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Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

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Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

many thanks!!!! we will try and crunch some more numbers...

Also, I believe to keep the Mk and DU compares, in the WCHA, you need, ND, Mk in the first Round: Minn, SC in Round 2, and Minn to win.

AK this close: .0001 to RM in the pairs:
AH:Ni over Ct in the final
EC: Br and Un in semi, Un and Qn in F and 3rd
HE:BC over Pv in the final
CC: Nt over Mi in the final
WC: ND, MK; Minn, SC; Minn

Leaves AK and RPI tied in the PWR, with RPI winning the tb both ways. In this case, the RPIs are AK: .5057, RM .5058, StL .5056. I can't find a way to lower RM's RPI without raising StL's. Can anyone else help out poor AK-F
 
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Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

Niagara as the 1-seed in Manchester

Atlantic Hockey
Semifinal #2: Connecticut defeats Mercyhurst
Semifinal #1: Niagara defeats Canisius
Championship game: Niagara defeats Connecticut
CCHA
Semifinal #2: Notre Dame defeats Ohio State
Semifinal #1: Miami defeats Michigan
Championship game: Miami defeats Notre Dame
ECAC
Semifinal #2: Yale defeats Union
Semifinal #1: Quinnipiac defeats Brown
Championship game: Quinnipiac defeats Yale
Consolation game: Union defeats Brown
Hockey East
Semifinal #2: Boston University defeats Boston College
Semifinal #1: Providence defeats Massachusetts-Lowell
Championship game: Providence defeats Boston University
WCHA
Play-in #2: North Dakota defeats Colorado College
Play-in #1: Wisconsin defeats Minnesota State
Semifinal #2: Minnesota defeats North Dakota
Semifinal #1: St. Cloud State defeats Wisconsin
Championship game: St. Cloud State defeats Minnesota


Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-predictor/#ixzz2NrUT3dgP

Interesting in that Patman's odds for Niagara getting in as a number 1 equals their odds for not making the tournament at all. Is this some kind of mathematical curve?
 
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Interesting in that Patman's odds for Niagara getting in as a number 1 equals their odds for not making the tournament at all. Is this some kind of mathematical curve?

Just the luck of it I suppose.

10,000 monte carlo iterations (MOE=0.5%), and I'll stop there... I could run to 100,000. It'd take about two hours, but I'm going to bed and Jim Dahl will have it in the morning for all 2^17*3 scenarios.

Code:
   NAME   NCAA     S1     S2     S3     S4   CONF  ATLRG    TUC
1    AA 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
2    AF 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
3    AH 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
4    AI 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
5    Ak 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000
6    Ar 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
7    BC 1.0000 0.3563 0.6139 0.0298 0.0000 0.2535 0.7465 1.0000
8    BG 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
9    Bn 0.2587 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.2587 0.2587 0.0000 1.0000
10   BS 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
11   BU 0.2543 0.0000 0.0000 0.0040 0.2503 0.2460 0.0083 1.0000
12   By 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
13   Ca 0.2453 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.2453 0.2453 0.0000 0.0000
14   CC 0.1279 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.1279 0.1279 0.0000 1.0000
15   Cg 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
16   Ck 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
17   Cr 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000
18   Ct 0.2543 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.2543 0.2543 0.0000 0.5022
19   Da 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000
20   DU 0.9773 0.0000 0.0041 0.8367 0.1365 0.0000 0.9773 1.0000
21   FS 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000
22   Ha 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
23   HC 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000
24   LS 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
25   MA 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
26   MD 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
27   Me 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
28   Mh 0.2478 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.2478 0.2478 0.0000 0.0000
29   Mi 0.2453 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.2453 0.2453 0.0000 0.5148
30   Mk 0.9962 0.1015 0.2394 0.6464 0.0089 0.1217 0.8745 1.0000
31   ML 1.0000 0.2661 0.6978 0.0361 0.0000 0.2524 0.7476 1.0000
32   Mm 1.0000 0.8377 0.1623 0.0000 0.0000 0.2536 0.7464 1.0000
33   Mn 1.0000 1.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.2531 0.7469 1.0000
34   Mr 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
35   MS 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
36   MT 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
37   ND 1.0000 0.0849 0.6400 0.2751 0.0000 0.1219 0.8781 1.0000
38   NE 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
39   NH 1.0000 0.0000 0.5034 0.4966 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000 1.0000
40   Ni 0.9598 0.0399 0.2750 0.4788 0.1661 0.2526 0.7072 1.0000
41   NM 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
42   NO 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000
43   Nt 0.8128 0.1118 0.0861 0.4353 0.1796 0.2502 0.5626 1.0000
44   OS 0.2509 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.2509 0.2509 0.0000 1.0000
45   Pn 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
46   PS 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
47   Pv 0.2485 0.0000 0.0000 0.0035 0.2450 0.2481 0.0004 1.0000
48   Qn 1.0000 1.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.2420 0.7580 1.0000
49   RM 0.0071 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0071 0.0000 0.0071 1.0000
50   RP 0.0837 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0837 0.0000 0.0837 1.0000
51   RT 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
52   SC 0.9423 0.0491 0.2546 0.4183 0.2203 0.2495 0.6928 1.0000
53   SH 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
54   SL 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000
55   Un 0.4168 0.0000 0.0000 0.1122 0.3046 0.2546 0.1622 1.0000
56   Vt 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
57   Wi 0.1341 0.0000 0.0000 0.0349 0.0992 0.1259 0.0082 1.0000
58   WM 0.5656 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.5656 0.0000 0.5656 1.0000
59   Ya 0.9713 0.1527 0.5234 0.1923 0.1029 0.2447 0.7266 1.0000
 
Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

All the different scenarios I run have Denver in at 11th or 12th so a 3 seed. Even though the back to back loses against CC were very hard to shallow the rest can't hurt.
 
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Quite a list Patman,

Several interesting things to me:
#1 is about UNH. Locked into being a 2 or a 3. As per the earlier discussion with Priceless, I would say that this means that UNH hosting will not affect which #1 goes where. The worst possibility for that would be in they ended up 8th.... But even then I don't think the committee would move any other #1s to avoid a 4, 8, x, x seed combo there.

#2 is about who has clinched: QU, BC, Lowell, UNH, Miami, NoDak, and Minny. All other teams apparently have an off chance at being out.

#3 is about teams no longer playing, but still eligible for the NCAAs. DU and WMU specifically. DU has high odds yet. WMU better than half, and I would guess that many of the out-runs for WMU had Conf Tourn upsets.
 
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Also, I believe to keep the Mk and DU compares, in the WCHA, you need, ND, Mk in the first Round: Minn, SC in Round 2, and Minn to win.

AK this close: .0001 to RM in the pairs:
AH:Ni over Ct in the final
EC: Br and Un in semi, Un and Qn in F and 3rd
HE:BC over Pv in the final
CC: Nt over Mi in the final
WC: ND, MK; Minn, SC; Minn

Leaves AK and RPI tied in the PWR, with RPI winning the tb both ways. In this case, the RPIs are AK: .5057, RM .5058, StL .5056. I can't find a way to lower RM's RPI without raising StL's. Can anyone else help out poor AK-F

Your Picks
Atlantic Hockey
Semifinal #2: Connecticut defeats Mercyhurst
Semifinal #1: Niagara defeats Canisius
Championship game: Niagara defeats Connecticut
CCHA
Semifinal #2: Notre Dame defeats Ohio State
Semifinal #1: Miami defeats Michigan
Championship game: Notre Dame defeats Miami
ECAC
Semifinal #2: Union defeats Yale
Semifinal #1: Quinnipiac defeats Brown
Championship game: Union defeats Quinnipiac
Consolation game: Yale defeats Brown
Hockey East
Semifinal #2: Boston College defeats Boston University
Semifinal #1: Providence defeats Massachusetts-Lowell
Championship game: Boston College defeats Providence
WCHA
Play-in #2: North Dakota defeats Colorado College
Play-in #1: Wisconsin defeats Minnesota State
Semifinal #2: Minnesota defeats North Dakota
Semifinal #1: St. Cloud State defeats Wisconsin
Championship game: Minnesota defeats St. Cloud State

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-predictor/#ixzz2Nrj9va7R

Keys: No autobids, CT over Mercy, Notre Dame and Union win conference titles
 
Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

Just the luck of it I suppose.

10,000 monte carlo iterations (MOE=0.5%), and I'll stop there... I could run to 100,000. It'd take about two hours, but I'm going to bed and Jim Dahl will have it in the morning for all 2^17*3 scenarios.

Code:
   NAME   NCAA     S1     S2     S3     S4   CONF  ATLRG    TUC
43   Nt 0.8128 0.1118 0.0861 0.4353 0.1796 0.2502 0.5626 1.0000
Wow. I thought it would be closer to 100%
 
Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

Your Picks
Atlantic Hockey
Semifinal #2: Connecticut defeats Mercyhurst
Semifinal #1: Niagara defeats Canisius
Championship game: Niagara defeats Connecticut
CCHA
Semifinal #2: Notre Dame defeats Ohio State
Semifinal #1: Miami defeats Michigan
Championship game: Notre Dame defeats Miami
ECAC
Semifinal #2: Union defeats Yale
Semifinal #1: Quinnipiac defeats Brown
Championship game: Union defeats Quinnipiac
Consolation game: Yale defeats Brown
Hockey East
Semifinal #2: Boston College defeats Boston University
Semifinal #1: Providence defeats Massachusetts-Lowell
Championship game: Boston College defeats Providence
WCHA
Play-in #2: North Dakota defeats Colorado College
Play-in #1: Wisconsin defeats Minnesota State
Semifinal #2: Minnesota defeats North Dakota
Semifinal #1: St. Cloud State defeats Wisconsin
Championship game: Minnesota defeats St. Cloud State

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-predictor/#ixzz2Nrj9va7R

Keys: No autobids, CT over Mercy, Notre Dame and Union win conference titles

Thanks PL. I missed that Michigan could lose to Miami and stay TUC (.5000 - oh so close).
And, really, it's all key. The complete list of possibilities is:

AK needs:
AH: Nia over Ct in finals
CC: Nt over Mm in finals
EC: Un is champ, QU has a win (tie in conso game not enough)
HE: BC to win over Pv in finals
WC: Mk, CC lose Thurs(has to be Thurs to protect the Mk and DU compares), UW not champion.

Obviously, that is a rare combo. By my count, it's 13 games that have to fall one way, and then also the Qn split (a 3/4 chance), and Wisco losing one of 2 (a 3/4 chance). So, the chance is: (1/2)^13*(3/4)^2 of this happening. That's about 1/14,000. So, it makes sense that Patman didn't see it.
 
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I am attempting to list odds according to Patman, in order of the present PWR. My first time to try a "code". I adjusted the ones of these that are obviously needing the auto-bid, to show that.
Code:
QU		100
Minn		100
Miami		100
BC		100
Yale		97.1
Lowell		100
UND		100
UNH		100
NoDame          81.3
Mankato	        99.6
Niagara	        96.0
SCSU		94.2
DU		97.8
WMU		56.6
Un		41.7
Providence	25.0(auto)
Wis		13.4(auto{3games} +  ~.9)
BU		25.8(auto +  ~.8)
RPI		8.4
AK		~0 but not quite
RM		0.7
Michigan	25.0(auto)
Mercyhurst	25.0(auto)
Ohio State	25.0(auto)
U-Conn	        25.0(auto)
Canisius	25.0(auto)
Brown		25.0(auto)
ColoColl	12.5(auto – 3 games)

Some analysis:
The RPI gap between Denver and WMU, which is clearly the big jump here: DU = .5351, WMU=.5295. That's a big jump, so it's predictable that there would be a clear gap here.

There is a smaller gap to Union at .5264. At this point (15th) there is heightened danger of Auto Bids. And, finally, Wisco-RPI and that is 4 teams, all very close.

NoDame looks like an outlier here. We remember that many of their compares have been volatile recently. Particularly, NoDame is vulnerable to Mich falling away from TUC status.

Of the bubble teams, RPI actually has the best chance at an at-large. Wisco, RPI, and barely Fairbanks have <1% chance of at-large.
 
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I am attempting to list odds according to Patman, in order of the present PWR. My first time to try a "code". I adjusted the ones of these that are obviously needing the auto-bid, to show that.
Code:
QU		100
Minn		100
Miami		100
BC		100
Yale		97.1
Lowell		100
UND		100
UNH		100
NoDame          81.3
Mankato	        99.6
Niagara	        96.0
SCSU		94.2
DU		97.8
WMU		56.6
Un		41.7
Providence	25.0(auto)
Wis		13.4(auto{3games} +  ~.9)
BU		25.8(auto +  ~.8)
RPI		8.4
AK		~0 but not quite
RM		0.7
Michigan	25.0(auto)
Mercyhurst	25.0(auto)
Ohio State	25.0(auto)
U-Conn	        25.0(auto)
Canisius	25.0(auto)
Brown		25.0(auto)
ColoColl	12.5(auto – 3 games)

Thanks for all the info, and I hate to waste your time, but what's the .4 scenario where Mankato misses out?
 
Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

Thanks for all the info, and I hate to waste your time, but what's the .4 scenario where Mankato misses out?

I am sure this is not all, but here is one:
Your Picks
Atlantic Hockey
Semifinal #2: Connecticut defeats Mercyhurst
Semifinal #1: Niagara defeats Canisius
Championship game: Connecticut defeats Niagara
CCHA
Semifinal #2: Notre Dame defeats Ohio State
Semifinal #1: Michigan defeats Miami
Championship game: Michigan defeats Notre Dame
ECAC
Semifinal #2: Union defeats Yale
Semifinal #1: Brown defeats Quinnipiac
Championship game: Brown defeats Union
Consolation game: Yale defeats Quinnipiac
Hockey East
Semifinal #2: Boston University defeats Boston College
Semifinal #1: Providence defeats Massachusetts-Lowell
Championship game: Providence defeats Boston University
WCHA
Play-in #2: Colorado College defeats North Dakota
Play-in #1: Wisconsin defeats Minnesota State
Semifinal #2: Colorado College defeats Minnesota
Semifinal #1: St. Cloud State defeats Wisconsin
Championship game: Colorado College defeats St. Cloud State


Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-predictor/#ixzz2Ns48QpxG

5 upsets, and just the right mix of other results so Mankato ends up 12th.

And, really, Patman did all the work for those odds. He wrote his own program to do the calculations and to do the Monte Carlos
 
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I am looking hard. I am running up against a situation where AK loses to compare to Br, Da, Cr and RM by slight amounts in the RPI - like .0010, and I can't find a way to get them over the hump. It you want to try, I know this much - you need Michigan to win the CCHA.

If you saw Michigan beat Western Michigan Saturday night, you wouldn't expect anyone to beat them.
 
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Amazing. I can get Yale as high as #3 and as low as out from even a single autobid. So they'll be somewhere between 3 and out.

By the way, to answer my own question above I found a way to get Yale out with a consolation loss to QPac, but it requires at least 3 autobids, because I can't seem to get them lower than 14.
 
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My first run is very close to that posted by PatMan, summarized by Numbers above. This is supposed to be comprehensive, but errors are always a possibility. More detail later.

Quinnipiac #1 100% invite
Minnesota #2 100% invite
Miami #3-8 100% invite
Boston College #3-12 100% invite
Yale #3-18 96.9% invite
Mass.-Lowell #3-11 100% invite
North Dakota #3-12 100% invite
New Hampshire #5-13 100% invite
Notre Dame #3-19 81.8% invite
Mankato #3-14 99.7% invite
Niagara #4-15 95.9% invite
St Cloud #3-15 94.1% invite
Denver #7-15 98% invite
Western Michigan #13-18 56.5% invite
Union #8-22 41.5% invite
Wisconsin #10-23 13.3% invite
Providence #13-26 25.1% invite
Boston University #12-23 25.8% invite
Rensselaer #13-21 8.2% invite
Alaska #16-27 <.01% invite (43 of 393216 scenarios)
Cornell #18-27 No invites
Brown #16-29 Needs to win for invite
Dartmouth #18-25 No invites
Robert Morris #14-27 .7% invite
Colorado College #18-32 Needs to win for invite
Ohio State #17-32 Needs to win for invite
Michigan #21-NonTUC Needs to win for invite
Connecticut #21-NonTUC Needs to win for invite
Canisius NonTUC Needs to win for invite
Mercyhurst #32-NonTUC Needs to win for invite

Anyone see anything outside those ranges?
 
Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

My first run is very close to that posted by PatMan, summarized by Numbers above. This is supposed to be comprehensive, but errors are always a possibility. More detail later.

Quinnipiac #1 100% invite
Minnesota #2 100% invite
Miami #3-8 100% invite
Boston College #3-12 100% invite
Yale #3-18 96.9% invite
Mass.-Lowell #3-11 100% invite
North Dakota #3-12 100% invite
New Hampshire #5-13 100% invite
Notre Dame #3-19 81.8% invite
Mankato #3-14 99.7% invite
Niagara #4-15 95.9% invite
St Cloud #3-15 94.1% invite
Denver #7-15 98% invite
Western Michigan #13-18 56.5% invite
Union #8-22 41.5% invite
Wisconsin #10-23 13.3% invite
Providence #13-26 25.1% invite
Boston University #12-23 25.8% invite
Rensselaer #13-21 8.2% invite
Alaska #16-27 <.01% invite (43 of 393216 scenarios)
Cornell #18-27 No invites
Brown #16-29 Needs to win for invite
Dartmouth #18-25 No invites
Robert Morris #14-27 .7% invite
Colorado College #18-32 Needs to win for invite
Ohio State #17-32 Needs to win for invite
Michigan #21-NonTUC Needs to win for invite
Connecticut #21-NonTUC Needs to win for invite
Canisius NonTUC Needs to win for invite
Mercyhurst #32-NonTUC Needs to win for invite

Anyone see anything outside those ranges?

Thanks Jim. Very cool. Do you have idea under what circumstances UNH ends up #13?
 
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Thanks Jim. Very cool. Do you have idea under what circumstances UNH ends up #13?

It's even rarer than Alaska making the tournament, I'm seeing it in 4 possible outcomes. This one requires a very particular tie in the 3rd place game to knock Brown out of being a TUC, while still keeping Yale ahead of UNH: http://goo.gl/Y0QFl
 
My first run is very close to that posted by PatMan, summarized by Numbers above. This is supposed to be comprehensive, but errors are always a possibility. More detail later.

Quinnipiac #1 100% invite
Minnesota #2 100% invite
Miami #3-8 100% invite
Boston College #3-12 100% invite
Yale #3-18 96.9% invite
Mass.-Lowell #3-11 100% invite
North Dakota #3-12 100% invite
New Hampshire #5-13 100% invite
Notre Dame #3-19 81.8% invite
Mankato #3-14 99.7% invite
Niagara #4-15 95.9% invite
St Cloud #3-15 94.1% invite
Denver #7-15 98% invite
Western Michigan #13-18 56.5% invite
Union #8-22 41.5% invite
Wisconsin #10-23 13.3% invite
Providence #13-26 25.1% invite
Boston University #12-23 25.8% invite
Rensselaer #13-21 8.2% invite
Alaska #16-27 <.01% invite (43 of 393216 scenarios)
Cornell #18-27 No invites
Brown #16-29 Needs to win for invite
Dartmouth #18-25 No invites
Robert Morris #14-27 .7% invite
Colorado College #18-32 Needs to win for invite
Ohio State #17-32 Needs to win for invite
Michigan #21-NonTUC Needs to win for invite
Connecticut #21-NonTUC Needs to win for invite
Canisius NonTUC Needs to win for invite
Mercyhurst #32-NonTUC Needs to win for invite

Anyone see anything outside those ranges?

I assume your values are krach weighted... That they are close doesn't surprise me per se.

I think if I were to do what you did it would take about 10 hours... Divide that through for each additional processor to run on.
 
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Do all 18.2% of the possible scenarios leaving Notre Dame at home involve UM losing to Miami and falling out of TUC consideration? All the scenarios I run eliminating ND seem to involve that at the least.
 
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