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pairwise -- post jan 8th

Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

JimDahl said:
I'd say very, very likely still. Contrary to CHN's results, they look in better shape to me than BU (though both are very likely). I personally don't have the tools to guarantee at this point that there aren't some edge cases that exclude them, but we can be fairly confident that at worst they'll land near the top of the bubble, so it would take a really bad cutline to exclude them.
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And I assume my commentary on Michigan Tech is right? Broadmoor or bust is becoming more and more likely?
 
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Shirtless Guy said:
And I assume my commentary on Michigan Tech is right? Broadmoor or bust is becoming more and more likely?
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I can still get Tech in even if they lose to Mankato in the WCHA Championship. Actually, it's pretty easy: Just have all higher seeds win.
 
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ticapnews said:
I can still get Tech in even if they lose to Mankato in the WCHA Championship. Actually, it's pretty easy: Just have all higher seeds win.
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yeah, definitely rooting against UNO right now, cornell tomororw, UMD, Northeastern next weekend...then its possible, just seems like it won't go that way and UMD/Northeastern would stay in front because losing to UND/SCSU or Providence/BC in the title hurts those 2 less than MTU losing to MSU
 
Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

I can't get Boston College to #1 anymore. Tonight killed their RPI. The race for #1 is down to four teams: Quinnipiac, North Dakota, St Cloud, Providence
 
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How locked in is SCSU as a 1 seed? Or in other words, can people find ways to make them a 2 seed and how likely is it?
 
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SCSU Euro said:
How locked in is SCSU as a 1 seed? Or in other words, can people find ways to make them a 2 seed and how likely is it?
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It appears Quinnipiac, St Cloud and North Dakota are locked in as regional #1 seeds. Any of them (plus Providence) can finish #1 overall. The remaining regional #1 seed appears to be between Providence, Boston College and Denver. I cannot get Lowell or Michigan to #4 overall. I have not tried Harvard, but I cannot envision them jumping all the way to fourth.

Because both UND and SCSU are driving distance to St Paul and because either Providence or Boston College can finish ahead of Quinnipiac, no one has clinched a location yet - and likely won't until next Saturday night.
 
Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

The Omaha-Denver game is about to start the second OT. I had planned updates after the game ended but I am about to fall asleep in my chair so I'm going to bed. I will have updates in the morning.
 
Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

OK, I lied.

If all higher seeds win out:
North Dakota (Auto Qualifier)
Quinnipiac (Auto Qualifier)
St. Cloud State
Boston College (Auto Qualifier)
-
Providence
Denver
Boston University
Michigan
-
UMass Lowell
Yale
Harvard
Notre Dame
-
Michigan Tech (Auto Qualifier)
Northeastern
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Cornell
Minnesota Duluth
Minnesota (Auto Qualifier)
Omaha
Robert Morris (Auto Qualifier)


If all higher seeds win but Michigan wins #B1G
North Dakota (Auto Qualifier)
Quinnipiac (Auto Qualifier)
Boston College (Auto Qualifier)
St. Cloud State
-
Providence
Denver
Michigan (Auto Qualifier)
Boston University

UMass Lowell
Yale
Harvard
Notre Dame

Michigan Tech (Auto Qualifier)
Northeastern
Cornell
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Minnesota Duluth
Robert Morris (Auto Qualifier)
 
Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

I can still get Yale, Notre Dame and Harvard out. Lowell and Michigan seem to be safe.

In the tournament:
Boston College
Boston University
Denver
Massachusetts-Lowell
Michigan
North Dakota
Providence
Quinnipiac
St Cloud

Eliminated:
Alabama-Huntsville
Alaska
Alaska-Anchorage
American International
Arizona State
Brown
Canisius
Clarkson
Colgate
Colorado College
Connecticut
Holy Cross
Maine
Massachusetts
Mercyhurst
Merrimack
Miami
Nebraska-Omaha
New Hampshire
Niagara
Northern Michigan
Princeton
Rensselaer
Sacred Heart
Union
Western Michigan

Need AQ:
Air Force
Army
Bemidji State
Bentley
Bowling Green
Dartmouth
Ferris State
Lake Superior
Michigan State
Minnesota
Minnesota State
Ohio State
RIT
Robert Morris
St. Lawrence
Vermont
Wisconsin

Eliminated with loss:
Bemidji State
Bentley
Bowling Green
Cornell
Lake Superior
Minnesota State
Robert Morris
Vermont
 
Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

1 North Dakota
2 Quinnipiac
3 St. Cloud State
4 Providence
5 Boston College
6 Denver
7 Michigan
8 Mass.-Lowell
9 Boston University
10 Yale
11 Harvard
12 Notre Dame
13 Minnesota-Duluth
14 Northeastern -out
15 Michigan Tech (AUTO)
16 Cornell -out
17 Nebraska-Omaha
18 Minnesota (AUTO)
19 St. Lawrence
20 Dartmouth
21 Robert Morris (AUTO)
 
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Many thanks to Jimmy Connelly for cluing me in on this scenario:
Vermont > Northeastern in Hockey East Championship + No upset AQ winners = 7 Hockey East teams in the tournament. Further, the teams would be ranked such that first round intra-conference games are not required.

St Paul: 1 North Dakota v Vermont, Boston U v Harvard
Albany: 4 Providence v Michigan Tech, Boston C v Yale
Cincinnati: 3 St Cloud v Northeastern, Denver v Notre Dame
Worcester: 2 Quinnipiac v Robert Morris, Michigan v Lowell

This also works in certain scenarios where Vermont defeats Lowell in the final.
 
Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

Not having Duluth in is a crime, because out of all these teams, they have played the best hockey the last 6 weeks.
I'm sure there is a scenario they don't make it but I can't find it.
 
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ticapnews said:
Many thanks to Jimmy Connelly for cluing me in on this scenario:
Vermont > Northeastern in Hockey East Championship + No upset AQ winners = 7 Hockey East teams in the tournament. Further, the teams would be ranked such that first round intra-conference games are not required.

St Paul: 1 North Dakota v Vermont, Boston U v Harvard
Albany: 4 Providence v Michigan Tech, Boston C v Yale
Cincinnati: 3 St Cloud v Northeastern, Denver v Notre Dame
Worcester: 2 Quinnipiac v Robert Morris, Michigan v Lowell

This also works in certain scenarios where Vermont defeats Lowell in the final.
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Why do you have Northeastern in and not Duluth? Duluth has higher Pairwise and RPI and are still in their conference tourney just like northeastern so how would they jump up?
 
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