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Ohio State Buckeyes 2022-2023 ... The Drive For Duluth

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Nice win today. OSU was back to being aggressive and banging bodies.

i had to take motion sickness meds because of the camera work. I think the camera person was fighting a swarm of bees while shooting the game.
 
I hate to say it but we've no room to complain as we have the worst broadcast in the conference at our rink.

OSU cameras are bad. The netting makes it worse. I like the OSU announcers. Zach is a good kid that does a good job and he tries not to be a homer. The camera people are bad sometimes but not as bad as today’s camera person.

A new arena is the only thing that will fix the broadcast problems. Maybe with the big crowds a decision will be made soon for a new arena.

in the mean time, Go Bucks!
 
OSU cameras are bad. The netting makes it worse. I like the OSU announcers. Zach is a good kid that does a good job and he tries not to be a homer. The camera people are bad sometimes but not as bad as today’s camera person.

A new arena is the only thing that will fix the broadcast problems. Maybe with the big crowds a decision will be made soon for a new arena.

in the mean time, Go Bucks!

I believe the lacrosse stadium was opened today…. It’s hockey time now right? Time to kick off the fundraising! I like ARM’s optimistic take that Muzerall may strive to have an appropriate rink built during her tenure like Halldorson did at Minnesota.

The Lang Arena video was both nostalgic and hilarious. I wonder if Hockey Canada insurance covers drawbridge accidents. Other than the drawbridge which is a little extreme, nothing wrong with a modest barn for minor hockey. Thanks for sharing.
 
As some of you have already alluded to, the Bucks got a nice bounce-back win earlier today. I am just setting down to do my rundown of the game. Mrs 86 is a BGSU grad and we ventured up to the Slater Family Ice Arena aka the Madhouse on Mercer to watch the Falcons take on the Ferris State Bulldogs. BG lost in a shootout, but I digress. The Buckeye Women took care of business and looked more like a #1 team today than they did in yesterday's game. The Gophers did take the early lead in the first period on a goal from Madeline Wethington to make it 1-0. Buckeyes would answer later in the first period on goals from Sloane Matthews and Hadley Hartmetz to take a 2-1 lead into the first intermission. Hartmetz' goal would turn out to be the game-winner as the Gophers were unable to light the lamp the rest of the way. Neither team scored in the second frame, so the score remained 2-1 heading into the final intermission. The Buckeyes struck for three third period goals to put it away, final score, 5-1. Ohio State's third period goals were scored by Gabby Rosenthal, Kenzie Hauswirth, and Paetyn Levis. Shots on goal were close with the Gophers outshooting the Buckeyes 33-32. Amanda Thiele got the start in net for Ohio State and stopped 32 of the 33 shots she faced to get the win. Minnesota's Skylar Vetter stopped 27 of the 32 shots she faced. Ohio State will return home next weekend to face St. Thomas for Senior Weekend. And folks, a word to the wise, if you are coming, please get to the games when the doors open as we are reaching capacity these days and the ushers are having to turn people away (can we get a new arena already?). Minnesota will host Wisconsin next weekend.
 
The Buckeyes struck for three third period goals to put it away, final score, 5-1. Ohio State's third period goals were scored by Gabby Rosenthal, Kenzie Hauswirth, and Paetyn Levis.
So good to have Gabby back in the line-up this weekend. (For anyone unaware, she was dinged up a few games back.) For my part, I thought Rosenthal's goal was the key moment in the game.

With a right-on-time centering pass from Jenn Gardiner, Gabby found herself in close quarters with the outstanding Gopher Goalie. What to do? With an impressive combination of strength and precision, Rosenthal shelfed the puck. From the video feed, I can't say for sure if the puck went in straight away or if Vetter got a little piece of it. But up the ladder it went; and what a sweet sight when the puck hit the twine.
 
I hate to say it but we've no room to complain as we have the worst broadcast in the conference at our rink.

This! I replayed the game last night on BTN+, and although I fast-forwarded through a lot of it, I did not think it was that bad. And yeah, the worst feed in the league is ours at the OSU Ice Rink, so we probably shouldn't be throwing stones on that topic!
 
I believe the lacrosse stadium was opened today…. It’s hockey time now right? Time to kick off the fundraising! I like ARM’s optimistic take that Muzerall may strive to have an appropriate rink built during her tenure like Halldorson did at Minnesota.

The Lang Arena video was both nostalgic and hilarious. I wonder if Hockey Canada insurance covers drawbridge accidents. Other than the drawbridge which is a little extreme, nothing wrong with a modest barn for minor hockey. Thanks for sharing.

It should definitely be hockey time now! Every other sport on campus has a new facility (or at least one that is way newer and more up-to-date than the OSU Ice Rink)! It should definitely be next in line.
 
So good to have Gabby back in the line-up this weekend. (For anyone unaware, she was dinged up a few games back.) For my part, I thought Rosenthal's goal was the key moment in the game.

With a right-on-time centering pass from Jenn Gardiner, Gabby found herself in close quarters with the outstanding Gopher Goalie. What to do? With an impressive combination of strength and precision, Rosenthal shelfed the puck. From the video feed, I can't say for sure if the puck went in straight away or if Vetter got a little piece of it. But up the ladder it went; and what a sweet sight when the puck hit the twine.

It was definitely great to have Gabby back! I also liked getting two goals from the third line (great depth on this team), along with the game-winner from defender Hadley Hartmetz! It shows how much depth Coach Muzerall has built on this team. I am really looking forward to the coming weeks of hockey!
 
It should definitely be hockey time now! Every other sport on campus has a new facility (or at least one that is way newer and more up-to-date than the OSU Ice Rink)! It should definitely be next in line.

Separate men's and women's rinks? Or what size do you think is the right compromise for both programs? GS has never shown much interest in hockey much less in a significant capital investment in facilities, so I'm wondering if we have to wait for his successor.
 
Separate men's and women's rinks?
I've come to believe that Separate is the way to go. I'm hearing through the grapevine that serious thought is being given to a new ice sheet that would exactly replace the functions of the Ice Rink. Practice Rink for Men's Hockey; Competition Rink for Women's Hockey.

Note that both Minnesota (Ridder & Mariucci) and Wisconsin (LaBahn & Kohl) have separate rinks. My understanding is that in both cases, the rinks are connected by tunnel. That way the two facilities can share back-up Zambonis, extra locker rooms for tournaments, and so on. Also, the Men's team could simply walk through the tunnel to their practice rink, rather than taking the bus ride they currently "enjoy." Admittedly my thinking has evolved over the years. Read on.

Or what size do you think is the right compromise for both programs?
Personally I no longer believe there is a right compromise. Figure out the perfect number of seats for the Women's program, and build the new rink accordingly.

Repeating For Emphasis: Figure out the perfect number of seats for the Women's program, and build the new rink accordingly.

Right this second, I don't have an exact number in mind. I'll toss around some numbers and post again.

Part of my evolved thinking is that we finally have a good situation for the Men's team at the Schott. When the black curtains only went 2/3 of the way around the rink, you still had the "ocean of empty seats" problem. But now that the black curtains go all the way around, I believe it works. Last weekend against Penn State, the lower bowl was comfortably filled, and we had a fine atmosphere. Lower bowl + Huntington Club is what: 8,000 - 9,000 seats? That's a good number for Men's Hockey. And for the relatively infrequent, but enormous game or tournament? You can raise the curtains & use the upper bowl.

GS has never shown much interest in hockey much less in a significant capital investment in facilities, so I'm wondering if we have to wait for his successor.
Our AD shows up for Women's Hockey from time-to-time, and seems genuinely interested. The key question, of course, is when "thought" and "interest" turn into action.
 
OSU is probably the most well funded athletic program in the conference. There's no reason that I can think of that they couldn't afford to build a dual ice arena with the larger seating capacity for the men's side. Then there would be the debate of how much seating for the women's. A number of people have the mindset it's best to be small enough to have sellouts, well we have that now don't we? We have people lament that people are turned away at the door then you have to have a facility large enough so that doesn't happen so that means sellouts won't happen. You can't have it both ways.
I would advocate for an arena large enough that we would be awarded hosting WCHA tournament finals and NCAA tournament rounds. That would in my opinion be more advantageous for our program than always being at capacity. On a side note, if they quit scheduling the women's home games overlapping the men's we would have more fans in a larger building!
 
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Personally I no longer believe there is a right compromise. Figure out the perfect number of seats for the Women's program, and build the new rink accordingly.

Repeating For Emphasis: Figure out the perfect number of seats for the Women's program, and build the new rink accordingly.

clapping emoji for this! Plainly stated this is exactly what they should do.

Perhaps the OSU obligation starts and ends with looking after their student athletes (or maybe it doesn’t) but here are a couple other things I think about:

girls wrestling became OHSAA sanctioned this year and just like that (snaps fingers) the girls state championship will be held in the same nice facility as the boys. That’s great for the girls. I’m happy for the kids even though wrestling is not something I know anything about. I wonder why that equality always seems to drag when it comes to hockey? I just don’t get it, but I hope we can keep moving. Not saying put the girls in a huge building; I’m saying figure out what’s right and build it, finally.

I’m curious about the impact winning a national championship and having a first class rink can have on the growth of girls hockey in a state. Again - this is not OSU’s responsibility, but I wonder if there’s evidence of the championships or construction of a decent rink driving girls hockey enrollment in a state, or in Clarkson’s case, a town or region. Maybe it’s just wishful thinking on my part but it feels like the success of Ohio State women’s hockey should be a driving factor in growing girls hockey in the state. Holding off on addressing the rink issue seems like a hindrance. I recall (I think) TTT referring to Ridder as a women’s hockey Mecca. How amazing if Ohio State might have their own version of such a rink, for Ohio girls to visit, cheer, and dream in.

nhl.com had another recent article about the revived aaa girls blue jackets team and referenced the Ohio State natty as energizing that program. Love to see it…
 
OSU is probably the most well funded athletic program in the conference. There's no reason that I can think of that they couldn't afford to build a dual ice arena with the larger seating capacity for the men's side.
Of course that would be a dream come true. Essentially you're saying build a new "Mariucci" for the Men, and a new "Ridder" for the Women. But I'm focused on what's doable. My crystal ball says that just isn't happening. Still, it's not wrong to dream; sometimes dreams become reality. Maybe my crystal ball is too pessimistic.

Then there would be the debate of how much seating for the women's. A number of people have the mindset it's best to be small enough to have sellouts, well we have that now don't we? Why people lament that people are turned away at the door then you have to have a facility large enough so that doesn't happen so that means sellouts won't happen. You can't have it both ways.
Agreed that you can't have it both ways. And I hope the disagreement between us is always respectful. But I despise the "ocean of empty seats." My ideal set-up is a near sellouts for most games, hard sellouts for the biggest games. Can reasonable people differ? Of course. But will I ever change my mind, and opt for the "laid back living room" atmosphere of a facility that's much too large for normal games? I will not.

The problem with the number of seats at the Ice Rink is not that it's designed for sellouts. The problem is that it's literally too small. At least when the team is contending for a National Title and tickets are free. FWIW.

Now I would certainly agree that 900 seats (or whatever the absolute maximum is currently) is too small for a new Women's Hockey Rink. At the other end of the spectrum, note that Ridder's capacity is 3,400 seats -- as per D2D. For me, that would be the absolute highest I would want to go for the Women's team. More numbers soon.

I would advocate for an arena large enough that we would be awarded hosting WCHA tournament finals...
The WCHA Final Face-Off doesn't currently rotate. And don't forget we are a geographic outlier in our conference, far removed from at least six of our conference mates. Wisconsin is the only school that's readily driveable from Columbus.

Another geographic point, when starting out from the Minnesota schools, Madison is only 1/3 or 1/2 of the way to Columbus. If the Final Face-Off won't rotate to Madison, what makes you think it would rotate all the way to Columbus?

But suppose it was held here. The event would have a major challenge in terms of attracting fans of the traveling teams. Let's say we wind up building a rink that seats 2,150. I'm not settled on that number, it's simply halfway between 900 & 3,400. 2,150 seats would accommodate a "one-off" Final Face-Off, IMHO.

... and NCAA tournament rounds. That would in my opinion be more advantageous for our program than always being at capacity.
The most committed fans will make it to NCAA regional games. But those games are played on 4 days notice, precluding large contingents of visiting fans. And because of the inevitable conflicts with Hoops March Madness, you aren't going to get the local casual fans. Frozen Four? Similar analysis. Though at least for a FF, neutral fans can plan well in advance.

But in either case, the arbitrary 2,150 seats would likely be enough. The 3,400 number certainly would be. And what about a once in a lifetime event where 3,400 is much too small? The 8,000 - 9,000 configuration at the Schott would be available.

On a side note, if they quit scheduling the women's home games overlapping the men's we would have more fans in a larger building!
Of course I strongly agree with this. Good to conclude on a note of agreement.
 
This team needs a new rink...luckily Nadine has done a great job with what they have, but come on in order to keep competing at this level they are at they need to win some recruiting battles. This rink doesn't get it done. This should be a slam dunk for any recruit that comes to campus, but the rink hurts them.
 
New Arena

Several articles that came out December 2019, then covid hit.

Summary:
(1) men stay at Schott
(2) Rink for women games. Both practice at new rink
(3) 4000 capacity

But these are over 3 years ago. Who knows what will be decided?

https://www.athleticbusiness.com/fac...ockey-facility

https://www.buckeyesports.com/osu-wo...ity/?print=pdf


it’s under paywall but in April 2020 another article was published at bizjoirnals.com on this topic saying they were going ahead with a study. But it was greatly pared down from what you describe, as I remember it. Even the very diplomatic Alison Lukan tweeted at the time as much. It was very much a practice rink, which would be home to women’s games. The Ohio State leadership said in an article in Athletic basically the student athlete areas would be top notch but I got the sense they didn’t care about much beyond that. Which is a shame for fans, and by extension the student athletes. So this is where Muzerall is going to have to really advocate for her program, unless the mentality has changed.
 
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