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Olympic women's hockey

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D2D said:
Fun fact: This was the first time the U.S. beat Canada for the Gold Medal this century. Until last night Canada had won 20-something Olympic games in a row. And you want to fire the coach who put a stop to these streaks? Except for a tiny minority of women's hockey fans no one will remember who won or lost in all the preliminary games leading up to last night's final.

Everyone here knows how you feel about Coach Stauber, Arafel. Time to let it go.
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No, it's not, not while people are trying to credit Stauber as a coaching genius. Anybody with eyes could see the U.S. was outplayed for much of last night's game. They didn't even get a shot on net until seven minutes were gone in the game. The power play was anemic at best, they got overwhelmed in the second, and for most of the third it wasn't looking good either. Stauber didn't do anything right, and if USA Hockey keeps him, I expect the results of December through the round robin will be very common.
 
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bluffrinkrat said:
HUGE I would think. Hopefully similar to what the King/Riggs match did for girl's tennis in the 70's.
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I don't think much at all, either you as a kid or your parents like hockey, therefore you play or attend. I can guarantee attendance at the playoff games this weekend will not get a bump, and if there was a huge wave of interest and support it would happen this weekend above all others.
 
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Timothy A said:
I don't think much at all,
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I hope I'm wrong, but I'm with Tim here. It wasn't on NBC during prime-time; It was on 'after bed time' for at least half the country, on a cable channel that lots of people don't get. How many people even saw it?
 
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Arafel said:
No, it's not, not while people are trying to credit Stauber as a coaching genius. Anybody with eyes could see the U.S. was outplayed for much of last night's game. They didn't even get a shot on net until seven minutes were gone in the game. The power play was anemic at best, they got overwhelmed in the second, and for most of the third it wasn't looking good either. Stauber didn't do anything right, and if USA Hockey keeps him, I expect the results of December through the round robin will be very common.
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I thought they were tense, tentative or just out of sync for the first two periods of the game or so. They were a totally different team after M Lam scored. And the overtime? WOW, were they moving the puck! I'm certainly willing to give most of the credit to M Lam's goal for the change in play and to Rooney for the win. Stauber, not so much.
 
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bluffrinkrat said:
I thought they were tense, tentative or just out of sync for the first two periods of the game or so. They were a totally different team after M Lam scored. And the overtime? WOW, were they moving the puck! I'm certainly willing to give most of the credit to M Lam's goal for the change in play and to Rooney for the win. Stauber, not so much.
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Yep, total agreement with this. The looked like the team from Plymouth in the OT for sure.
 
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Except for a couple times during the first period I don't recall hearing what the SOG were.

Anybody know what they were at the end of each period or total at the end of regulation and in OT?
 
Scott_TG said:
The stats on the Olympic site don't break it down by period but they have the total as 42-31 USA
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Those floaters from far away that Szabados caught outfielder style shouldn't be included as actual shots on goal but I'm pretty sure they are based on the criterion of "If she wasn't there to stop them they might have dropped into the net." Quality shots were probably very even as was the whole game.
 
shelfit said:
Those floaters from far away that Szabados caught outfielder style shouldn't be included as actual shots on goal but I'm pretty sure they are based on the criterion of "If she wasn't there to stop them they might have dropped into the net." Quality shots were probably very even as was the whole game.
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Watched the whole game and thought that the play was fairly even early on but the US started taking over in the 3rd. They were clearly better in the OT and were deserving of the win. Like most, I hate to see a game like this one end in a shootout but in this case, the hockey gods got it right.
 
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bluffrinkrat said:
I thought they were tense, tentative or just out of sync for the first two periods of the game or so. They were a totally different team after M Lam scored. And the overtime? WOW, were they moving the puck! I'm certainly willing to give most of the credit to M Lam's goal for the change in play and to Rooney for the win. Stauber, not so much.
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I thought Stauber did an excellent job moving players around and using his bench in the 4 on 4 overtime. The U.S. was the fresher and better team in the O.T., whereas Canada looked tired. Of course, this had nothing to do with coaching, it was just pure luck that the U.S. controlled play when the game was on the line.
 
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D2D said:
I thought Stauber did an excellent job moving players around and using his bench in the 4 on 4 overtime. The U.S. was the fresher and better team in the O.T., whereas Canada looked tired. Of course, this had nothing to do with coaching, it was just pure luck that the U.S. controlled play when the game was on the line.
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Your sarcastic quote actually has more merit than you realize. The U.S. was lucky to get to the OT and have a chance to dominate there.
 
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robertearle said:
I hope I'm wrong, but I'm with Tim here. It wasn't on NBC during prime-time; It was on 'after bed time' for at least half the country, on a cable channel that lots of people don't get. How many people even saw it?
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This is the sad reality that this game will have very little impact on womens hockey overall. Really, they couldn't have picked a worse olympics to win gold from the "have an impact on the sport" perspective. The game didn't finish until about 2am eastern, and was shown on NBCSN, that alone severely limits the potential of eyeballs.

The good news: NBC says the game was the most watched late night broadcast in NBCSN History, so it had at least 2 million viewers (Best I can find, the previous record for NBCSN was an NHL playoff game that had 1.9M viewers). That also means for the second consecutive olympics, the Womens Gold Medal game will almost certainly be the most watched hockey game of the Olympics in the US, outperforming any mens game.

The bad news: That will still be less than half of the nearly 5 million people who watched the womens gold medal game in Sochi - which was show in the middle of the afternoon on NBC's main channel.

Of course, the exposure and publicity from the win can only help fuel the continued growth of the sport, but realistically, there just weren't enough people watching for this one game to have been a significant turning point moment that causes any major boost in interest outside of the Olympics.
 
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Nowheresville said:
This is the sad reality that this game will have very little impact on womens hockey overall. Really, they couldn't have picked a worse olympics to win gold from the "have an impact on the sport" perspective. The game didn't finish until about 2am eastern, and was shown on NBCSN, that alone severely limits the potential of eyeballs.

The good news: NBC says the game was the most watched late night broadcast in NBCSN History, so it had at least 2 million viewers (Best I can find, the previous record for NBCSN was an NHL playoff game that had 1.9M viewers). That also means for the second consecutive olympics, the Womens Gold Medal game will almost certainly be the most watched hockey game of the Olympics in the US, outperforming any mens game.

The bad news: That will still be less than half of the nearly 5 million people who watched the womens gold medal game in Sochi - which was show in the middle of the afternoon on NBC's main channel.

Of course, the exposure and publicity from the win can only help fuel the continued growth of the sport, but realistically, there just weren't enough people watching for this one game to have been a significant turning point moment that causes any major boost in interest outside of the Olympics.
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Let me start by saying that the Canadian networks were oversaturated with the women's hockey game; CBC, TSN and Sportsnet ALL carried the game!

Having said that I was really disappointed that the main NBC channel didn't. Despite wearing my maple leaf on my sleeve, I actually wanted to watch part of the game on the American channel so I could see how the "other side" was calling the game, no such luck....and no NBCSN up here.
 
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Arafel said:
No, it's not, not while people are trying to credit Stauber as a coaching genius. Anybody with eyes could see the U.S. was outplayed for much of last night's game. They didn't even get a shot on net until seven minutes were gone in the game. The power play was anemic at best, they got overwhelmed in the second, and for most of the third it wasn't looking good either. Stauber didn't do anything right, and if USA Hockey keeps him, I expect the results of December through the round robin will be very common.
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Whine whine whine. The last two US teams took home a silver & the one before that a bronze. Under this "rotten coach" the US won the world championship, the 4-Nations Cup and the Olympic gold. Who has done better? The funny thing is I question a lot of the things he did and wonder about his decisions but this continual attempt to trash him is BS. I'd be OK if he were replaced but nobody has a record as good against Canada so maybe you would be more convincing if you were less strident about it.
 
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bluffrinkrat said:
The headline in the Pioneer Press sports page today: PARTY LIKE IT'S 1998.

I sincerely hope that when the next NCAA championship or Olympic games are broadcast there is someone other than A J Mieczko providing the analysis. She was irritatingly awful. Gigi Marvin might be an excellent replacement. I also hope that whoever broadcasts the Olympic women's hockey games in 4 years show as many flashbacks of a crying captain Poulin as they did of captain Duggan last night from 4 years ago.
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It seemed like we saw the OT goal about 800 times during the game. NBC really beat that poor expired horse to dust
 
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thirdtime's . . . said:
Couldn’t see straight after the game last night (still can't), but wanted to post: Is everybody ready to give the Lams some luv? I guess so.

(Btw, that silver medal removal thing was ugly)
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I said it earlier, we noticed a huge change in the Lams game out in Plymouth. They let the Canadian cheapshots go & focused on playing up to their talent. That made a big difference not just in the US game but in the Canadian's game as well. Without them raising to the bait Canada laid off crap that had done a lot to disrupt US play. If this change is them maturing it is wonderful. If it was coaching it was smart. They have the potential to be the best players on a team of outstanding players & they showed it this last year.

Watching them in the freshman year I commented that they were million dollar talents with 5 cent brains. They tooks stupid penalties at the wrong time again and again. (who was in the penalty box when Canada scored the power play game winner in 2014? Hint: her twin was not in the box)
 
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