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Oswego State Laker Hockey 2012-13...Part 2..Because Norwich's thread didn't close 1st
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The Real Georgia Peach
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Re: Oswego State Laker Hockey 2012-13...Part 2..Because Norwich's thread didn't close
Of course, they could fly but they would only be reimbursed for the ground travel rate by the NCAA,...your call.
Of course, they could fly but they would only be reimbursed for the ground travel rate by the NCAA,...your call.
Re: Oswego State Laker Hockey 2012-13...Part 2..Because Norwich's thread didn't close
Somewhere else it was stated "200 or 15% which ever is greater."I thought it was 20%. But if you just want 15, that's okay with us.
JimmyOzKing
Jimmy King
Re: Oswego State Laker Hockey 2012-13...Part 2..Because Norwich's thread didn't close
I've heard that too. If thats the case, we'd have 200 of the 500 seats available. If we could get that many people there, that would be awesome for our boys to have almost 1/3 (assuming they fit about...100 people standing room) of the crowd in their support.
Laker Ranger
Lakers Maritime Academy Grad
Re: Oswego State Laker Hockey 2012-13...Part 2..Because Norwich's thread didn't close
Oz ends up getting the bye, but the CC ice is now abandoned for the season...its somewhat of a shame that the home crowd couldn't see one more game there this season.
As for Adrian, this tilt features the top two goal scoring teams in the nation. What a draw for the team advancing to Placid to cut their teeth on. I do hope a few Lakers faithful make it out there, and give the boys a proper cheer or two.
Oz ends up getting the bye, but the CC ice is now abandoned for the season...its somewhat of a shame that the home crowd couldn't see one more game there this season.
As for Adrian, this tilt features the top two goal scoring teams in the nation. What a draw for the team advancing to Placid to cut their teeth on. I do hope a few Lakers faithful make it out there, and give the boys a proper cheer or two.
Re: Oswego State Laker Hockey 2012-13...Part 2..Because Norwich's thread didn't close
Of course it also said that the NCAA could change these numbers. If that is the case, all further discussions on this topic must be moved to this thread.
Laker Ranger
Lakers Maritime Academy Grad
Re: Oswego State Laker Hockey 2012-13...Part 2..Because Norwich's thread didn't close
We hail from every corner of the US, and like a great Green and Gold wave, descend upon Adrian Michi-heck, I'll be impressed if the Lakers fill all 200.
We hail from every corner of the US, and like a great Green and Gold wave, descend upon Adrian Michi-heck, I'll be impressed if the Lakers fill all 200.
Re: Oswego State Laker Hockey 2012-13...Part 2..Because Norwich's thread didn't close
What I recall from the Elmira-Adrian game of a couple of years ago is that the Elmira fans were consistently positive in their reviews of the hospitality that they were accorded.
What I recall from the Elmira-Adrian game of a couple of years ago is that the Elmira fans were consistently positive in their reviews of the hospitality that they were accorded.
Transplanted Tiger Fan
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Re: Oswego State Laker Hockey 2012-13...Part 2..Because Norwich's thread didn't close
), but the experience was awesome. Met a lot of great people (bayliner2555, bigmrg74, Northernlite, Lost in Michigan, and others I probably owe an apology to for not remembering/listing at this time!). Pre-game social at Frickers was a lot of fun.
We stayed just outside of Toledo right near the I-75/I-90 interchange, mainly to “get a jump” on the ride home. This worked-out well... checked-in on the way to the game, proceeded-on to the rink, back to the hotel, and headed home the next day. Obviously, with Toledo being a relatively-high populated area in the region, there are plenty of hotel and restaurant options. As I recall, a bit over an hour to the rink, but an easy drive... we went west on I-90 to exit 39, then headed-north. This itinerary did not leave must time to do other things, but we did manage to drown our sorrows at a BWW within walking distance of the hotel.
Arrington is a nice facility, and as I understand there have been improvements since we were there. If there were an eastern rink to compare it to, I would equate it to Skidmore or (gasp) Hobart in likeness for the way it is set-up, with seating opposite the team benches and entrance/lobby to the ‘left’ of the seats, but with seats as opposed to metal bleachers (and with heat).
Without question, the highlight of our trip was the Adrian fanbase... a class group of hockey fans. Safe travels, and enjoy.
Yes, very positive. The outcome of the game stunk (
), but the experience was awesome. Met a lot of great people (bayliner2555, bigmrg74, Northernlite, Lost in Michigan, and others I probably owe an apology to for not remembering/listing at this time!). Pre-game social at Frickers was a lot of fun.We stayed just outside of Toledo right near the I-75/I-90 interchange, mainly to “get a jump” on the ride home. This worked-out well... checked-in on the way to the game, proceeded-on to the rink, back to the hotel, and headed home the next day. Obviously, with Toledo being a relatively-high populated area in the region, there are plenty of hotel and restaurant options. As I recall, a bit over an hour to the rink, but an easy drive... we went west on I-90 to exit 39, then headed-north. This itinerary did not leave must time to do other things, but we did manage to drown our sorrows at a BWW within walking distance of the hotel.
Arrington is a nice facility, and as I understand there have been improvements since we were there. If there were an eastern rink to compare it to, I would equate it to Skidmore or (gasp) Hobart in likeness for the way it is set-up, with seating opposite the team benches and entrance/lobby to the ‘left’ of the seats, but with seats as opposed to metal bleachers (and with heat).
Without question, the highlight of our trip was the Adrian fanbase... a class group of hockey fans. Safe travels, and enjoy.
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norm1909
Larry Normandin
Re: Oswego State Laker Hockey 2012-13...Part 2..Because Norwich's thread didn't close
This is the NC$$ Flight Decision maker > 500 fly anything else you go by bus. That being said, it allows the NC$$ to award a pool C bid (and assign bracket pairing - as well it appears tilting the ranking positions) despite its impact on bracket integrity. For Oswego and Adrian fans, this works to your advantage.
This is the NC$$ Flight Decision maker > 500 fly anything else you go by bus. That being said, it allows the NC$$ to award a pool C bid (and assign bracket pairing - as well it appears tilting the ranking positions) despite its impact on bracket integrity. For Oswego and Adrian fans, this works to your advantage.
ColdInRomney
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Re: Oswego State Laker Hockey 2012-13...Part 2..Because Norwich's thread didn't close
So, just so I understand- since "The Committee" has Oswego traveling to Adrian, this means they had Adrian ranked higher (despite what the two "unofficial" polls have had them ranked all year)? What do you think they based that on?
[Edit: I just read all the other threads----- "nevermind"..]
I remember when Adrian came to Oswego in 2010, that was when Adrian wanted to prove themselves against "eastern" hockey. They came in playing an overly physical game compared to what we usually see (the refs agreed- 55 minutes in penalties: roughing, contact to the head, crosschecking, hitting from behind- game misconduct, hitting after the whistle, etc, etc.). 5-2 Oswego. I look forward to this rematch being a clean game determined by hockey skills (I'm blanking out the first rematch in 2011...
).
So, just so I understand- since "The Committee" has Oswego traveling to Adrian, this means they had Adrian ranked higher (despite what the two "unofficial" polls have had them ranked all year)? What do you think they based that on?
[Edit: I just read all the other threads----- "nevermind"..]
I remember when Adrian came to Oswego in 2010, that was when Adrian wanted to prove themselves against "eastern" hockey. They came in playing an overly physical game compared to what we usually see (the refs agreed- 55 minutes in penalties: roughing, contact to the head, crosschecking, hitting from behind- game misconduct, hitting after the whistle, etc, etc.). 5-2 Oswego. I look forward to this rematch being a clean game determined by hockey skills (I'm blanking out the first rematch in 2011...
).
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Re: Oswego State Laker Hockey 2012-13...Part 2..Because Norwich's thread didn't close
Kinda unfair to blame the current batch of players with the failings of players from 10 years ago. If you look at the current senior class, with 4 regular season titles, and two SUNYAC championships, historically they're not doing too bad. Making it into the FF 3 years in a row (possibly 4 years in a row now) is no easy accomplishment.
Let's face it, over the past 4 years, the Oswego State Lakers have accomplished more than the Plattsburgh Cardinals. I'm not saying the Cards are bad, or that the Lakers are vastly superior. I'm just saying that these past 4 years have been some of the best in Oswego's history, and the reputation Oswego has for being unable to finish is being proved unfounded at least for this class.
Just an easy comparison for the past 4 years:
Regular season titles: Oswego - 4 Plattsburgh - 0
SUNYAC Championships: Oswego - 2 Plattsburgh - 2 TIE
NCAA tournament appearances: Oswego - 4 Plattsburgh - 3
Frozen Four Appearances: Oswego - 3(maybe 4) Plattsburgh - 1
D3 Championship Appearances: Oswego - 1 (maybe 2) Plattsburgh - 0
Record between two teams: Oswego 7 - 2 - 1 Plattsburgh 2 - 7 - 1
If we measure by decades, then all teams are blown away by Middlebury, but when you just consider the 4 years that this class has played in, the accomplishments for Oswego are enormous. Oswego is easily the most accomplished team in the SUNYAC over the past 4 years. Any unbiased look at the statistics will tell you that.
Kinda unfair to blame the current batch of players with the failings of players from 10 years ago. If you look at the current senior class, with 4 regular season titles, and two SUNYAC championships, historically they're not doing too bad. Making it into the FF 3 years in a row (possibly 4 years in a row now) is no easy accomplishment.
Let's face it, over the past 4 years, the Oswego State Lakers have accomplished more than the Plattsburgh Cardinals. I'm not saying the Cards are bad, or that the Lakers are vastly superior. I'm just saying that these past 4 years have been some of the best in Oswego's history, and the reputation Oswego has for being unable to finish is being proved unfounded at least for this class.
Just an easy comparison for the past 4 years:
Regular season titles: Oswego - 4 Plattsburgh - 0
SUNYAC Championships: Oswego - 2 Plattsburgh - 2 TIE
NCAA tournament appearances: Oswego - 4 Plattsburgh - 3
Frozen Four Appearances: Oswego - 3(maybe 4) Plattsburgh - 1
D3 Championship Appearances: Oswego - 1 (maybe 2) Plattsburgh - 0
Record between two teams: Oswego 7 - 2 - 1 Plattsburgh 2 - 7 - 1
If we measure by decades, then all teams are blown away by Middlebury, but when you just consider the 4 years that this class has played in, the accomplishments for Oswego are enormous. Oswego is easily the most accomplished team in the SUNYAC over the past 4 years. Any unbiased look at the statistics will tell you that.
norm1909
Larry Normandin
Re: Oswego State Laker Hockey 2012-13...Part 2..Because Norwich's thread didn't close
The "big" problem is, the 2 losses where THIS year - the year of the Seniors - they had better keep small heads and play smart - They can do it - they can win it and IMO, if they lose, it will be because they played their B game.
The "big" problem is, the 2 losses where THIS year - the year of the Seniors - they had better keep small heads and play smart - They can do it - they can win it and IMO, if they lose, it will be because they played their B game.
Re: Oswego State Laker Hockey 2012-13...Part 2..Because Norwich's thread didn't close
So now losses in one year somehow count more than losses in another year? I think a little bit of bias comes into play here. No one was expecting Oswego to have a perfect season and ride on a cloud of glory to the d3 championship and claim the trophy without breaking a sweat. No one was expecting Oswego to blow out all their opponents by 5 goals every single game.
I'm getting the feeling that no matter what Oswego accomplishes you'll say that they failed because they didn't reach some other nearly impossible goal. I apologize if that's not what you intended, but that's how it came across to me.
Sure, Oswego lost a couple regular season games to Plattsburgh, but they won the game that mattered. And in that game they outscored Plattsburgh 4 - 0, making the goal total for the teams for this season Oswego - 8 Plattsburgh - 6.
Look, Plattsburgh had a good year. They had to replace a full 1/3rd of their team and for a bunch of freshmen they did very very well. They took down some nationally-ranked teams and maintained a spot in the top 10 in the country for most of the year. I'm happy for them. I hope to see more from them next year, and hopefully we can send two SUNYAC teams to the NCAA's next year.
So now losses in one year somehow count more than losses in another year? I think a little bit of bias comes into play here. No one was expecting Oswego to have a perfect season and ride on a cloud of glory to the d3 championship and claim the trophy without breaking a sweat. No one was expecting Oswego to blow out all their opponents by 5 goals every single game.
I'm getting the feeling that no matter what Oswego accomplishes you'll say that they failed because they didn't reach some other nearly impossible goal. I apologize if that's not what you intended, but that's how it came across to me.
Sure, Oswego lost a couple regular season games to Plattsburgh, but they won the game that mattered. And in that game they outscored Plattsburgh 4 - 0, making the goal total for the teams for this season Oswego - 8 Plattsburgh - 6.
Look, Plattsburgh had a good year. They had to replace a full 1/3rd of their team and for a bunch of freshmen they did very very well. They took down some nationally-ranked teams and maintained a spot in the top 10 in the country for most of the year. I'm happy for them. I hope to see more from them next year, and hopefully we can send two SUNYAC teams to the NCAA's next year.
Re: Oswego State Laker Hockey 2012-13...Part 2..Because Norwich's thread didn't close
Looking at the stats for Oswego and Adrian, offensively the two teams are very comparable. Their offensive goals per game are practically the same, though Adrian has a small advantage, but Oswego's defense is on another level over Adrian's. In addition, although Adrian has the #1 PP in the country by far, Oswego receives very few penalty minutes per game compared to Adrian. In fact Adrian is one of the top 10 most penalized teams in the country. They should watch out because Oswego's power play is nothing to laugh at and they will take advantage of penalties. Adrian's PK statistics aren't very promising for them either.
In the end, this game will likely be decided by whoever gets the last shot on goal. I'm predicting a very high scoring game, with the winner having 6 or 7 goals. If the game becomes defensive, and no one's scoring, Adrian should watch their back, because this isn't the type of game they excel at.
Oswego should also watch out though, because getting the first goal against Adrian won't mean much. Adrian gets better as the game goes on. They let in less goals in each successive period and get more goals as well. Don't discount the possibility of a 3rd period comeback for Adrian. Both teams are capable of winning this game.
Looking at the stats for Oswego and Adrian, offensively the two teams are very comparable. Their offensive goals per game are practically the same, though Adrian has a small advantage, but Oswego's defense is on another level over Adrian's. In addition, although Adrian has the #1 PP in the country by far, Oswego receives very few penalty minutes per game compared to Adrian. In fact Adrian is one of the top 10 most penalized teams in the country. They should watch out because Oswego's power play is nothing to laugh at and they will take advantage of penalties. Adrian's PK statistics aren't very promising for them either.
In the end, this game will likely be decided by whoever gets the last shot on goal. I'm predicting a very high scoring game, with the winner having 6 or 7 goals. If the game becomes defensive, and no one's scoring, Adrian should watch their back, because this isn't the type of game they excel at.
Oswego should also watch out though, because getting the first goal against Adrian won't mean much. Adrian gets better as the game goes on. They let in less goals in each successive period and get more goals as well. Don't discount the possibility of a 3rd period comeback for Adrian. Both teams are capable of winning this game.
norm1909
Larry Normandin
Re: Oswego State Laker Hockey 2012-13...Part 2..Because Norwich's thread didn't close
Losses in the CURRENT year (with the current roster) are really the only ones that count now, I'm pulling for Oswego, but their performance against Plattsburgh was not impressive this year - even the title game, had Plattsburgh gained any momentum, the Lakers would have been in trouble. And yes, I was at all three games.
Losses in the CURRENT year (with the current roster) are really the only ones that count now, I'm pulling for Oswego, but their performance against Plattsburgh was not impressive this year - even the title game, had Plattsburgh gained any momentum, the Lakers would have been in trouble. And yes, I was at all three games.
Re: Oswego State Laker Hockey 2012-13...Part 2..Because Norwich's thread didn't close
Norm I usually respect your posts but this last one is ridiculous. Plattsburgh didn't get any momentum in the title game because Hare and the Lakers didn't let them get any. I don't see what is unimpressive about that. Oswego's game plan was to beat Plattsburgh at their own game by taking care of the front of their net, and limiting the odd man rushes. The defense for Oswego didn't take any chances offensively as doing so led to some Platty goals in the other two games. Oswego won most of the board battles, most of the one on one battles and a ton of faceoffs and their PK allowed very little by blocking a huge amount of shots. The Oswego-Platty games usually come down to some luck and bounces and in the first two games the Cards got most of that, this time it was the Lakers turn.
Norm I usually respect your posts but this last one is ridiculous. Plattsburgh didn't get any momentum in the title game because Hare and the Lakers didn't let them get any. I don't see what is unimpressive about that. Oswego's game plan was to beat Plattsburgh at their own game by taking care of the front of their net, and limiting the odd man rushes. The defense for Oswego didn't take any chances offensively as doing so led to some Platty goals in the other two games. Oswego won most of the board battles, most of the one on one battles and a ton of faceoffs and their PK allowed very little by blocking a huge amount of shots. The Oswego-Platty games usually come down to some luck and bounces and in the first two games the Cards got most of that, this time it was the Lakers turn.
Birdwatcher
Registered User
I will agree with Norm on one count. When it was 1-0 if that puck trickling along the goal line would have gone in, I believe it would have made a big difference. I also believe this qualifies as "some luck and bounces" that you speak of! Regardless, Plattsburgh got outplayed from that point on and Oswego was the better team Saturday night. Good luck and make the SUNYAC the proud!