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Open Wheel Racing 2021, anyone there to watch?

Russell Jaslow said:
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/gary-anderson-why-tsunoda-conspiracy-was-clearly-nonsense/
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I get it. It makes less than no sense. It STILL looks bad. Park a car in a SC spot, start getting out, get told to drive back to the pits, do some random stuff, and then park the car in a VSC spot when he could have easily driven the car back to the pits. Can't say that he could not have- the team had no idea what was wrong, and had him drive back to the pits and back out on the track, so getting it slowly around the whole track was quite possible.

It just looks really bad. And the fact that there are tons of people out there saying it's not possible is a testament to how bad it looks.
 
MichVandal said:
I get it. It makes less than no sense. It STILL looks bad. Park a car in a SC spot, start getting out, get told to drive back to the pits, do some random stuff, and then park the car in a VSC spot when he could have easily driven the car back to the pits. Can't say that he could not have- the team had no idea what was wrong, and had him drive back to the pits and back out on the track, so getting it slowly around the whole track was quite possible.

It just looks really bad. And the fact that there are tons of people out there saying it's not possible is a testament to how bad it looks.
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Oh, it definitely looks bad. I agree with that.

On a disturbing note, on social media, Hannah Schmitt is receiving a horrifying amount of abuse (God knows why people are even blaming her). Any other strategist would never even be mentioned. But you know, woman, must be her fault because she can't possibly be that good because you know, woman...
 
Russell Jaslow said:
Oh, it definitely looks bad. I agree with that.

On a disturbing note, on social media, Hannah Schmitt is receiving a horrifying amount of abuse (God knows why people are even blaming her). Any other strategist would never even be mentioned. But you know, woman, must be her fault because she can't possibly be that good because you know, woman...
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That's stupid. It's not as if she's the only one that could have made (or not) that same call. And George was pretty adamant to change the tires- Lewis could have done the same thing. His emotions may have calmed down once he saw that George would have been passed on the opening straight, and then him on the next time around- no real need to wait for DRS with the RBR on softs and the MB's on old mediums. Had he asked for the change, perhaps he could fight it out with Max at the end...
 
MichVandal said:
That's stupid. It's not as if she's the only one that could have made (or not) that same call. And George was pretty adamant to change the tires- Lewis could have done the same thing. His emotions may have calmed down once he saw that George would have been passed on the opening straight, and then him on the next time around- no real need to wait for DRS with the RBR on softs and the MB's on old mediums. Had he asked for the change, perhaps he could fight it out with Max at the end...
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Hannah Schmitz (I was spelling it wrong) is Red Bull's chief strategist. She's is getting harassed for being a "fake" because she can only "win" when AlphaTauri creates fake VSCs, and therefore can only have success because she "cheats" because you know woman... (Lewis Hamilton has come out and defended her.)

James Vowles is Mercedes' chief strategist.
 
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Russell Jaslow said:
Hannah Schmitz (I was spelling it wrong) is Red Bull's chief strategist. She's is getting harassed for being a "fake" because she can only "win" when AlphaTauri creates fake VSCs, and therefore can only have success because she "cheats" because you know woman...

James Vowles is Mercedes' chief strategist.
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Ah. I still think that's stupid.

As I see it, the only way that it would have gone down was from the upper reaches of Red Bull Co. as I see it as a major money grab in the Netherlands- both for the terrible drink and the clothing. There's a real incentive to pump up the live value of the company, with the owner looking to get out. The team knew they would win.

The other factor that I would point to the father company is that Tsunoda isn't really marked with a contract- he's certainly not going to Red Bull. So doing something for the father company may put him in a better light for a future.
 
When Max "Christopher Walken's character in View to a Kill" Verstappen is the voice of social justice you know the situation is a hot mess.

Did I stumble into F1 just in time for an amazing scandal, or do these happen all the time? It sure seems like there is constant drama worthy of The Bachelorette.
 
So evidently the chief engineering strategist for RedBull (and the ostensible villain here) is a woman, and... my god social media is a cesspool. So much for European civilization. They have Righties too.
 
Jesus Christ. Watching the nascar DTS type show. I’m sorry I just can’t stand this real world type of garbage. And the drivers are either dumb as hell or incredibly boring.


christ, how is INDYCAR not utterly destroying these dopes who drive taxicabs?!?!?!
 
Or this.

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I don't understand why it took two laps for the safety car to come out after it was called. Not that I think it would've changed the results with Max on new softs and Leclerc and Russell on used, but would've been nice to have at least a couple laps of green to end the race.
 
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I don't understand why it took two laps for the safety car to come out after it was called. Not that I think it would've changed the results with Max on new softs and Leclerc and Russell on used, but would've been nice to have at least a couple laps of green to end the race.
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I don’t think it took two laps. I think the TV producer never picked it up for two laps.

Once the safety car call comes out, the field has to slow down to a delta time, whether the safety car is actually on the track. At that point the Marshalls were trying to push the car. The problem was, it was stuck in gear. At that point all hope of green flag running was lost (unless your name is Masi…) because they had to bring out the crane, and that ate up the rest of the time when you also factor in the lapped cars being moved around.

What I want investigated was why was Ricciardo's car still in gear? That is specifically against the rules. You must put it in neutral when you stop the car (which is what caused the Sainz rolling car fire fiasco). Obviously, there are certain mechanical reasons why a driver can’t leave it in neutral, but I’ve heard nothing from the FIA that this will be investigated. Hopefully, I simply missed that announcement.
 
That ending showed me I still don't understand 90% of the rules. Everything involving who had to slow down when, and how they got cars unlapped, was completely gibberish to me.

Likewise I always have problems with undercutting, and why teams play that game of chicken where they do the opposite of the pitting decision of their immediate competition. If there is a primer on what the tactical considerations are I'd love to read it. I can see the following issues being involved, but they don't add up to the gyrations I see on the track:

1. The number and identity of cars you fall behind when you pit. That's more you have to pass and more chance of being trapped behind a slower vehicle and losing lap times.

2. The amount of time you spend on the different hardness of tires. This is the tradeoff between lap speed and tire degradation.

3. The amount of time you spend warming tires up. An efficiency function where you try to limit poor performance on colder tires.

4. Obviously, the actual hit you take on time in pitting.

5. Team effects in lining up cars you can use to tow or block.
 
Hard to point out all of the possibilities, but a few years ago, Hamilton went out and held up the entire field until the pit window was about to open, then he Hammer Timed it to gap to 4th for a pit, so there was no way to undercut his work. Basically, he forced one strategy from the front. Pretty brilliant plan.

But learning about all of your questions will make F1 even more fun.
 
MichVandal said:
Hard to point out all of the possibilities, but a few years ago, Hamilton went out and held up the entire field until the pit window was about to open, then he Hammer Timed it to gap to 4th for a pit, so there was no way to undercut his work. Basically, he forced one strategy from the front. Pretty brilliant plan.

But learning about all of your questions will make F1 even more fun.
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Oh yah, the experience of learning is something Dr. Mrs. and I are sharing and enjoying.
 
Russell Jaslow said:
What I want investigated was why was Ricciardo's car still in gear? That is specifically against the rules. You must put it in neutral when you stop the car (which is what caused the Sainz rolling car fire fiasco). Obviously, there are certain mechanical reasons why a driver can’t leave it in neutral, but I’ve heard nothing from the FIA that this will be investigated. Hopefully, I simply missed that announcement.
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I finally caught up with the post race shows, and in Daniel Ricciardo's interview, he said when everything shut down, it was stuck in gear. So, it sounds like he had no way to get it into neutral.
 
Kepler said:
Oh yah, the experience of learning is something Dr. Mrs. and I are sharing and enjoying.
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Keep in mind, everything in racing is a compromise. Everything. So when a team has to answer all those strategy questions you asked in a previous post -- on the fly no less -- they are weighing the best compromise(s) possible.
 
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