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Open Wheel Racing 2021, anyone there to watch?

Russell Jaslow said:
Yes. But the real problem is teams aren't going out on Friday in order to save their allotments. Sure, it rained this time on Friday, but word was, the teams were going to limit their running anyway. Thus, less cars on track for the fans.

BTW, it was supposed to be first tried out at Imola. So, it was supposed to be done three times this year. They decided not to sub in another race to replace the Imola experiment.
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As repeatedly emphasised by Pirelli, which described the debut as “positive”, this is not a ‘spicing up the show’ measure. It is a sustainability measure to cut the number of race weekend tyres used by some 3840 units over the course of a full 24-race season.
 
Russell Jaslow said:
Yes. But the real problem is teams aren't going out on Friday in order to save their allotments. Sure, it rained this time on Friday, but word was, the teams were going to limit their running anyway. Thus, less cars on track for the fans.
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I suppose if it becomes permanent they will develop news ways of dealing with it as time marches on. My first thought is anything that makes strategy less important can only help Ferrari.
 
Kepler said:
I suppose if it becomes permanent they will develop news ways of dealing with it as time marches on. My first thought is anything that makes strategy less important can only help Ferrari.
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LOL

BTW, the next time this will be tried is at Monza. Then they will decide what to do next year.
 
I lived in Portland for 6 years and I never saw the Portland International Raceway mentioned, in any form of media, once. I had no idea it existed.

We left in 2003 so maybe it just didn't exist yet. But Portland has a habit of having these super weird unknown sports things that go back a century. My favorite is the current baseball stadium used to host world championship ski jumping in the 1950s.

Ski jumping. In a ballpark.

They built a ski jump in centerfield. This is real:

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That stadium ain’t hosting baseball anytime soon. Unless you want a real short porch in left field…

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The stadium is hideous now and has been since the mid-90s. It's like being jammed in a sardine can.

They should build something beautiful in the crappy part of North Portland that still has the river. Gentrify like with Anacostia. Drive out the homeless.
 
Kepler said:
I lived in Portland for 6 years and I never saw the Portland International Raceway mentioned, in any form of media, once. I had no idea it existed.
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You must not have been paying much attention.

PIR has been around since 1961. It was built on the old Vanport area which was destroyed in 1948 when a railroad berm failed causing the Columbia River to flood the town. So, with just the paved streets and building foundations left, they built a racetrack on the remains.

During the CART Indycar heyday, it held a very popular round of the series as well as hosting an IMSA event. It also from the beginning hosted the Rose Cup to coincide with the Portland Rose Festival, one of the top amateur sports car events in the country. (Indy car has since returned, but IMSA has not.)

It also has a dragstrip (which is why the front stretch is so wide) and a motocross track.
 
Russell Jaslow said:
You must not have been paying much attention.

PIR has been around since 1961. It was built on the old Vanport area which was destroyed in 1948 when a railroad berm failed causing the Columbia River to flood the town. So, with just the paved streets and building foundations left, they built a racetrack on the remains.

During the CART Indycar heyday, it held a very popular round of the series as well as hosting an IMSA event. It also from the beginning hosted the Rose Cup to coincide with the Portland Rose Festival, one of the top amateur sports car events in the country. (Indy car has since returned, but IMSA has not.)

It also has a dragstrip (which is why the front stretch is so wide) and a motocross track.
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In fairness to Kepler, the dates he was living there would’ve been smack dab in the middle of the CART/IRL split so it’s understandable he wouldn’t have known.
 
I don't own the Racing Capitol of the World, so they probably know something I don't, but why would IMS combine Indy and NASCAR's road course races into a single weekend? Maybe you'll get fans buying tickets to races for both orgs whereas they might not come out for one if it was just an Indy or NASCAR weekend alone, but I would think you'd rather fill two weekends than have one big one. Though with NBC having rights to all the races maybe they had some say in it.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
I don't own the Racing Capitol of the World, so they probably know something I don't, but why would IMS combine Indy and NASCAR's road course races into a single weekend? Maybe you'll get fans buying tickets to races for both orgs whereas they might not come out for one if it was just an Indy or NASCAR weekend alone, but I would think you'd rather fill two weekends than have one big one. Though with NBC having rights to all the races maybe they had some say in it.
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And additional question- why race at a track twice? They already did a race here in May before the 500.

It's a good race and all, but repeating a track?
 
MichVandal said:
And additional question- why race at a track twice? They already did a race here in May before the 500.

It's a good race and all, but repeating a track?
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Originally because they had trouble finding venues...

But now, I think they will dump the second trip to Indy. Especially since next year NASCAR will use the oval for their race. And it's too much logistical setup work to go back and forth.
 
Russell Jaslow said:
Originally because they had trouble finding venues...

But now, I think they will dump the second trip to Indy. Especially since next year NASCAR will use the oval for their race. And it's too much logistical setup work to go back and forth.
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That certainly does not speak well of Indycar.
 
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