, often creating rebounds that lead to goals. Both are key components in what is the nation's most effective power play, so I don't see that as a negative.

 

[DC78-82]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

Both Bona and Brandt have three PP goals. Minnesota uses two power play units that are equal, and depending on how the PK defends, they move the puck to the open player. You should really look at PP points if you want to see who is contributing in that way, because Brandt's role is to distribute on her PP, not to finish. Bona's role is to get the puck to the net, often creating rebounds that lead to goals. Both are key components in what is the nation's most effective power play, so I don't see that as a negative.

That's why I qualified that with "assuming the data is correct". It didn't seem right to me. I used chs.net because it was the quickest way to get all 9 skater's data, and I do have to get something else done today! (so says the pay check signatory}

 

[ARM]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

Just for comparison, here are the power play points for each from collegehockeystats.net:

Erin Ambrose (6-14-20)
Hannah Brandt (3-16-19)
Rachael Bona (3-14-17)
Brittany Ammerman (8- 8-16)
Jamie Lee Rattray (9- 6-15)
Christine Bestland (4- 7-11)
Jillian Saulnier (4- 7-11)
Sarah Lefort (4- 6-10)
Kelly Babstock (5- 4- 9)

 

[Trillium]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

I have seen various articles recently about specific players/games which talk about their number of blocked shots. Yet I have never actually seen these stats listed anywhere. Do they exist anywhere other than perhaps in a coach's private files?

 

[ARM]

I have seen various articles recently about specific players/games which talk about their number of blocked shots. Yet I have never actually seen these stats listed anywhere. Do they exist anywhere other than perhaps in a coach's private files?

I wonder about that as well. The home team records the official statistics, and in the press box in some rinks you'll hear, "18 shot, 17 blocked," while in another building it will be, "18 shot, 17 blocked by 3." If it isn't being captured live as it happens, then anything else coming from a team's video review would have to be considered unofficial, because it isn't done the same everywhere.

 

[DC78-82]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

Just for comparison, here are the power play points for each from collegehockeystats.net:

Erin Ambrose (6-14-20)
Hannah Brandt (3-16-19)
Rachael Bona (3-14-17)
Brittany Ammerman (8- 8-16)
Jamie Lee Rattray (9- 6-15)
Christine Bestland (4- 7-11)
Jillian Saulnier (4- 7-11)
Sarah Lefort (4- 6-10)
Kelly Babstock (5- 4- 9)

Thanks - agree on PP Points, and copied and pasted it into the list, and corrected the PPG list. i wonder how many other stats are inaccurate

 

[ARM]

Thanks - agree on PP Points, and copied and pasted it into the list, and corrected the PPG list. i wonder how many other stats are inaccurate

They aren't inaccurate so much as incomplete. Collegehockeystats.net just lists the leaders in the given category, so if somebody isn't shown, it only means that they rank behind those shown in that stat.

 

[Hux]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

I wonder about that as well. The home team records the official statistics, and in the press box in some rinks you'll hear, "18 shot, 17 blocked," while in another building it will be, "18 shot, 17 blocked by 3." If it isn't being captured live as it happens, then anything else coming from a team's video review would have to be considered unofficial, because it isn't done the same everywhere.

Yeah, the shot charts list who took the shot, but not who blocked the shot. Guess they need a shot blocker chart too.

 

[KTDC]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

I have seen various articles recently about specific players/games which talk about their number of blocked shots. Yet I have never actually seen these stats listed anywhere. Do they exist anywhere other than perhaps in a coach's private files?

Blocked Shots are in the Gophers Season stats, but they're hard to see because they are all the way on the right camouflaged by the maroon background.

Baylee Gillanders leads the Gophers by far with 71, 2nd is McMillan and Ramsey with 35.

A lot of the team's stats at the team's home website will show blocked shots on the far right hand side of the stat grid.

 

[DC78-82]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

Blocked Shots are in the Gophers Season stats, but they're hard to see because they are all the way on the right camouflaged by the maroon background.

Baylee Gillanders leads the Gophers by far with 71, 2nd is McMillan and Ramsey with 35.

A lot of the team's stats at the team's home website will show blocked shots on the far right hand side of the stat grid.

Hockey East has a category for blocked shots on their stat page.

 

[DedicatedFan]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

Congrats to the top 3 finalists announced today:

http://www.usahockey.com/news_article/show/357201?referrer_id=752796

I fully acknowledge my biased opinion in my desire for Hannah to win this award.

 

[vicb]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

Congrats to the top 3 finalists announced today:

http://www.usahockey.com/news_article/show/357201?referrer_id=752796

I fully acknowledge my biased opinion in my desire for Hannah to win this award.

And I with my biased opinion for Jamie Lee Rattray . Whoever wins is truly deserving and you won't get any (well maybe just a tiny bit ) argument from me if Hanna or Jillian win it.

 

[pokechecker]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

Hockey East has a category for blocked shots on their stat page.

WCHA started keeping track this year, or at least including it.

a stat of questionable value comparing across all players,
OK when comparing D to D or within a team
a player on the PK should have more than one not
and wouldn't you rather have a player who prevents a shot from being taken than one who does not?
also inferior teams often have a high number of blocked shots simply because they allow the other team to shoot more

 

[ARM]

...
and wouldn't you rather have a player who prevents a shot from being taken than one who does not?

I agree; it would be nice to nice to have stats like "disrupted rush with back pressure" or "retained possession in the first place" or "won one-on-one battle for the puck." Puck possession is huge, but outside of faceoffs isn't really tracked statistically.

 

[Eeyore]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

and wouldn't you rather have a player who prevents a shot from being taken than one who does not?

Yes, but I prefer that they do so in ways that aren't likely to lead to injuries. It's less of a factor at the women's D1 level but I prefer that the stars on my favorite NHL team not routinely block shots.

 

[Trillium]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

Congrats to the top 3 finalists announced today:

http://www.usahockey.com/news_article/show/357201?referrer_id=752796

Congratulations to all three deserving players of this honour.


However, I'm quite curious how mere participation in two of a teams' regularly scheduled league games which presumably would be obligatory activities for all team members, can remotely be viewed at the same time as credit-worthy "off-ice volunteer efforts", simply because those games happened to also be designated by the club to promote awareness of specific causes.

A clear example of resumé padding at it's finest.

 

[OnMAA]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

Yes, but I prefer that they do so in ways that aren't likely to lead to injuries. It's less of a factor at the women's D1 level but I prefer that the stars on my favorite NHL team not routinely block shots.

Observed star players like Toews on TC do these deeds in Sochi. It is part of a team commitment to Team D.

 

[dave1381]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

So in the end, it was just the top 3 per game scorers selected for the final three. I assume Brandt will win being the nation's #1 scorer on the nation's #1 team. That pretty much guarantees the Kazmaier.

 

[Eeyore]

Re: Patty Kazmaier 2014

Observed star players like Toews on TC do these deeds in Sochi. It is part of a team commitment to Team D.

I understand the reasoning; I just disagree with it. The cost to the Blackhawks if a shot breaks Toews' foot is higher than the value of a lot of shot blocks. I learned the lesson in a different sport, watching Fred Lynn constantly take himself out of the lineup by diving for every ball in center field.