Oswego 2011 Playoff and Offseason Thread: Hips and Nips or We Don't Win!

[jabber811]

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Unless you were playing Plattsburgh btw I have a video from the '88 playoffs you might know some people on the team...going to try to upload it tonight...

I covered the 88-89 and 89-90 seasons for the Palladium-Times and the Oswegonian. Would love to see the video!

 

[PSUChamps2001]

And you were just an average to slightly above average Laker hockey fan for a shorter time (roughly 1360 days). Now get back to work, doesn't Norwich have a home fencing match or something today.

I think its game 2 of the SUNYAC Finals...it said something about a 6-2 win the night before...

 

[mdmadison]

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State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) Commissioner Dr. Patrick Damore has announced the 2010-2011 men's ice hockey all-conference teams as voted on by the league's coaches. The Player, Rookie, and Coach of the Year will be released later this week.


FIRST TEAM
Name School Pos. Yr. Ht. Wt. Hometown
Jordan Oye * Fredonia F Sr. 5-11 170 Richmond, BC
Ian Boots Oswego F Jr. 5-10 180 Akwesasne, NY
Eric Satim *# Plattsburgh F Sr. 5-9 170 Montreal, QUE
Steve Rizer * Fredonia D Sr. 5-10 175 Smithtown, NY
Danny Scagnelli Geneseo D Jr. 5-10 175 College Point, NY
Kevin Carr Buffalo State G Fr. 6-1 170 Unionville, ONT

SECOND TEAM
Nick Petriello ^! Buffalo State F Sr. 5-10 200 St. Catharines, ONT
Bryan Ross Fredonia F Jr. 5-10 175 Livonia, MI
Dylan Clarke *^# Plattsburgh F Sr. 6-1 175 Belleville, ONT
Steve Mallaro * Oswego D Sr. 6-2 185 Syracuse, NY
Mike Grace Plattsburgh D So. 6-0 170 Rochester, NY
Paul Beckwith Oswego G Jr. 5-11 185 Cleveland, OH

HONORABLE MENTION
James Cody Brockport F Jr. 6-2 205 Schwenksville, PA
Jonathan Redlick Geneseo F Jr. 6-1 195 Biggar, SAS
Justin Fox Oswego F Sr. 6-0 190 Whitby, ONT
James Jarvis Morrisville D Fr. 6-1 185 Pickering, ONT
Kevin Huinink Oswego D Sr. 5-10 180 Whitby, ONT
Adrian Rubeniuk Geneseo G So. 5-11 200 Grandview, MB

*All-Conference 2009-10
^All Conference 2008-09
# All Conference 2007-08
! Rookie of the Year 2007-08

Any comments?

 

[LakerEagleLover]

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Rk Name GP W-L-T MIN GA SV SV% GAA
1 Paul Beckwith, Jr, Oswego 16 15-1-0 964:15 30 414 .932 1.8667
2 Mark Friesen, Fr, Fredonia 15 5-7-1 839:07 34 391 .920 2.4311
3 Cory Gershon, Jr, Geneseo 8 4-3-1 483:08 20 211 .913 2.4838
4 Kevin Carr, Fr, Buffalo State 16 8-5-3 974:29 42 534 .927 2.586


Read more: http://www.uscho.com/stats/#ixzz1Eo4oMgCQ

Carr over Beckwith - I don't get it....

 

[mdmadison]

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Rk Name GP W-L-T MIN GA SV SV% GAA
1 Paul Beckwith, Jr, Oswego 16 15-1-0 964:15 30 414 .932 1.8667
2 Mark Friesen, Fr, Fredonia 15 5-7-1 839:07 34 391 .920 2.4311
3 Cory Gershon, Jr, Geneseo 8 4-3-1 483:08 20 211 .913 2.4838
4 Kevin Carr, Fr, Buffalo State 16 8-5-3 974:29 42 534 .927 2.586


Read more: http://www.uscho.com/stats/#ixzz1Eo4oMgCQ

Carr over Beckwith - I don't get it....

It would appear that Carr's 10 minutes more in net made him the choice. Puzzling, isn't it. Just a matter of reference, does anyone know the conference records for goaltenders?

 

[FirstLadyJohnson10]

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And you were just an average to slightly above average Laker hockey fan for a shorter time (roughly 1360 days). Now get back to work, doesn't Norwich have a home fencing match or something today.

I guess I needed to clarify more. Clearly the 1987 team was not average nor were most of the 80's. However, take a look at 1990-2002 and before 1980, Everything screams average about those years.

Sorry calling a spade a spade.

I miss Greene's if that's any consolation prize. I'd like to see a Norwich @ Oswego Quarterfinal game again truthfully so I can make a return to the land of Oz.

-This post was made by the Prez on the First Lady's Mac...Didnt realize she was signed in.

 

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

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I guess I needed to clarify more. Clearly the 1987 team was not average nor were most of the 80's. However, take a look at 1990-2002 and before 1980, Everything screams average about those years.

Sorry calling a spade a spade.

I miss Greene's if that's any consolation prize. I'd like to see a Norwich @ Oswego Quarterfinal game again truthfully so I can make a return to the land of Oz.

-This post was made by the Prez on the First Lady's Mac...Didnt realize she was signed in.

I always knew this was just an alias!!!

 

[DIIIFan]

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The new-age Laker fans forget the pains of the past.

Oswego for a very very long time was just an average to slightly above average hockey program.

The Lakers used to be called the Great Lakers when I was there and they were that GREAT. Just because you aren't old enough to have seen the Great Lakers of yester year don't belittle the great teams that formed the foundation for the great teams of today.
Oswego '89

 

[Laker28]

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The new-age Laker fans forget the pains of the past.

Oswego for a very very long time was just an average to slightly above average hockey program.

From 89-90 to about '96 they were pretty average but in the grand scheme of things it's not really that long of a time to be average. From 79-80 to 88-89 they were pretty good and have the records to prove it.

What I am referring to is not the average years but rather the great regular seasons that ended in a ship wreck when it was all on the line in the playoffs. All those years of first or second place finishes in the league only to fall on their faces for one reason or another in the playoffs.

Since I first started going in 1994 they have won a pair of SUNYAC titles and one national championship but they also had some major playoff failures in there as well.

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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The Lakers used to be called the Great Lakers when I was there and they were that GREAT. Just because you aren't old enough to have seen the Great Lakers of yester year don't belittle the great teams that formed the foundation for the great teams of today.
Oswego '89

I wasn't belitting them and I'm not calling myself a new-age Laker fan. I attended Oswego at the tail-end of the years where the team choked away in the playoffs (minus 2007). Now everyone expects Oswego to win every game by 4 goals and beating Plattsburgh lately is common rather than losing nearly every time. Oswego was something 1-10-1 against Plattsburgh while I was there.

My post is being misconstrued here.

Records are records and facts are facts. The records outside of the 80's were average to slightly above average until 2003 when they went to the title game.

And BTW- your elitist attitude because of your age over me is getting old. I'm not the one that took away the Great Laker nickname. Talk to the SID two people prior to the current one about that. He made it so NO media referred to the hockey team as the Great Lakers. I always have referred to them that way because that is what I grew up knowing them as in the days of Romney when I would make trips up for Elmira games every year.

 

[LakerEagleLover]

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-This post was made by the Prez on the First Lady's Mac...Didnt realize she was signed in.

isn't that cute - does she give you a hockey hall pass for the post season?

 

[93GreatLaker]

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The new-age Laker fans forget the pains of the past.

Oswego for a very very long time was just an average to slightly above average hockey program.

While I will agree that Oswego over the years has had many "average" seasons, the program itself has never been average.

 

[ThatGuy_11]

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Lets not argue about who was better when, past is the past. (a fine and decorated past, may I add) but lets focus on the present, and the Semi final we're looking at on saturday.

And I have another question for you folks, if all goes according to plan, we win the SUNYAC, and all of that, we will host the quarterfinal game in Oswego, presumably.

BUT, if that doesn't happen, would there still be a good chance of us holding the quarterfinal here in Oswego regardless?? Because I was thinking of staying saturday and leaving Sunday to go home so I can catch the game

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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Lets not argue about who was better when, past is the past. (a fine and decorated past, may I add) but lets focus on the present, and the Semi final we're looking at on saturday.

And I have another question for you folks, if all goes according to plan, we win the SUNYAC, and all of that, we will host the quarterfinal game in Oswego, presumably.

BUT, if that doesn't happen, would there still be a good chance of us holding the quarterfinal here in Oswego regardless?? Because I was thinking of staying saturday and leaving Sunday to go home so I can catch the game

I find it hard to imagine that anyone can knock Oswego from the #1 spot in the East now, even with a conference semifinal loss.

Oswego should be hosting a quarterfinal game regardless of what happens.

 

[LakerFan99]

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I wasn't belitting them and I'm not calling myself a new-age Laker fan. I attended Oswego at the tail-end of the years where the team choked away in the playoffs (minus 2007). Now everyone expects Oswego to win every game by 4 goals and beating Plattsburgh lately is common rather than losing nearly every time. Oswego was something 1-10-1 against Plattsburgh while I was there.

My post is being misconstrued here.

Records are records and facts are facts. The records outside of the 80's were average to slightly above average until 2003 when they went to the title game.

And BTW- your elitist attitude because of your age over me is getting old. I'm not the one that took away the Great Laker nickname. Talk to the SID two people prior to the current one about that. He made it so NO media referred to the hockey team as the Great Lakers. I always have referred to them that way because that is what I grew up knowing them as in the days of Romney when I would make trips up for Elmira games every year.

Jeez, this thread isn't off to the greatest start. I blame the title!

 

[collegehcky2]

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Rk Name GP W-L-T MIN GA SV SV% GAA
1 Paul Beckwith, Jr, Oswego 16 15-1-0 964:15 30 414 .932 1.8667
2 Mark Friesen, Fr, Fredonia 15 5-7-1 839:07 34 391 .920 2.4311
3 Cory Gershon, Jr, Geneseo 8 4-3-1 483:08 20 211 .913 2.4838
4 Kevin Carr, Fr, Buffalo State 16 8-5-3 974:29 42 534 .927 2.586


Read more: http://www.uscho.com/stats/#ixzz1Eo4oMgCQ

Carr over Beckwith - I don't get it....

Carr is good, but not good enough to justify him over Beckwith as the First Team Conference goalie.

 

[LakerEagleLover]

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Jeez, this thread isn't off to the greatest start. I blame the title!

Agreed....

 

[mdmadison]

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Carr is good, but not good enough to justify him over Beckwith as the First Team Conference goalie.

Perhaps it's like Jaslow said maybe Beckwith isn't flashy enough

College Hockey:
The “New” regular season champion
By Russell Jaslow • SUNYAC Columnist • Thursday, February 10, 2011
Yes, Oswego won the regular season last year, and they won it again this year. However, the team that won it this year is a bit different than the team that took the points title the previous season.
...the defense and goaltending had to improve, and it did, from a 2.03 goals against average in conference play to 1.77.

Goaltending also changed this year, going from Kyle Gunn-Taylor to Paul Beckwith. Beckwith, in his third year, has finally, and deservedly, nailed down the number one spot. Yet, he is the Rodney Dangerfield of netminders. He gets no respect. This, despite having a career 1.94 GAA and .925 save percentage.

Is it because he plays for a team that is so good, the goaltender can simply be a plug and play position? Is it because when he lost the starting role last year due to illness, Gunn-Taylor stepped in without a hitch, making it appear Beckwith was not a key piece? Or is it because Beckwith gets the job done without any flair or Hasek-like propeller limbs?

So many times you see a goalie slightly out of position or playing the shot slightly wrong, forcing him to make a spectacular-looking save which ironically can make him appear to be this great goalie, when in fact he had to “look” good because he messed up in the first place. And thus, a goalie like Beckwith slides by without any accolades or shouts of amazement from the crowd.

Eyes should have been opened when Beckwith missed games with an injury. The team’s only two losses were when Beckwith did not suit up. Andrew Hare, a midyear Division I transfer from Niagara, has not taken the job from Beckwith, nor has understudy, Dan Jones.

Distributed scoring, tighter defense, and new goaltending, but the same results — a SUNYAC regular season title for Oswego.

 

[bakdraft21]

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Unless you were playing Plattsburgh btw I have a video from the '88 playoffs you might know some people on the team...going to try to upload it tonight...

graduated in 87, but im sure the boys who I played with Fitzgerald, Mcfall , Grennie Statfeld and Albano were still banging.....well hopeing for a great game tonight, should be a slugfest......

 

[Laker Ranger]

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I find it hard to imagine that anyone can knock Oswego from the #1 spot in the East now, even with a conference semifinal loss.

Oswego should be hosting a quarterfinal game regardless of what happens.

Sounds like the tale of "not so long ago", when Oz dropping the SUNYAC semi turned into paving the way to a bigger title...neah, hopefully Lakers win this one.

This should be an entertaining first round tonight - quick Q: Buff State has video coverage, and Platty has only radio, right?